* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING [I. PUBLIC MEETINGS STATEMENT ] TO CALL THE CALL TO ORDER OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP COUNCIL, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026. THIS MEETING IS CALLED IN PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS LAW. THIS MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2026, WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE ON THE BOLTON BOARD IN THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING ON AUGUST 12TH, 2026. IN ADDITION, A COPY OF THIS NOTICE IS AND HAS BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND IS ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE MUNICIPAL CLERK. PLEASE RISE FOR THE FLAG SALUTE. I PLEDGE ALL TO THE FILE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND SHOULD THE REPUBLIC FOR IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THE INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR OVERALL. HEY, UH, MS. WICKER WILCO, PLEASE. MS. SAN HERE. MR. COX. HERE. MS. MILL HERE. MAYOR ESE. HERE. MAYORS HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE [IV. Communications, Scheduling Matters, Council Agenda, Presentations and Any Amendments to the Agenda ] GONNA START OUR MEETING THIS EVENING WITH TWO VERY SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, UH, TWO PROCLAMATIONS, ONE FOR MR. TIMOTHY CURRY, AND ONE FOR COACH. UH, TIM SCHU. WE'LL START WITH MR. CURRY. OH, I'M SORRY. CURRY. SORRY. THAT'S ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. IT'S A LITTLE BETTER FOR THE CAMERA ON THIS SIDE. . OKAY. UM, IF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, MR. CURRY HAS BEEN A LONG TIME, UM, METFORD EMPLOYEE. HE'S, UM, ONE OF THE STAPLES OF OUR DPW DEPARTMENT AND, UM, HE'S, HE'S ABOUT TO RETIRE. SO, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO HONOR HIM BY GIVING HIM A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING. UM, THIS PROCLAMATION IS HONOR HONORING TIMOTHY CURRY UPON HIS RETIREMENT, WHEREAS TIMOTHY CURRY BEGAN HIS DISTINGUISHED CAREER WITH THE METFORD TOWNSHIP DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 1986, AND WILL RETIRE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, FOLLOWING MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE. AND WHEREAS THROUGH HIS CAREER, TIM SERVED AS THE, AS A DRIVER WITHIN BOTH THE SANITATION DIVISION AND THE RHODES DIVISION, PERFORMING HIS DUTIES WITH PROFESSIONALISM, DEPENDABILITY, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. AND WHEREAS TIM PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN THE TOWNSHIP'S BRUSH AND LEAF COLLECTION PROGRAMS, HELPING ENSURE THAT THE ESSENTIAL SERVICES WERE PROVIDED SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS DURING HIS COUNTLESS WINTER STORMS AND SEVERE WINTER WEATHER, TIM CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE TOWNSHIP SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL OPERATIONS, O OFTEN WORKING LONG AND DEMANDING HOURS TO MAINTAIN SAFE AND PASSABLE ROADWAYS FOR RESIDENTS, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, AND TRAVELING PUBLIC. AND WHEREAS TIM SERVED EXTENSIVELY TO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM MANAGEMENT ROAD REPAIR PROGRAM, AND UPKEEP OF TOWN PARKS, RECREATION FACILITIES, AND OTHER PUBLIC PROPERTIES. AND WHEREAS THROUGH HIS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, STRONG WORK ETHIC AND WILLINGNESS TO UNDERTAKE ANY ASSIGNMENT, TIM EARNED THE RESPECT AND APPRECIATION OF HIS COWORKERS, TOWNSHIP OFFICIALS, AND THE COMMUNITY FAITHFULLY SERVED. AND WHEREAS TIM TIM'S MORE THAN FOUR DECADES OF SERVICE REPRESENT AN EXTRAORDINARY COMMITMENT TO MEDFORD TOWNSHIP AND HAS CONTRIBUTED IN IMMEASURABLY TO THE SAFETY, APPEARANCE, AND QUALITY OF LIFE TO OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, FOUR, LET IT BE PROCLAIMED THAT THE MAYOR AND TOWNSHIP COUNCIL OF METFORD TOWNSHIP, ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP, HEREBY RECOGNIZED AND COMMEND TIMOTHY CURRY FOR HIS EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION OF MORE THAN FOUR 40 YEARS OF HONORABLE SERVICE TO THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFORD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION HONORING COACH TIMOTHY GUSU. MR. GUSU. ALRIGHT. UM, AS I'M SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE, , MR. GUS U HAS BEEN, UM, THE SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH FOR 40, 48 YEARS. 48 [00:05:01] YEARS. UM, I WAS ONE OF HIS, UM, PLAYERS AT ONE POINT IN TIME. I THINK MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE WERE AS WELL. UM, MR. GUS, WHO EXEMPLIFIES WHAT IT IS TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY, BOTH FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT AND AN, UM, ATH ATHLETIC STANDPOINT. UM, YOU'VE BEEN A PILLAR OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ALIVE. SO, UM, I, I'M HONORED TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION FOR YOU AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY REALLY VALUES WHAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TO US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THIS PROCLAMATION IS HONORING COACH TIM GUSU UPON HIS 300TH CAREER, WIN AS THE HEAD, AS THE HEAD FOOTBALL COACH OF SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL. WHEREAS COACH TIM GUSU HAS BEEN THE HEAD COACH FOR THE SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL RENEGADES FOOTBALL PROGRAM SINCE 1983, LEADING THE YOUTH OF MEDFORD IN HIS 44TH SEASON, IN HIS 44TH SEASON AS A HEAD COACH. WHEREAS COACH GUSHY LED THE SHAWNEE RENEGADES TO NUMEROUS CHAMPIONS CHAMPIONSHIPS IN 19 93, 19 95 OF BURLINGTON COUNTY'S LIBERTY DIVISION CHAMPIONS IN 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, OLYMPIC OLYMPIC CONFERENCE, AMERICAN DIVISION CHAMPIONS IN 2008, OLYMPIC CONFERENCE, LIBERTY DIVISION CHAMPIONS, 20 10, 20 12, 20 13. THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS IN HERE. UH, WEST JERSEY FOOTBALL LEAGUE, PATRIOT DIVISION CHAMPIONS 2014 AND 2016 WEST JERSEY FOOTBALL LEAGUE, AMERICAN DIVISION CHAMPIONS, AND 2025 WEST JERSEY FOOTBALL LEAGUE. AMERICAN DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIPS. VERY IMPRESSIVE. WHEREAS COACH GUSHY TOOK THE RENEGADES TO THE NEW JERSEY INTER COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION PLAYOFFS IN 92, 95, 96, 98, 99 2000. THOSE WERE GREAT YEARS BY THE WAY. 2001, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 12, 15, 16, 21, 22, AND 23. WHEREAS ON THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, KO CHU LED THE SHAWNEE RENEGADE TO A 35 TO 13 VICTORY OVER THE CHERRY HILL EAST HIGH SCHOOL. AND WHEREAS WITH THIS WIN OF NUMBER 300 FOR COACH GUSU BRINGING HIS 44 YEAR RECORD TO THREE HUNDRED, A HUNDRED FIFTY ONE AND SIX, WHEREAS DURING HIS YEARS OF COACHING, CO COACH GUSU HAS EARNED THE DEEP ADMIRATION AND RESPECT OF THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL MEMBERS, TOWNSHIP OFFICIALS, HIS FELLOW COACHES, PROFESSIONAL COLLEAGUES, FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND THE RESIDENTS HE SO ADMIRABLY SERVES. NOW FOUR, LET IT BE PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF ALL TOWNSHIP EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS, WISH TO EXPRESS THEIR GREAT APPRECIATION AND HEARTFELT GRATITUDE TO COACH TIM GUSHY FOR HIS INTEGRITY, PROFESSIONALISM, AND ENTHUSIASM HE BROUGHT TO MEDFORD TOWNSHIP THROUGH HIS OVER 44 YEARS OF COACHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. SAY A FEW WORDS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M HUMBLED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN MEDFORD RESIDENCE SINCE 1965, UH, WHEN MY, MY DAD, MOM FIRST MOVED TO MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. IT'S CHANGED A LOT, BUT, UM, BEEN A LOT OF GREAT MOMENTS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M BLESSED, UH, TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY, UH, AT SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL. CAME BACK AND TO TEACH IN 1977 AND, YOU KNOW, UH, KIKI CONSTANTINO'S WAS OUR SUPERINTENDENT BACK THEN. THEN IT WAS DR. DAN HICKS, THEN EMILY CAPELLA, DR. BIRNBAUM, AND NOW MATT WEBB. SO, AS SUPERINTENDENTS, UH, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF 'EM. AND, UH, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, HELPFUL ENOUGH. I SEE BOARD MEMBER DAVE STO BACK THERE. HE'S A BIG PART OF THIS AS WELL. UM, A NUMBER OF THE ATHLETES BACK THERE, A BUNCH OF COACHES HERE. MY WIFE SALLY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, UM, UH, A DREAM COME TRUE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WHERE YOU WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND, YOU KNOW, ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, WELL, WHAT'S THAT 300 MEAN? WELL, IT REALLY MEANS YOU STAYED A LONG TIME LONGEVITY. SO THE GOOD LORD'S BLESSED ME TO BE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO CONTINUE TO COACH AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THE MY SUPERIORS, UH, STILL ARE HAPPY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING OVER THERE. AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND THANK THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR, UH, TAKING THE TIME OUTTA YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE TO, UH, HONOR NOT JUST MYSELF, BUT SHAWNEE HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [00:10:15] CAN WE GET ONE WITH THE COACHES AND THE PLAYERS AS WELL? SURE. THANK YOU. WHATEVER. THANK, SO WHAT'S THAT? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR COMMUNICATIONS. DO ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COMMUNICATIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE. JUST WANNA THANK THE MBA FOR THE, UH, ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL YEAR AT THE OCTOBER FEST. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. THE WEATHER WAS BEAUTIFUL. I THANK YOU, MICHELLE. I KNOW, YEAH, I DO. PAT, I MIGHT NEED YOU FOR THIS ONE. UM, IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ITEMS. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 1 69, 1 71 73, AND 1 74 FROM THE BATCH AND TALK ABOUT THEM INDIVIDUALLY. CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THAT. UM, SO WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE, UH, CAN YOU JUST READ THOSE HOURS AGAIN ONE MORE TIME? 1 69, 1 71 73, AND 1 74. AND DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR. A. AYE. SO FOR PURPOSES OF THE AGENDA, THOSE RESOLUTIONS WILL BE ADDRESSED NOW AS NUMBER, UH, NINE ON THE AGENDA AFTER THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL ADDRESS, UM, ADDRESS THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU. AND AM I TO READ THEM INDIVIDUALLY? YES. YES. THOSE BE INDIVIDUALLY, INDIVIDUALLY WRITTEN. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. UM, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, SURE. UM, MIKE, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM YOU TODAY. WOULD YOU REITERATE IT FOR THE PUBLIC ON THE ORDINANCE? YES. YES. OKAY. SO WHEN WE GET TO ORDINANCE, UH, THIS WILL BE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 20 26, 16. YES. THIS WOULD BE CONSECRATING THE AMENDMENT TO OUR ARTICLE FIVE, WHICH IS OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THIS WOULD BE THE, THE CREATION, THE FINAL STEP TO CREATE THE NEW SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE ADOPTED, WE CAN THEN MOVE TO APPOINT APPLICANTS TO THAT BOARD FOR PURPOSES THAT THE BOARD WAS DESIGNED FOR. I THOUGHT THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW. OH YEAH. THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY BIG STEP TO HELPING THE PUBLIC AND THANK YOU. OH, NO. WAS THIS WAS YOUR IDEA? YEAH. , UH, GOSH. THE BEST. WELL, MR. MAYOR, I, I, I ALSO, I'M SORRY. YEAH, GO AHEAD. RIGHT IN. I'D JUST ALSO LIKE TO THANK ANGELA, UH, AND ALL THE TOWNSHIP STAFF WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE SEPTEMBER 11TH MEMORIAL, UH, EVENT, WHICH WAS A TREMENDOUS EVENT. AND I WOULD THANK EVERYBODY WHO, UH, WHO'S INVOLVED WITH THAT. AND I ECHO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN MILK SENTIMENTS ABOUT TO THE MBA, UH, FOR THE OCTOBERFEST AS WELL. YEAH. GREAT. UM, THAT WAS COMMUNICATION. SO NOW SCHEDULING ITEMS. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 6TH, 2026. TOWN HALL STYLE MEETING AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. RIGHT HERE AT SIX 30. WE ARE [V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ] GONNA MOVE TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. WE HAVE AUGUST 11TH, 2026. COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. AUGUST 11TH, 2026. EXECUTIVE SESSION MINUTES. [00:15:02] SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026. SPECIAL MEETING EXECUTIVE SESSION MINUTES AND SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026. EXECUTIVE SESSION MINUTES. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? NOPE. SEEING NONE. MOTION. NO PROOF. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. WE NOW HAVE DISCUSSION ITEMS [VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS ] AND THERE ARE NONE LISTED. MR. TAYLOR. OH, YEP. YES. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE OUR PLANNER HERE, UH, MR. TAYLOR. AND, UH, WE'VE ASKED HIM TO COME TO GIVE US A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF 39 ALLEN AVENUE. YES. OKAY. LIKE 30, 45 MINUTES OR MORE. . YEAH. DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING OUT. OBVIOUSLY THE SECOND READING IS LISTED ON THIS FOR OCTOBER 6TH. UH, BUT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT LOT 1, 7, 0, 5, LOT SIX AND SEVEN. IT IS THE FORMER PINELANDS LIBRARY. MM-HMM . AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ALLEN AVENUE AND MAIN STREET AS THE GOVERNING BODY MAY KNOW, UM, IN 2024. DO A TEST ONE TOO ON THAT. GETTING TEXT MESSAGES SAYING NO. CAN HEAR. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. WELL HOPEFULLY THAT'S, DOES IT AMPLIFY INSIDE OR IS IT JUST RECORDING? WE SHOULD HEAR IT. CAN TAP, TAP, TAP IT ONE MORE TIME. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. I WILL TRY TO PROJECT . UM, ON JUNE 5TH, 2024, TOWNSHIP COUNCIL ASKED THE PLANNING BOARD TO UNDERTAKE AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY MEETS THE STATUTORY CRITERIA TO BE CONSIDERED AN AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT WITHOUT CONDEMNATION. THAT WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING BOARD ON JULY 24TH, 2024. AND THEN ON AUGUST 20TH, 2024, THIS COUNCIL DESIGNATED THE PROPERTY AS AN AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT WITH WITHOUT CONDEMNATION. THAT DESIGNATION MEANS THAT THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE CONDEMNED. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS MUNICIPALLY OWNED, SO THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR CONDEMNATION UNDER THAT. BUT IT DID MEET THE STATUTORY CRITERIA. BY WAY OF A LITTLE FURTHER BACKGROUND. THE ENTIRE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR, UH, FOR THE LENGTH OF THE HBC OR THE HISTORIC VILLAGE COMMERCIAL, UH, AREA, WAS DESIGNATED AS AN AREA IN NEED OF REHABILITATION UNDER THE LOCAL REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING LAW. OR MARCH 5TH, 2013. THAT WAS DONE IN AN EFFORT TO, UH, ELIMINATE SOME VACANCIES AND INCENTIVIZE REINVESTMENT AND REVITALIZATION OF THE HISTORIC VILLAGE CORRIDOR. AS WE ALL KNOW, IN DECEMBER OF 2021, THE NEW TOWN HALL OPENED AND THE PINELANDS LIBRARY WAS RELOCATED TO THAT FACILITY BETWEEN 21, 2021 AND 24. THERE WERE MULTIPLE EFFORTS WHERE THE TOWN ISSUED, UH, RFPS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM PROSPECTIVE RE DEVELOPERS, UH, TO DEVELOP THAT. PROPERTY SIGNS WERE POSTED AT THE PROPERTY. IT WAS ALSO DONE, UH, ON THE TOWNSHIP'S WEBSITE. UH, FINALLY IN 2026, THE TOWN, UH, ENGAGED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH A PROSPECTIVE REDEVELOPER. UH, AND WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS, UH, THE RESULTS OF SEVERAL MONTHS OF MODIFYING THAT PROPOSAL. AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, UH, WHEN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED, IT WAS FOR 16 DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL SUITES ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS ABOVE. THERE WERE CONCERNS RELATIVE TO UNDERSTANDING BUS TRAFFIC, PARKING LIMITATIONS, WHICH WAS ALWAYS A CONCERN WITH THE LIBRARY. UM, THOSE CONCERNS WERE SHARED AS WELL. AND THROUGH A SERIES OF THOSE REDEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS, UH, WHAT WE HAVE IS A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WILL SET FORTH THE PRINCIPLE USES AND BE THE GUIDING PLANNING DOCUMENT TO ALLOW FOR THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES DESIGNED TO BE COMPLIMENTARY TO THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL VERNACULAR OF THE DOWNTOWN. SO WHAT THIS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES, IT SETS UP THAT ZONING TO MAKE THAT USE OF PERMITTED USE. 'CAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, OR I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS PROPERTY WAS LOCATED IN THE PPE ZONING DISTRICT. SO IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT INITIAL DESIGNATION THE WAY THE BALANCE OF MAIN STREET WAS, BECAUSE IT WAS MUNICIPALLY OWNED, AND THERE WAS NO CONTEMPLATION OF ANY CHANGES NECESSARY AT THAT TIME. SO THIS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, REZONES THE PROPERTY, IT CREATES THE ALLEN AVENUE REDEVELOPMENT AREA ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR, UH, AGAIN, THREE SINGLE FAMILY USES. THERE ARE ARCHITECTURE, DESIGN, LANDSCAPE, AND RELATED DESIGN STANDARDS THROUGH THAT ORDINANCE. UH, IT [00:20:01] WILL BE REFERRED TOMORROW NIGHT TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE MUNICIPAL LAND USE LAW, AND THEN BACK FOR, UH, SECOND HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION ON OCTOBER 6TH. ALL THIS DOES, THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE ANY CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE. THIS BASICALLY REZONES THE SITE. ANY LAND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONVEYANCE OF THE LAND, AND THEN IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH SUBDIVISION AND OR SITE PLAN APPROVAL THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD UNDER THE NORMAL COURSE OF ANY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, UH, WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP. WAS THAT FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES? THAT WAS GREAT. THAT WAS GREAT. ALRIGHT. YEAH. SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT SPEAKS THA AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THAT SPEAKS TO OUR INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE 26 20 26 18. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS. ALRIGHT, MR. TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE HAVE ANY RENDERINGS TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC FOR? UM, WE CAN. I DID BRING SOME AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO PUT THEM UP IF, IF SURE WOULD LIKE SHARE THOSE I BROUGHT. HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS DOES CHILD HOUSE HAVE? SO THE FINAL DESIGN, UH, THEY WILL, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WILL, IT IS NOTED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW JERSEY RESIDENTIAL SITE IMPROVEMENT STANDARDS. SO DEPENDING ON THE FINAL NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE JUST LIKE ANY SINGLE FAMILY LOT WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. WE DO THIS TONIGHT. I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU CARRIED THAT. SUPPOSE WE DIDN'T ASK . IT SHOULD BE EXCITING. SO THIS FIRST WORD THAT I HAVE IS, I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN. CAN YOU SEE THAT? NO. OKAY. SORRY. YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT COME THIS? OH. OH WOW. THAT LOOKS GREAT. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE A GAME SHOW HOST NOW, . AND THEN THE DOOR TO THE LEFT. UH, SO THIS, BY WAY OF REFERENCE, THIS IS ALAN AVENUE ON THE BOTTOM. THIS IS, UH, SOUTH MAIN STREET ON THE RIGHT SIDE. AND THERE ARE THREE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, UH, CONSTRUCTED. WE PURPOSELY TRIED TO MOVE THE DRIVEWAYS FURTHER AWAY FROM MAIN STREET TO MINIMIZE TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS AND BACK OUT MOVEMENTS. IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION HERE, ALL THE PROPERTIES WILL HAVE INTERNAL GARAGES. UH, A LOT OF ATTENTION WAS PAID TO THE MAIN STREET FACADE, THE ADDITION OF PORCHES, AND ALSO THE ALLEN AVENUE FACADES TO HAVE THAT FIT WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF, UH, THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE ALREADY SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE AND IN THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE TOWNSHIP. WE WORK QUITE A BIT WITH THE PROSPECTIVE RE DEVELOPERS, UH, ARCHITECT AND DESIGN TEAM TO COME UP WITH A PALLET OF MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURAL FORMS THAT WOULD BE COMPLIMENTARY. SO, ON THE TOP LEFT HERE, YOU CAN SEE AN ILLUSTRATION OF FULL LENGTH PORCH WITH STAIR ACCESS, GABLES SHUTTERS, DIVIDED LIGHT WINDOWS. UH, THIS IS THE MAIN STREET FACADE. AND THEN THERE ARE COMPLIMENTARY FACADES IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COLORS. ON THE A ALLEN AVENUE FACADES, AGAIN, TRYING TO HAVE A VERY STRONG TWO-SIDED ARCHITECTURE, PARTICULARLY AT THAT, UH, INTERSECTION THAT IS SORT OF A GATEWAY AS YOU COME ACROSS THE BRIDGE AND WITH THE PARK THERE, THIS UNIT WILL BE VERY VISIBLE AND BECOMES PART OF THAT GATEWAY. AS WE ALL KNOW, A LOT OF THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS TO THIS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST ARE LOCATED IN THE GMS, THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT SOUTH ZONING DISTRICT, AND A LOT OF THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MAIN STREET. SO, REALLY FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT RESIDENTIAL FEEL AND THE CHARACTER IN THAT AREA AND TO REALLY ESTABLISH, UH, AN ARCHITECTURE PIECE THAT WOULD BE THAT SORT OF SOUTHERN GATEWAY INTO THE HISTORIC VILLAGE. NICE. YEAH, IT'S VERY NICE. THANK YOU. AND THESE ARE ALL, AND THESE ARE ALL SET FORTH IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS ESSENTIALLY REQUIRED ELEVATIONS. AND ANY DEVIATIONS FROM THIS WOULD NEED TO BE RE REVIEWED BY THE GOVERNING BODY AS THE REDEVELOPMENT ENTITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL CONSISTENCY WITH THE IMAGES IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS WORK. GREAT JOB. ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A [00:25:01] GREAT QUESTION. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. TAYLOR. UM, NOW WE'LL [VII. MANAGER’S REPORT] MOVE TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT. I APOLOGIZE MR. MAYOR. I, THAT WAS THE MANAGER'S REPORT. . THAT'S ALRIGHT. COUNSEL, DISCUSS. YEAH. YEAH. MR. TAYLOR ALREADY, UH, DESIGN AND THE PLAN. YEAH. SO, UH, I'LL START WITH, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF, UH, DYLAN WENER, A VOLUNTEER JUNIOR FIREFIGHTER STATION 2 5 2 2 5 8. SO FOR COUNSEL'S APPROVAL, UM, YEAH, BEFORE WE, I JUST, UH, I GUESS A PLUG HERE. UM, MR. WENER IS NOT ONLY THE SON OF A FIREFIGHTER. YES. UM, BUT A LIFELONG RESIDENCE OF MEDFORD. AND, UM, I JUST, AGAIN, FIND IT HUMBLING AND FASCINATING THAT THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN, UH, CHOOSE TO USE THEIR FREE TIME TO VOLUNTEER TO PROTECT US. SO IF YOU COULD THANK THE WESTERN FAMILY ON BEHALF OF US, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, WE NEED AN ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. UM, JUST A REMINDER, COUNSEL AND, AND, UH, THE RESIDENTS MEMBER POLICE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR REACCREDITATION WITH THE NEW JERSEY ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE. UM, THEY HAD THEIR ONSITE EVALUATION YESTERDAY. I BELIEVE. THERE'S, UM, LIKE A SURVEY GOING AROUND. IT'S HANGING UP IN THE PUBLIC BUILDING. SO, UM, IF THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SUBMIT RESPONSES, SO THIS WILL BE THEIR FIFTH REACCREDITATION, WHICH IS FANTASTIC, UM, FOR THE TOWN. UH, ALSO WANTED TO UPDATE COUNCIL THAT WE RECENTLY INSTALLED NEW GPS UNITS IN ALL TOWNSHIP VEHICLES ASSIGNED TO TOWN HALL. AND ALL EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE A FUEL LOT VIA TOP FORM. NOW. UM, BOTH POLICE AND FIRE ALREADY HAD TRACKING SYSTEMS IN PLACE, SO THIS IS JUST EXPANDING UPON, UH, WHAT WE ALREADY HAD PLACE. ALRIGHT. AND THEN, UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD WAS, UH, YOU WILL HAVE A DRAFT, UH, SHARED SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH BURLINGTON COUNTY, HOPEFULLY FOR THE NEXT MEETING. UH, FOR THE SPEED TABLES, I'LL CALL BOTH OF THEM. PERFECT. GREAT. GREAT. UM, I'LL, I'LL ACTUALLY ASK BEFORE WE GO. SURE. UM, THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LAKE PINE RESIDENTS, DO WE WANT TO, UH, YES. OKAY. WE DID REACH OUT TO THE LAKE PINE HUNTERS, UH, COUNTY CLUB. UM, THEY CIRCULATED THE LOCATIONS AMONGST THE RESIDENTS OF LAKE PINE, AND THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE LOCATIONS IDENTIFIED BY OUR TOWNSHIP ENGINEER AND BY, UH, BURNS COUNTY HIGHWAY. GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. UH, NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. [VIII. PUBLIC COMMENTS] UM, AS ALWAYS, WE'D ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENT TO FIVE MINUTES. WE WILL GIVE YOU YOUR FIVE MINUTES. WE WILL THEN RESPOND, UM, FOLLOWING YOUR FIVE MINUTES, I'LL ASK CHIEF, WE'LL JUST NEED A SECOND. WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE LIVE STREAM IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL. YEP. WE ARE GOOD TO GO. I'LL ASK CHIEF TO HOLD THE TIME FOR US WITH A ONE MINUTE WARNING. YEP. OKAY. I SEE MR. SHANIA'S HAND RAISED, MAYOR, COUNSEL. MY, YOU KNOW, MY NAME, I CAN'T TALK, YOU KNOW, IT'S PAUL CHENEY. I LIVE OVER MY LAUREL. UM, I WANT TO BE HERE LAST MONTH, BUT I WAS ILL, COULDN'T MAKE IT. UM, AND THE PURPOSE, THE REASON I WANT TO BE HERE WAS I'M A, I'M PART OF A GROUP OF VETERANS THAT MEET AT THE FARMSTEAD EVERY MONTH. AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF. WE STARTED OUT WITH MAYBE SIX, SEVEN VETS AND BOBBY MYERS, MR. MYERS, UH, ALSO PROVIDE COFFEE, DONUTS, BAGELS. UM, MR. MYERS, BY THE WAY, RECENTLY, ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS AGO, CHANGED THAT. NOW HE ACTUALLY PROVIDES A FULL-BLOWN BREAKFAST BUFFET, AND I MEAN, A FULL-BLOWN BREAKFAST BUFFET. AND OUR GROUP HAS GROWN TO ABOUT MAYBE 45 NOW. UM, BUT I WANT TO COME IN AND EVERY MONTH WE ASK SOME SORT OF A SPEAKER, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND GIVE SOME KIND OF A PRESENTATION. LAST MONTH WE ASKED MISS MR. MAYOR, UM, AND AT NO TIME WAS HE GIVEN A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE ASKED. HE WASN'T GIVEN A LIST OF TOPICS, IT WAS OFF THE CUFF, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO HE CAME. AND ALSO, EVEN WHEN HE DOESN'T SPEAK TO US, HE'S THERE, HE'S BEEN THERE PROBABLY HALF DOZEN TIMES JUST HONORING THE VETERANS. AND AS A VETERAN, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, MY HONOR. THANK YOU. BUT, UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, HE CAME IN AND HE STOOD UP. AND THE FIRST QUESTION, AND THE MEMBERS OF OUR GROUP COME FROM MEDFORD EVE SHAM, MOUNT LAUREL. UM, ALL OVER, ABOUT 20 TO 30% OF THE, OF THE VETERANS ARE FROM HERE. YOU KNOW, IN TOWN TAXPAYERS, ONE PERSON [00:30:01] COMES FROM OVER IN VIOLIN EVERY, EVERY MONTH. BUT THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, CAME IN AND A VETERAN STOOD UP A MEDFORD, UH, LET'S CALL IT TAXPAYER, STOOD UP AND ASKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I, FOR ONE, SAT THERE AND I SAID, OH, S**T. YOU KNOW, BUT THE MAYOR THEN SPENT THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF, I DON'T WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, AN HOUR AND A HALF EXPLAINING IN JUST SIMPLE ENGLISH, SIMPLE TERMS, NO LEGAL JUMBLES, JUST SIMPLE TERMS, WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AND WHAT EFFECT IT'S HAVING ON EVERY TOWN. AND I'M NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR THE GROUP, BUT I THINK WE ALL LEFT THERE WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS. THERE'S A, THERE'S A VIDEO ON IT AND I'LL REPOST IT, BUT I THINK THE CITIZENS SHOULD, SHOULD WATCH IT. HE GAVE ONE OF THE BEST EXPLANATIONS OF WHAT EFFECT AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS AND WILL HAVE ON US ALL. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BETH. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, MR. SCHNEER, MAY I ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE? SURE. CAN. UM, CAN YOU EX DESCRIBE TO US THE LAST PRESENTATION? THE, IT'S THE, I KNOW I'M BLANKING ON THE NAME. FLIGHT HONOR FLIGHT. OH, YES, YES. HONOR FLIGHT IS A GROUP, IT'S A NATIONWIDE GROUP WITH CHAPTERS AT EVERY STATE. SOME OF THE LARGER STATES, TEXAS, CALIFORNIA, HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, LET'S CALL IT CHAPTERS. THOSE STATES, THEY ACTUALLY FLY VETERANS IN TO WASHINGTON. THEY'LL PUT 'EM UP, YOU KNOW, IN A HOTEL. UM, AND THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN OF, OF OUR GROUP HAVE BEEN OUT ON THIS HONOR FLIGHT. AND WHAT THIS GROUP DOES IS THEY PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION, FOOD, EVERYTHING FOR VETERANS, YOU KNOW, TO GO DOWN TO WASHINGTON AS A VIETNAM VET, I COULD NEVER, AND I WORKED IN WASHINGTON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE PROBABLY EVERY OTHER WEEK, PENTAGON AND SO FORTH. BUT I COULD NEVER BRING, YOU KNOW, MYSELF TO STOP BY, YOU KNOW, SEE THE VIETNAM WALL. IT WAS JUST MY SORT OF MENTAL BLOCK. BUT THIS TRIP FORCED ME TO, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE. IT WAS PART OF THE TOUR THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND WE WENT, THE GROUP THAT I WENT WITH WAS DOING THE ACTUAL SHUTDOWN. THE EMPLOYEES THAT USUALLY, MAN ALL THESE DIFFERENT SITES, CAME IN ON THEIR OWN TIME, PROVIDED US WITH THE SAME SERVICES THAT THEY, ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS DO. BUT THE HONOR ON A FLIGHT, UM, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT, THEY USUALLY TAKE ABOUT A HUNDRED, MAYBE 150 VETS DOWN THERE. AND WE JUST VISIT ALL THE SITES. UM, I CAN'T SAY A WHOLE LOT. 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME PARTS OF THIS TRIP THAT A KIND OF SECRET, 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA SPOIL IT FOR YOU, THE FUTURE VETS THAT ARE GOING. BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY ANY VETERAN AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE, UH, WHATEVER IT'S AN, AN, ANY VETERAN CAN SIGN UP FOR IT. AND IT'S FREE. SO IF YOU HAVE RELATIVES OR FRIENDS THAT ARE VETERANS, UM, I'LL, I THINK YOU HAVE A FORM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T, I'LL SEND YOU A FORM. YES, SIR. YOU CAN HAND THEM UP. BUT I URGE EVERY VETERAN REALLY TO GO FOR THOSE VIETNAM VETS THAT COULD NEVER GO. LIKE, I COULDN'T GO WHEN I WENT, WHEN I WENT UP TO THE WALL. UM, I SAW SOME NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT I KNEW THAT DIED AND I CRUMBLED. BUT IT DID ME A LOT OF GOOD, IT GOT A LOT OF CRAP OUT OF MY MIND, YOU KNOW, AND I FEEL REALLY MUCH BETTER FOR IT. BUT I URGE EVERY VETERAN YOU GOTTA GO. AND IT'S FREE. GREAT TIME, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR ANYBODY WHO DOES HAVE A VET, YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE SOMEBODY WITH YOU. MY FATHER AND SON WENT, UM, MY FATHER CAME BACK FALLING, FEELING HONORED. AND THAT'S A BIG SENTENCE CONSIDERING HOW MANY YEARS HE SERVED. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE MR. KLEIN'S HAND UP FIRST AND THEN GO TO YOU NEXT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I'M JUST GOING IN ORDER OF HANDS. OKAY. HEY GUYS. ALL RIGHT. AND I HATE, I'M EVEN HERE TONIGHT IF I'M BEING HONEST. BUT, UM, FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, UH, NOT YOU GUYS, BUT I'M GONNA SAY YOU GUYS COUNSEL, UH, PASSED A, A TREE ORDINANCE. AND AT THE TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS OVERBEARING. AND ME AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE FOUGHT IT. AND THE REASON WE FOUGHT IT IS 'CAUSE I KNEW A TIME LIKE TODAY WAS GONNA COME. AND, AND HERE WE ARE. UH, I HAVE A NUMBER OF COMPLETELY DEAD TREES IN MY BACKYARD. AND WHEN I SAY DEAD, I MEAN, IF I PUSH IT HARD ENOUGH, IT'S GONNA FALL OVER. THERE'S, UH, FUNGUS, THERE'S MUSHROOMS GROWING ON IT. THERE'S NO LEAVES, THERE'S NO BRANCHES. THINGS ARE FALLING OFF OF IT. [00:35:01] AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF WHO I AM. AND PEOPLE LOOK AT ME, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. SO I READ THIS TREE ORDINANCE, THE UPDATED 1 20 24 DASH FOUR A BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS A HUNDRED TIMES. AND IT DEFINES A HAZARD TREE. AND IT SAYS, A HAZARD TREE MEANS ITS TREE OR LIMBS THEREOF THAT MEET ONE OR MORE OF THE CRITERIA BELOW. NUMBER ONE IS, HAS AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE, AND NUMBER TWO IS DEAD OR DYING. SO ALL OF THE TREES THAT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAZARD TREES. UH, THE NEXT SECTION 1 1 23 4 SAYS, HAZARD TREES AS DEFINED IN 1 23, 2 ABOVE MAY BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY. BUT THEN IT GOES AND SAYS, HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL UPON REQUEST OF THE ZONING OFFICIAL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION CONFIRMING THE CONDITIONS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE TREES AND THE PROPERTY, AND A CERTIFICATION BY A DULY LICENSED L-T-C-O-L-T-E OR FROM AN ISIS CERTIFIED ARBORIST. SO I HAD A A, A TREE COMPANY COME OUT. YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE, THEY'RE YOUR FAVORITE PEOPLE. I, I HAD CORNERSTONE COME OUT GONNA BE MY CAR EVERYONE'S FAVORITE PEOPLE. AND THEY GOT AN ESTIMATE. AND IT SAYS RIGHT ON, UH, THE ESTIMATE REMOVAL OF MULTIS STEM, DEAD CHESTNUT OAK WITH BACTERIAL LEAF SCORCH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT KILLED THE TREES THAT ARE DEAD ON THE BOTTOM OF IT. IT HAS THEIR LICENSE NUMBER AND IT HAS THEIR LTCO LICENSE NUMBER AS WELL. SO I EMAILED ANN THIS MORNING, UM, 'CAUSE I SAW THE WEATHER COMING UP THIS WEEK. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS NORTH EASTER WITH 40, 50 MILE AN HOUR WINDS. AND I DON'T WANT THESE TREES FALLING OVER. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, I I DIDN'T DO THAT ASKING FOR PERMISSION. I, I DID IT AS A COURTESY BECAUSE IT SAYS IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT A UPON REQUEST OF THE OFFICIAL, YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THIS STUFF. SO I PROVIDED ALL TO HER PICTURES, THE ESTIMATE, THEIR LICENSE INFORMATION, ALL THAT STUFF. SHE COMES BACK THIS MORNING, THIS AFTERNOON, I'M SORRY, 1:45 PM A TREE REMOVAL APPLICATION IS REQUIRED FOR ALL TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED. I HAVE ATTACHED THE APPLICATION AND THE ORDINANCES FOR TREE REMOVAL. HAZARD TREES WILL REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION CONFIRMING SAID, CONDITIONS, PHOTOS, CERTIFICATION, THAT, THAT THE, AND IT SAYS FROM A DULY LICENSED L-T-C-E-L-T-E OR FROM AN ISIS CERTIFIED ARBORIST, THAT LIST OF PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS AN LTCO, WHICH IS WHAT CORNERSTONE IS. SO WHAT I'M BEING TOLD I NEED TO PROVIDE IS NOT WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. AND I JUST WANNA REMOVE DEAD TREES BEFORE THEY FALL MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE. YEAH. SO I'M, I'M HERE BECAUSE IS THE ORDINANCE RIGHT? IS THE ZONING OFFICER, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO HERE? BECAUSE, SORRY, YOU LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GONNA TALK, I GONNA COMMENT ON PERSONAL. SORRY. HELLO. SO THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO SAY, AND I, IF I'M YELLING, I'M JUST NO TO YELL ONLY, ONLY THING I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA COMMENT ON PERSONNEL AND ANY PERSONNEL DECISION. HOWEVER, THE MANAGER MANAGER'S OFFICE IS PRESENT, AND I'M CERTAIN THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO WAS AN APPLICATION FORMALLY FILED OR WAS THE INFORMATION NO, NO, NO, BECAUSE I'M NOT FILING AN APPLICATION. OKAY. I'M TELLING YOU, I'M CUTTING THE TREES DOWN. OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND. SO YOUR QUESTION REALLY IS JUST FOCUSED IN ON, IS THAT LETTER THAT YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT, I MEAN, IT HAS EVERYTHING THAT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE ORDINANCE. YOU STILL NEED TO SUBMIT THE TREE REMOVAL APPLICATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE. NO, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. DOESN'T SAY THAT. I'LL SHOW YOU THE ORDINANCE. IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S, IT, IT SAYS HAZARD TREES AS DEFINED IN 1 23, 2 ABOVE MAY BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY. STORM WATER, IT'S, HERE'S YOUR ORDINANCE. YEAH. I, I BELIEVE MR. KLEINMAN'S ASSESSMENT, AND I'M NOT HERE TO PASS JUDGMENT ON THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, JUST BUT THAT YOU'RE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, YOU'RE ABLE TO REMOVE THE TREE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION. RIGHT. WHICH I SAID IF YOU WANNA REMOVE A LIVE TREE OR A NON-HAZARDOUS TREE, RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE THE APPLICATION PROCESS COMES INTO PLAY. THAT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND THESE, AND AGAIN, AS MR. VARGAS STATED, WE'RE NOT GOING TO YEAH, NO, THAT'S FINE. YEAH. BUT WE DEFINITELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. YEAH. HOW MANY TREES ARE YOU ALLOWED WITHOUT ANY DOCUMENTATION YOU WANT. THE DEAD TREES DON'T COUNT. COUNT DEAD. THEY'RE DEAD, DEAD TREES DON'T COUNT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY'RE DEAD. YEAH. I, I, I KNOW THIS ORDINANCE LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. I'M JUST, I'M TELLING YOU, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE READ IT A HUNDRED TIMES IN THE LAST 48 HOURS. I, I, I KNOW I'M RIGHT. SO I'M JUST, I'M, I'M MAKING A STATEMENT THAT I'M CUTTING THESE DEAD TREES DOWN BEFORE THEY, THEY KILL SOMEBODY, INCLUDING MY NEIGHBOR OR PUNCH A HOLE IN MY POOL AGAIN, LIKE HAPPENED 12 YEARS AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF ZONING WANTS TO COME AFTER ME FOR IT, I, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN BE LIKE EARL AND WE CAN GO HAVE [00:40:01] A CONVERSATION AND NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. I'M JUST LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW. I WAS GONNA SAY, I CAN FOLLOW UP TOMORROW MORNING WITH MR. KLEIMAN AND LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEN GET HIM AN ANSWER. SO HE HAS YES. FIRST THING IN THE MORNING TOMORROW. I, I'D APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANT THESE TREES GONE. YEAH. NO, ABSOLUTELY. SO MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. YEP. YEAH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK SIR. YES. CHRISTINE VALENTINE. UM, I'M STILL CONCERNED OF THIS WHOLE ISSUE WITH THE MYAA AND IN THE LAST PINE BARONS TRIBUNE, IT NOTED THAT MS. VORHEES AND MR. COX, WERE YOU THE ONES THAT NEGOTIATED OR DECIDED ON THE MYAA FOR THE DONATION OF THE MONEY FROM THE DEVELOPER HORTON? NO, HE CAME TO US. THEY CAME TO US. WE, WE NEGOTIATED THAT THAT AMOUNT BE REDUCED SO THAT OTHER, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY RECEIVED FUNDING AND GO TO A SCHOLARSHIP. YES. OKAY. I WANT TO TRY TO, UH, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT MR. DAMER SAID WERE, WERE NOT ACCURATE. UM, ACCORDING TO THE 2025, UM, US CENSUS, MEDFORD HAS A POPULATION OF 25,612 OF THAT, MA'AM, I'M SO SORRY. 5,000. WOULD YOU BRING THAT SPEAKER CLOSER? 5,300. I'M DEAF. SO ANYWAYS, I'M WITH YOU. 5,378. WERE CHILDREN. WELL, WE KNOW CHILDREN ARE 18 AND UNDER, AND WE KNOW KIDS AT SHAWNEE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN MYAA. SO YOU TAKE THAT MINUS, MINUS THAT OUT. SO ALL THE 7,000 KIDS IN MYAA, PERHAPS HALF OF THEM ARE MEDFORD. NOW, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINKING ABOUT PROVIDING MYI DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS TOWNSHIP AND GIVING UP THE FIELDS, GIVING UP, UH, THE CLEANING OF THE FIELDS AND MAINTAINING OF THE FIELDS TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. I'M NOT A, AND NOW WHEN YOU, WHEN I LOOK AT THE POPULATION, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, OVER HALF OF THOSE KIDS AREN'T MET FOR RESIDENTS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BENEFIT FROM THE MONEY FROM THE DEVELOPER. HOW IS THIS FAIR? HOW IS THIS FAIR? NOBODY CAN ANSWER. I WASN'T SURE WHO YOU WERE ASKING OR IF WE COULD TAKE YOUR TIME AT THE MOMENT. WE DON'T WANNA TAKE YOUR TIME. WE, WE HEARD THE QUESTION THOUGH. OKAY. SO JUST GO ON. YES, I'M WRITING IT DOWN AND WE'LL ANSWER WHEN YOU'RE DONE. I MEAN, IT, IT MAKE, IT MAKES NO SENSE. I WANTED TO KNOW ALSO, ARE THE, THE DRAWINGS FOR, UM, ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS, ARE THEY ALL SET IN STONE NOW AS FAR AS THE, FOR ALL THE LOW INCOME? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DRAWINGS? THE, THE, ALL THESE UNIT DESIGNS OR HORTON THINGS? I MEAN, THEY, THEY ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE REDEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT GUIDELINES. SO THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS. SO ON THIS ONE PLAN, UM, STONEBRIDGE, FIRST OFF, 300 UNITS AND ONLY 12 ARE AFFORDABLE. I DON'T GET THE MATH IN THAT ONE AT ALL. WHY TAKE ALL THAT GROUND FOR ONLY 12 UNITS AND NOW WE HAVE TO POPULATE ALL THE, OR EDUCATE ALL THOSE CHILDREN. THE SECOND THING IS INGRESS AND EGRESS ARE OFF OF CHURCH ROAD. THAT'S, THAT'S A CATASTROPHE WAITING HAPPEN. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED IT TO COME OFF A FOSTER TOWN ROAD THAN FEED ONTO CHURCH ROAD. CHURCH ROAD ALWAYS HAS, IT'S, IT'S A FREEWAY THERE NOW. I MEAN, OUR POLICE TRY TO MONITOR IT, BUT I DON'T VERY SOLEMN SEE 'EM THERE. SO THAT'S MY CONCERNS. I MEAN, I HAVE MANY CONCERNS AND I APPRECIATE MR NO GIVING ME ADULT SIZED DRAWINGS INSTEAD OF THOSE LITTLE, LITTLE FRAME ONES THAT THEY HAVE IN THE, IT'S NOT FUNNY. PEOPLE COULD SEE IT. I CAN'T SEE HALF OF THEM EITHER. I AM LIKING BACK. IT'S, IT'S A SHAME. IT'S REALLY A SHAME. IT'S TOWNSHIP'S AN EMBARRASSMENT. DONE. DONE. OKAY. SO, UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT IT AT A PDF AND ZOOM IN MYSELF. SO, UM, YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS, HOW IS IT FAIR THAT MYAA IS RECEIVING A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR RECREATION? SO, RAY, AND I'LL HAPPILY ANSWER THAT. UM, WE DID NOT TELL DR HORTON WHAT THEY HAD TO GIVE TO THIS WAS WHAT THEY OFFERED TO US. SO WHEN THEY OFFERED IT, THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE. AND THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE THIS POT RAY. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, AT LEAST FOR ME, I GREW UP AS A LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLD. YOU CAN GIVE ALL YOU WANT TO NYAA, BUT MY MOM COULDN'T AFFORD TO PUT US IN SPORTS. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM, IT'S USELESS MONEY. AND IF THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT [00:45:01] THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE, TO HELP OUT THOSE WHO ARE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE SCHOLARSHIP. AND THEN RAY THANKFULLY REALIZED THAT IT SHOULD ALSO GO TO OTHER SPORTS AS WELL. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT SOME MORE. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SOME OF IT SHOULD BE GRANT MONEY SO THAT EVERYONE ELSE COULD USE IT. SO, SURE, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE SAID DR HORTON GIVE US A MILLION BUCKS OR A GAZILLION BUCKS FOR THE SCHOOLS, BUT WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T GIVE TO US. THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. THE BEST WE COULD DO WAS MAKE IT SO IT WAS BETTER FOR MYA AND SPREAD OUT MORE. WHICH IS WHY AFTER MARYANNE, HOLLOWAY MENTIONED THAT ONLY CERTAIN SPORTS WERE NOTED, WE WENT BACK TO DR. HORTON AND SAID, YOU ONLY MENTIONED SO MANY SPORTS. AND THEY WERE WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT AND DO ANOTHER GRANT SO THAT ALL SPORTS WOULD BE COVERED. BUT THAT'S, IF THEY WANNA GIVE IT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. DON'T HORTON'S GONNA RUIN OUR TOWN AND BECAUSE THEY ONLY WANT TO GIVE TO THIS ORGANIZATION. OH, THAT'S OKAY. BUT AS A TAXPAYER, WE'RE GONNA BE GREATLY IMPACTED. MM-HMM . AND, AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS GONNA BE THE, THE MEDFORD AS IT IS, IS NOT GONNA EXIST. IT'S GONNA BE WE JUST, YOU'RE BROKE NOW. YOU'RE BROKE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE BROKE. I MEAN, WE DON'T NEED THAT NEW TOWNSHIP BUILDING. THERE'S HARDLY ANY PEOPLE IN THERE FROM MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. HOW MUCH DID YOU DECIDE, HOW MUCH WAS THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING SOLD FOR TO MAGNIFY BREWERY? NOT THAT MUCH. THE SAME THING WITH THE LIBRARY. NOT THAT MUCH. CAN I ASK QUESTION, MIKE, DID YOU TALK HANDLE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS? SAY AGAIN? THE TALK THAT THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, OH YEAH. MAYBE WE SHOULD, IS IT UP ON THE WEBSITE? UM, MR. CHENIER, WE WILL ASK MR. CHENIER TO, TO SEND US THE TALK. I MEAN, I, YEAH, I HOPE IT COVERED THE, THE VIDEO THAT YOU TOOK OF ME AT THE VETERAN'S BREAKFAST. IT, IT DOES COVER A GOOD POINT. SOME OF THESE PARTS I WOULD BE HERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR MANAGEMENT STAFF HAS BROUGHT THIS TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. WE'RE HERE, WE'RE NOT JUST HERE TUESDAY NIGHTS AT SIX 30 FOR MEETINGS. WE'RE AVAILABLE PRETTY MUCH ANY TIME. SO THESE QUE THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU ALL THE ANSWERS TO THAT. I'M WRITTEN TO YOU. I KNOW. AND, AND I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE. WE'RE RESPONDING TO YOU RIGHT NOW. NO, THIS IS MONTHS AGO. MONTHS AGO. SO, OKAY, GO AHEAD. WHAT ARE YOU YOU SAYING OKAY ABOUT THAT'S NOT OKAY. I, I BELIEVE THE TIMING OF THAT CONVERSATION WA WASN'T INAPPROPRIATE. BUT THAT'S OKAY. IT WAS NOT INAPPROPRIATE. IT'S THE SAME THING. BASICALLY, I'M SAYING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU ARE RUINING THE TOWNSHIP. I'M, WHY IS IT DEVELOPER TELLING YOU WHAT HE WANTS TO DO? I'M GONNA USE A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE HERE AND I'M GONNA JUST ASK YOU TO NOT BRING UP THAT MEETING. IT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AT ANY TIME. THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT TIME. AND THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT. MR. UMBER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT. UH, SO I, I THINK WE HAVE TO CORRECT THE RECORD. UM, UH, MS. VALENTINE REPORTED THAT STONEBRIDGE, WHICH IS, UH, COMMONLY REFERRED AS TRAUMA FOR STONEBRIDGE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. SHE NOTED THAT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ONLY HAVE 12 AFFORDABLE UNITS. THAT IS NOT CORRECT. UH, THERE ARE 36 AGE RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE TWIN UNITS. THERE ARE 12 AFFORDABLE STACK TOWNHOUSE UNITS. THERE ARE UP TO 113 MARKET RATE TOWNHOUSE UNITS AND UP TO 139 MARKET RATE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR A TOTAL OF 300. UM, SHE DID STATE 300 NUMBER, BUT THE TOTAL OF THE AFFORDABLE TO THAT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT IS 36 PLUS 12, WHICH WAS FOUR EIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, AND FOR THE REFERENCE THAT THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE IN NYA THAT ARE NOT TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD'VE TO INVESTIGATE TO MYA TO SEE, UM, IF, IF THAT IS A, A FACTUAL ITEM, UM, THAT WE WOULD THEN NEED TO, WE DON'T HAVE 7,000 KIDS. UM, THE ITEM WITH REGARDS TO SEATING AUTHORITY OVER TO THE MYA, I BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED WHEN THE RECREATIONAL DEPARTMENT WAS DISBANDED WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP. UM, DUE TO THE TAX BUDGET CONSTRAINTS NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD, UH, THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS THAT IT WAS AT, AT THAT TIME, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE, UM, HAVE NOT SEEN THE 2% CAP UP INSIDE THE CAP ITEMS. UM, OBVIOUSLY I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED, BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY HISTORICAL REVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH OUR FINANCES VERSUS WHERE WE HAVE COME FROM AND HOW THIS NOW HAS HAPPENED TWICE. AND YEAH, ALMOST TWO DECADES, VERY SIMILAR FROM A, THAT WAS RECREATION BACK AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHEN EVERYTHING NEEDED TO BE DISBANDED. TRASH BECAME PRIVATIZED, PRIVATIZED, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS BASICALLY CUT IN HALF. THERE WAS MANY, [00:50:01] UH, ACTIV, UH, CELEBRATIONS IN TOWN THAT WERE PRIVATIZED. THEY WERE SENT TO NONPROFITS. OCTOBER FEST BEING ONE OF THEM. CHIEF, IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT, MEDFORD CELEBRATES, UH, THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE, IF THEY DON'T MAKE THE MONEY THE TOWNSHIP MONEY, DO THEY? NO. OCTOBER FEST. I MEAN, THEY BRING COMMERCE. THEY BRING, YEAH, THEY BRING PEOPLE INTO OUR TOWN IN LARGE VOLUMES THAT SUPPORT OUR MAIN, TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS MOVED TO MEDFORD BECAUSE THEY CAME TO THE ART AND WINE FESTIVAL AND THEY WERE SO TAKEN ABACK BY MEDFORD THAT THEY ENDED UP MOVING HERE. SO THERE'S MANY BENEFITS TO THESE ENTERPRISES THAT THE TOWNSHIP COULD NO LONGER SUPPORT. SO THOSE WERE ALL SHED OUT TO PRIVATE ENTITIES, NONPROFITS THAT MANAGED THOSE EVENTS FOR US THE SAME WAY THAT MYA MANAGES OUR RECREATION. SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW FAR ALONG ARE THESE PLANS? IS IT SET, DONE, DEAL FOR ALL OF THE LEVELS? MR. NO, A COURT ORDER SIGNED BY JUDGE COOK, I BELIEVE STATING THAT OUR FOURTH ROUND HOUSING ELEMENT, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAS BEEN APPROVED AND PROVIDED, UM, IMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF THE FOURTH ROUND. SO, UM, IF TOWNSHIP WAS TO DEVIATE FROM THESE PLANS, YOU WOULD NEED TO GO AND, UH, AMEND THEM AND YOU WOULD THEN NEED TO SEEK, UH, FURTHER APPROVAL FROM THE JUDGE. SO AT, AT THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE IS WITH THE JUDGE'S APPROVAL, THE DEVELOPER HAS TO GO THROUGH THE FULL APPROVAL PROCESS THROUGH DEP ALL, DO ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, AND THEN GO THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS AS WELL AS THE COUNTY FOR TRAFFIC STUDIES. SO WHILE THE PLANNING HAS BEEN APPROVED, AS MR. UMBA SAID, AND WHILE THOSE PLANS THAT YOU HAVE THERE ARE A PART OF THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND HAVE BEEN APPROVED, WE'RE STILL A WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, A SHOVEL HITS THE GROUND QUITE HONESTLY. AND WE REALLY THAT EXPANDED UPON THAT. YOU COULD STATE THAT, UM, FLYING W WAS A THIRD GROUND SITE BLIND. W ON THE MEDFORD SIDE, UH, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN 20 17, 20 17 WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED, THERE WERE 300 ADDITIONAL SENIOR UNITS THERE, UM, THAT HAD NOW COME OFF THE BOOKS. AND WHEN THE TOWNSHIP, UH, STATED THAT IT WAS DUE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL TRAITS OF THE MEDFORD SIDE, UM, AND THAT WAS WHY THE TOWNSHIP, UH, UH, UPDATED THE REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CERTAIN, UH, ITEMS TO KEEP THAT DEVELOPMENT AS A C NOT SURPRISED, I MEAN, ANYWAY, I MEAN THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR THE RES GREG'S AUTO BODY THAT CONSUMER MAY HAPPEN AT INGER, THAT CONSUMER MAY HAPPEN AT, UH, UH, K'S, UH, THE LANDING AT KIRBY'S MILL. AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY GET APPROVAL FROM THE DEP, UM, AND THEN MAKE APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING COURT FOR APPROVAL. THESE ARE ALL CONCEPT PLANS. YOU SAID THESE ARE ALL CONCEPT PLANS. THEY'RE NOT FINAL ET IN STONE. THEY'RE SET TO AN OBJECT. SO YOU, YOU WOULDN'T EXCEED, WE NEEDED TO SHOW THE JUDGE THAT WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT OR SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT FIT THE NEED OF THE CORRECT. IT'S 1 77 WAS THE FOURTH ROUND NUMBER. 1 71. YES. 1 7 1 71. 1 71. SO WE HAD TO SHOW THAT WE HAD DEVELOPMENTS THAT, THAT MET THAT. SO WE CAN GO TO PLANNING, PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS AND, AND THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND STILL SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY PLANNING MM-HMM . FOR APPROVAL. UM, SO NONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE SOUGHT APPROVAL FROM THOSE, THOSE BOARDS. ALL THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS STATED THAT THEY WERE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVING AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE PLANNING BOARDS OF BOTH THE COUNTY AND, OKAY. NOW, MR. NOEL BE INVOLVED. YES. . THANK YOU MRS. VALENTINE. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES SENSE. THANKS MS. VALENTINE. I, MS. VALENTINE. I DO, I DO WANNA NOTE THOUGH, 'CAUSE I MEAN, I, I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH THIS MEETING AND IN PRIOR MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN TO. UM, BUT THAT IS REALLY WHY AT THIS POINT, THIS COUNCIL IS, WE, WE HONESTLY, I, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE INHERITED THIS, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO, THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, THE PRIOR COUNCILS KNEW ROUND FOUR WAS COMING. THEY DID NOT TAKE ACTION AT THOSE TIME AND WAITED AND WAITED AND WAITED. EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN A NUMBER OF WHAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING YIELD WAS GOING TO BE. THEY KNEW ROUND FOUR WAS COMING. WE KNOW ROUND FIVE WAS COMING IN 2035. SO WE ARE TRYING TO BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN PRIOR COUNCILS AND PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS TO TAKE NECESSARY STEPS TO PREVENT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. SO THAT WAY, WHETHER WE'RE HERE IN 2035 OR THERE'S ANOTHER NEW SET OF FIVE PEOPLE HERE IN 2035, THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT THE PLAN IS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE NEXT IN ROUND FIVE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I JUST WANNA BRING SOMETHING UP TO YOU, MR. NOEL. LET KNOWN ON THIS. SO WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH, UM, MR. SAMOS ON [00:55:01] BOTH SIDES OF 70 AND THE, THE PLOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 70 AND, UM, MR. SAMOS WENT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING, WANTED TO PUT A MOVIE SEAT THEATER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND MR. NO, AND MR. NORMAN, THE ATTORNEY SAID TO US THE BUSIEST THING IS TO DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. YOU DID EXACT OPPOSITE. AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE MOVIE THEATER ON THE NORTH SIDE. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. HE WANTED TO CHANGE EVERYTHING, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAY'S THE BEST, I THINK HIS WAY WAS THE BEST. THANK YOU. UM, MR. CARNES, YOU'LL BE NEXT. UM, AND JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS, I BELIEVE MANY OF US HAVE CHILDREN THAT HAVE PLAYED IN MYA SPORTS. I BELIEVE THE PARTICIPATION NUMBER DOES INCLUDE HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES. I KNOW, UM, TWO OF MY CHIL, UM, I'M SORRY JUDGE, I'M JUST ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. BUT TWO OF MY CHILDREN WERE PARTICIPANTS IN NY ARE, ARE AND WERE, WHILE DURING THEIR HIGH SCHOOL YEARS, AND I BELIEVE IF THEY PLAY MULTIPLE SPORTS MM-HMM . THEN THEY'RE CONSIDERED PARTIC, LIKE MY ONE CHILD COULD PART BE TWO PARTICIPANTS, ONE IN SPORT A AND ONE IN SPORT B. SO THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS, UM, MAY NOT DIRECTLY CORRELATE TO THE, THE CENSUS INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, BUT, UM, SAID 7,000. I'M SORRY FOR MYA THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS YOU SAID 7,000. I I DON'T, I'M SORRY. I'M JUST, IF I MISSPOKE ON THE NUMBER, I APOLOGIZE. MRS. B IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD JUST ASK THEM. YEAH, YEAH. WE'LL JUST ASK THEM. WE'LL ASK THEM. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S FIND OUT THAT NUMBER. I'M BRIAN CARNES. NICE TO MEET YOU. I LOVE HOW YOU SPEAK UP HERE. YOU'RE YELLING AT ME. YOUR TIME'S UP, MA'AM. THANK YOU. SHE'S ASKING LOADED QUESTIONS. MR. CARNES. GO RIGHT AHEAD. ALL THANK YOU COUNSEL, UM, FOR LETTING ME TO SPEAK. WE HAVE, AND, AND, AND THIS IS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. YOUR, YOUR PROFESSIONALS ARE COMPLETELY COMPROMISED IN EVERY SINGLE WAY. THEY HAVE TAKEN MONEY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM HORTON LONG BEFORE EVEN ROUND FOUR WAS ANNOUNCED. AND EVEN SCOTT TAYLOR. HEY SCOTT. SO YOU HAMMERED OUR FARM WITH THAT VARIANCE. YOU SHUT US DOWN. NOW I LOVE THIS PART. MR. HARE UMBA. I CALL YOU HAIR 'CAUSE YOU GOT GREAT HAIR. UM, YOU TOLD ME THAT OUR YOU DO HAVE, YOU GIMME SOME AND YOU NEED SOME TOO. MIKE. THE REPUBLICANS ARE STEALING ALL OUR HAIR TELLING ME THEY ARE. YOU HAVE NICE STUFF. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE WE DID SIT DOWN AND MEET AND YOU SAID THE VARIANCE FELL APART AFTER WE GAVE 'EM ALL THIS MONEY BECAUSE OF A ILLEGAL BARN. SO WHAT WAS UH, REFERRED TO IN THE TAYLOR, LET'S DO THIS MAN, WAS THAT THEY WERE NON, UH, ITEMS ON THE FARM THAT WERE NOT IN COMPLY. CAN YOU SHOW THAT REPORT TO THE COUNCIL TO RAY SHOW IT TO HIM IN WRITING? AND I CAN PULL IT. WE HAD AT THE MEETING, BUT IT'S, NOBODY SEES IT. NOBODY SAW THAT. THAT THE PLANNER, WHEN YOU MAKE APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE YOU A COMPLETE REVIEW SO THAT IF THERE ARE NON-COMPLIANT ITEMS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BUILT, THAT THEY WOULD GO INTO COMPLIANCE AS PART OF THE, UH, THE APPLICATION. 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR AN APPLICATION IF THERE ARE VARIOUS . BUT WHERE IS THE WRITING OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOU'RE MAKING STUFF UP. YOU REALLY ARE MAKING STUFF UP. IT'S ALL RIGHT. LISTEN, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHY THE REPORT WAS SO NEGATIVE. DO YOU SEE HOW IT IS? I MEAN, THE, THE PLANNER HAS TO PROVIDE A REPORT. YOU CAN'T GO BEFORE. IT SHOULD BE NEUTRAL. YOU CAN'T GO BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD. THEY WERE COMPLETELY BIASED BECAUSE HONESTLY, THE MYAA GUYS CLEARLY WANTS OUR PROPERTY. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THAT IS WHAT THE AGENDA WAS. AND YOU GUYS ARE, YOU'RE SAYING ROUND FIVE, BUT THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN CRUCIFYING US ARE STILL HERE. THE PRIMES ARE INVOLVED WITH THE MYA. AM I LYING MIKE? IN WHAT WAY? WHAT WAY THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH THE MYAA, THE SPORTS THEY DON'T FLAG. THAT'S FOR SURE. I'M, I DON'T MENTION THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE NYA IS FLUSHING MONEY. THAT'S HOW IT'S A CASINO FOR METFORD TOWNSHIP. IT'S OBVIOUS WE CAN'T EVEN FIND OUT HOW OUR TAXPAYER MONEY IS SPENT. IF YOU GUYS THINK THIS IS RIGHT, YOU'RE ALL NUTS. OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU JUST TO TELL US WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. FINE. OKAY. SO CHRIS NOEL, CHRIS, YOU GET A MILLION DOLLARS FROM HORTON TO DO SOMETHING AT THE TURF FIELDS IN 2023. THAT IS TOTALLY INCORRECT. AND IT'S A LIE. WELL, YOU'RE ADVERTISING UP NORTH. IT'S TOTALLY, IT'S SUGGESTING THAT YOU DIDN'T THREE MONTHS. IT'S TOTALLY INCORRECT. YOU'RE WELL, OKAY. SAYING SO DID YOU SEE THE POST THOUGH? AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING MORE. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. AND WE APPRECIATE IT. SO NOW YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAN'T SPEAK AND WE GO BACK TO HERE. IT'S PING PONG. IT REALLY IS, MAN, YOU GUYS JUMP IN. I SPOKE AND YOU WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT I SAID, BUT YOU ADVERTISED SAYING [01:00:01] THAT'S NO PROBLEM. YOU, YOU ADVERTISED UP NORTH IN UNION COUNTY SAYING THAT YOU DID A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF WORK HERE FOR THE MYAA. NOW THERE ARE NO MONEY GOING THROUGH AN ESCROW ACCOUNT THAT I, THAT I CAN THINK OF. AND THE FACT THAT THE MATTER IS, I COME UP HERE AND I ASK ABOUT YOUR 2015. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WROTE A BAD REPORT ON INGER, RIGHT, MR. CHRIST. HE'S NOT GONNA RESPOND TO YOU. YOU CAN CONTINUE YOUR COMMENTS THOUGH. YOU DO HAVE FIVE MINUTES. FINE. FAIR ENOUGH. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THE PROFESSIONALS 'CAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETELY COMPROMISED. AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYBODY HERE SITTING. YOU GUYS JUST ARE, MAN, IT IS A PAYCHECK, PAYCHECK, PAYCHECK THING. SO THEN I WANNA JUST TALK TO THE COUNCIL. OKAY? THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT, SO IT'S THIS LAST TIME, BRIAN. THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE HERE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. THEY SHOULD BE. THAT'S THAT MIKE. NOW THE MYAA, YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S NOT REAL QUESTIONS OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING? ALL RIGHT. I I, I WANNA KNOW WHY TOM GIULIANI WAS TRYING TO RUN SEWER OUT TO BOB BENDY SOCCER PARK. NOW. JUST, JUST THEM. OKAY. YOU WERE ASKING WHY, WHO IS RUNNING SEWER? TOM GIULIANI WAS TRYING TO RUN SEWER OUT TO BOB BENDY SOCCER PARK JUST FOR ONE BATHROOM AND FINE. I KNOW THAT'S A NEW QUESTION. LET'S GO WITH AN OLD QUESTION I ASKED YOU GUYS. OKAY, SO, SO LAST YEAR AND RAY AND KATHY, YOU GUYS WEREN'T HERE. THERE'S $1.65 MILLION THAT COMES OUTTA NOWHERES. YOU GUYS, WHAT? YOU, YOU BUY THE LAND ACROSS FROM JOHNSON'S FARM? THAT'S A MILLION, RIGHT? THAT WAS UNDER 1,000,009, 9, 9, 9 80. BUT LET'S, YOU SHOULD SEE HIS COMMENTS AFTER YOU PAY HIM A MILLION. BUT ANYWAY, THE $650,000 THAT WENT TO THE LIGHTS AT THE MYAA, RIGHT? NO, MIKE, YOU MADE THESE DECISIONS. HOW DO YOU NOT 650 GRAND. I KNOW WHAT I SPENT $10 ON. BRIAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE MONEY. OPEN SPACE MONEY WAS SPENT ON THE, ON THE WOODED LOT ACROSS FROM JOHNSON'S FARM. YES. THAT WAS OPEN SPACE MONEY. OKAY, WE'LL CALL IT A MILLION DOLLARS. FINE. THE LIGHT, THE UPGRADED LIGHTS AT HARTFORD CROSSING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? $650,000 WAS THROWN IN LIKE THE WHOLE THING, THE WAY YOU GUYS ANNOUNCED IT. SO, MR. MAYOR, REAL QUICK. NO, NO. IMMA PLEASE, DUDE, STOP. I'M GONNA TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WE PUT IN OFFICE, OKAY? THAT ARE NORMAL CITIZENS. THIS IS THE PROBLEM, MAN. WE JUST DEFLECTED THE PROFESSIONALS. I'M NOT DEFLECTED. YOU'RE GONNA DO YOUR THING. GO ON. OKAY. $650,000. I'M GONNA ASK MR. DON'T DO IT. DUDE, YOU AWARDED THE 600. HE WASN'T EVEN HERE. RIGHT? I'M JUST GONNA LET YOU KNOW I GOT A FULL-TIME JOB AND A FAMILY. I DON'T HAVE ALL THESE NUMBERS, MAN. $650,000 OF OUR MONEY AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET YOU THE RIGHT ANSWER, BRIAN, BUT I ASKED THIS THREE MONTHS AGO AND YOU SAID DOVI WILL GET BACK TO ME. I NEVER HEARD FROM ANYBODY. OKAY. LIGHTS WEREN'T $650,000. THERE WAS A GRANT THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY THAT APPLIED FOR IT IN BURLINGTON COUNTY RECEIVED A PORTION OF MM-HMM. WE, WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. WE RECEIVED THE GRANT. I THINK IT WAS $125,000. THE LIGHTS WERE IN EXCESS OF 225,000 MYA PAID. THE BALANCE THAT HAD THAT IS THAT IS, YOU GUYS ARE ON THE RECORD. 650 K IN. IS THIS ABOUT YOU ARE, MAN, I'M JUST TELLING YOU. I BARELY PAID. I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO THE HOCKEY DECK. THE DECK HOCKEY RINK. SO THIS IS A NEW THING. I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE HOCKEY THING TOO, BUT GO ON. WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT IT. SO THE LIGHTS WERE, WERE A GRANT THAT THE TOWNSHIP APPLIED FOR, RECEIVED AS EVERY MUNICIPALITY DID. THE TOTAL AMOUNT WAS BROKEN DOWN AND EVERY MUNICIPALITY GOT 125,000 THAT WENT TO THE LIGHTS. AND THEN MYA PUT IN THE REST. WELL, BUT YOU APPLIED FOR A COUNTY BRANCH. YOU WERE AWARDED $125,000. IT WAS 5 MILLION ALTOGETHER. AND VARIOUS TOWNS GOT DIFFERENT ONES. IT'S, THAT'S THE BURLINGTON COUNTY PARK GRANT PROGRAM. YEAH. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU APPLIED FOR, FROM THE OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION. YEAH. SO THE, THE COUNTY HAS AN OPEN SPACE FUND. SO THERE'S A COUNTY. YEAH, WE'RE ALL, WE WE'RE ALL PAYING INTO IT OPEN SPACE FUND. THE COUNTY USED TO DO IT ANNUALLY. THEY NOW DO IT PERIODICALLY. AND THE LAST ONE THAT WENT, THE TOWN PUT IN FOR LIGHTING, 125,000, UH, FOR THAT. AND THEN THE REMAINING AMOUNT WAS PAID FOR BY MYAA. SO I THINK THIS IS SO DIRTY AND DISGUSTING. WHAT'S GOING ON? BUT LET'S GO. SO THAT'S THE LIGHTS. SO THAT'S THE LIGHTS. MR. CAR, YOU'RE REFERRING TO ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 18, UM, WHEN IT CALLS FOR 1 31 CHURCH ROAD, THAT WAS AN ORDINANCE SETTING A BUDGET OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO BE USED TO PRESERVE THE, UH, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE OPEN SPACES OR [01:05:01] THE, THE WOODED AREA. THE TOWN. YES, YOU DID. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT GUY SAID ABOUT YOU GUYS? THAT HE WAS BLOCKED FROM EVERY EFFORT. YOU GIVE A MILLION DOLLARS AND HE COMES OUT AND HE SAYS BASICALLY PRIME AND THE TOWNSHIP BLOCKED HIM FROM BUILDING MILLION DOLLARS. THE TOWNSHIP SET A BUDGET IN ITS CAPITAL ORDINANCE FOR A MILLION DOLLARS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE MILLION DOLLARS CAME FROM. I DO NOT HAVE THE SALE DOCUMENT HERE AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT. FAIR ENOUGH. HOW MUCH OF OUR OPEN SPACE FUNDS THAT WE PAY TAXES INTO ARE GOING TO THE MYAA $20,000 A YEAR? NO, NO, NO. HE'S ASKING IF THE OPEN SPACE FUND THAT IT GOES, WE'RE PAYING FOR THE LAWN MAINTENANCE. IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT THAT I BELIEVE COMES OUT OF THE CURRENT FUND. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK IT. MYAI DO KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD SOME PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT ACQUISITION AND THAT LAND, PART OF THE MONEY COMES FROM THERE. AND I THINK PART OF IT COMES FROM THE, OR FROM THE, THE TOWNSHIP'S MAINTENANCE OF TOWNSHIP PROPERTIES IN THE CURRENT FUND BUDGET. SO, BUT THAT ONE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MS. HOLLOWAY AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THE OB SECTION FOR, UH, OPEN SPACE. SO THEY COME OUT OF BOTH, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TOWNSHIP, WHAT IS THE TOTAL THAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR BOB BENDY AND HARTFORD CROSSING IS, IT'S AN EASY QUESTION. HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING? WHAT DO YOU MEAN PAYING? YEAH, US TAXPAYERS. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE HA HAMMERING US ON THE OPEN SPACE. THEN YOU GOT, UM, THERE IS WHAT, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. WE ARE FUNDING THIS AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT'S GOING ON. WHAT, IN WHAT REGARDS ARE YOU STATING WELL, WELL, WHOA. WELL, OUR MONEY UMBA? YES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TURKEY? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ? I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL IN ALL IN HOW MUCH IS THAT COSTING US? AND I WOULD HAVE TO PULL IT OUT. BUT WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY CAN YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW? 'CAUSE YOU GOT THE COMPUTER, YOU'RE PRETTY FAST WITH ANSWERING OTHER STUFF. WHAT ARE WE PAYING ANYWAY? I WANNA START A KICKBALL LINK. I REALLY DO. AND I WANT TO USE MY PUBLIC SPACE. 'CAUSE WE ARE FUNDING IT. DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW MANY DIAPERS AND CRAP WE PULL OUT OF THE PASTURE AFTER, LET'S JUST SAY LAST WEEK'S GAME FROM THE NEW YORKERS, PENNSYLVANIA RESIDENTS. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS HERE IN MEDFORD, BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUTTA THE AREA AS TOURNAMENTS. WE'RE SICK OF IT. IT'S IN OUR FACE. EVERYTHING'S THE DEVELOPING AND, AND EVERYTHING WITH BOB BENDY. DID YOU SEE THE PHOTO I PUT UP? THE CARS ARE LINED UP, PARKED ON OUR PROPERTY RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. NOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT USUALLY, BUT THIS STINKS. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT STINKS WITH THE MYAA AND I'M TRYING TO GET AT THE BOTTOM OF IT. RIGHT. BRIAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON? LIKE, TELL, TELL US ALL WHAT YOU ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE FLUSHING MONEY THROUGH THE NYAA AND YOU'RE GETTING INFLUENCED THROUGH THE PROFESSIONALS. AND HONESTLY, IF I WAS JOHN HORTON HORTON'S GUY, I WOULD BE MAKING DONATIONS THROUGH EVERYTHING. AND, AND THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. WHY ARE YOU GUYS LIKE SWEATING DOING EVERYTHING YOU CAN FROM THE I-M-Y-A-A, BUT I CAN'T BRING PRESSURE TREATED WOOD TO THE TOWNSHIP. MIKE, IS THAT A QUE IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD ANSWER? $50,000 IS WHAT YOU TOLD ME. IT'S COSTING US. SO WE HAVE TO CUT THAT SERVICE. YEAH, BUT YOU GUYS ARE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS FOR PEOPLE TO COME AT OTHER AREAS TO USE FIELDS THAT WE CAN'T. YOU CAN USE THE FIELDS. BRIAN, WHEN I BET YOU I'M ARRESTED. HONESTLY, I WAS OUT THERE THE OTHER NIGHT AND I WAS SCARED. I KNOW YOU GUYS GOT CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, . AND I'M LIKE, WELL, IF IT HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS. WHEN CAN I USE THE FIELD? I BELIEVE WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING UTILIZED BY MYA IT, IT HAPPENS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. I I, MY DAUGHTERS PLAY SOFTBALL. THERE'S SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THERE'S OPEN FIELDS AND THERE'S CHILDREN PRACTICING. THERE'S, THERE'S THERE. I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A LEAGUE, MIKE. IT'S NOT PUBLIC SPACE. AND BELIEVE ME, IT'S NOT. YEAH. THERE'S A, THAT ORGANIZATION CAN APPLY FOR. RIGHT? DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT? THEN? WHAT DO I HAVE TO APPLY? IT'S PUBLIC SPACE. JUST LIKE THE NEW FREEDOM PARK. THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING. SO IT IT, IT DEPENDS ON IF IT'S JUST RESIDENTS GOING OR IF IT'S AN ORGANIZATION. IT'S AN ORGANIZATION. WE REQUIRE THEM JUST TO PROVIDE A A CERTIFICATE. YEAH. WE HAVE THAT'S, THAT'S A SAFETY MEASURE THAT PROTECTS YOU WHEN YEAH, WE CAN'T, RIGHT. WHEN DID WE GO OVER? YOU SEE THAT THING? I KEEP POSTING. SO IT SAYS IN LIKE 2013, IT SAYS, HEY MAN, THIS IS A BURDEN TO US. IT'S A BURDEN. WHAT IS A BURDEN? THE FIELDS, THE ATHLETIC FIELDS. RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S A BURDEN. COME ON MAN. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS. RIGHT? AND IT'S AN AGREEMENT. AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, WELDS AND LIGHTS. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. THAT'S WHY WE TURN THINGS OVER. AND IT ACTUALLY SAYS IN THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT IT SAYS, WE AS A TOWNSHIP CAN'T TELL PEOPLE TO NOT COME ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. BUT IF WE [01:10:01] TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS, YOU CAN, CAN I GO OUT TO BOB BENDY SOCCER PARK DOING A GAME AND JUST START KICKING A BALL AROUND? NO, BRIAN, THAT WOULDN'T BE, BUT DO YOU THINK IT'S PUBLIC LAND? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALL THIS FUNDING. AND THE PROBLEM, MIKE, IS YOU GUYS HAVEN'T DONE A SQUAT FOR ANYBODY ELSE. THIS IS ALL, EVERYTHING IS BEING FUNNELED THROUGH THAT ORGANIZATION. AND YOU'D BE DUMB AS A ROCK TO NOT TO THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH HERE. RIGHT. AND I LIVE NEXT DOOR. AND THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. YOU GUYS HAVE NO PARKING. YOU'RE OUTTA SPACE. AND THEN YOU THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, HOW THEY AGGRESSIVELY USE THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TO PUSH PEOPLE OUT. , DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THINK THAT THE MYAA IN THE TOWNSHIP WASN'T AFTER THE KARNS FAMILY FARM? GO ON THE RECORD. YOU ARE ASKING. DO IT. YES. LOT OF PRESSURE. MIKE, YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT US TO DECIDE IF I ALREADY KNOW? NO, I THINK PEOPLE UP HERE CAN PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER. I'M JUST WONDERING, DO YOU THINK THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO PUSH US OUT OF YOUR FAMILY? YES. WHEN, WHEN YO YOUR BOY, TOM GIULIANI WENT AFTER A LADY THAT HAD A LAUNDRY BUSINESS OR SOMETHING ON ROUTE ONE 30, THEY LITERALLY ZONED HER, BROUGHT HER INTO COURT JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH MY MOM TO TAKE THE PROPERTY FOR CHICK-FIL-A. IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE HERE. OKAY? SO THEY WEREN'T DOING THAT TO US. YOU'RE MAKING THE ACCUSATION 100% THAT PREVIOUS COUNSELS HAVE. I'M JUST MAKING EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO OUR FAMILY, WHICH I HEAR YOU'RE RIGHT. YES. THAT PREVIOUS COUNSELS HAVE TAKEN ACTIONS TO FORCE YOUR FAMILY OUT OF YOUR FARM. YES. I'M GONNA UNEQUIVOCALLY SAY THAT THAT'S F FACTUALLY FALSE. THAT'S FALSE. YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR CHUCK WATSON. I'M SPEAKING FOR THE TOWNSHIP. YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR CHUCK WATSON THOUGH. YOU THINK I'M SPEAKING FOR CHUCK WATSON? YES YOU ARE. HE'S THE ONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE PRIMES. I HAVE NOT. HEY RAY, DO YOU THINK THAT I'M AN IDIOT FOR EVEN SUGGESTING THAT? YEAH. I MEAN, I WASN'T HERE. I CAN, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK TO PRIOR COUNSELS. I MEAN, YOU, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS VERY REGRETTABLE TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. THEY WEAPONIZED THE ZONING DEPARTMENT TO TAKE THE LAND. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RUNNING MATE DID FOR HE YOUR RUNNING MATE. THAT'S WHAT HE DID. THE CHICK-FIL-A GUY. I DIDN'T, HE'S ATTACKING A WOMAN THAT HAS A BUSINESS. YEAH. THROUGH ZONING. SHE WINS NOW. I MEAN, I GUESS PEOPLE DO MAKE CHANGES IN THEIR LIFE, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. RIGHT. AND I CAN'T GET OVER THE CLIQUE OF PEOPLE THAT RUN HERE. RIGHT. AND ONCE AGAIN, THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? RIGHT. YOU, BRIAN, WE'VE GIVEN YOU AMPLE TIME. I BELIEVE YOU'VE MADE YOUR STATEMENT. I DON'T BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE'VE ALL SPOKEN TO YOU AT THIS POINT. HAVE YOU? YOUR TIME IS UP. ALL RIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. THE TREE ORDINANCE. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? WE'VE, WE'VE ADDRESSED IT. THANK YOU. I KNOW. YEAH, YOU SHOULD. YOU GUYS KNOW THOUGH, THIS IS REALLY DISGUSTING WHAT'S GOING ON. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR PROFESSIONALS ARE COMPLETELY COMPROMISED, COMPLETELY COMPROMISED. I'M GONNA GO ON REALLY QUICK. HE SHUT OUR FARM DOWN FROM SELLING FIREWOOD. 2016, RIGHT? 2016. CHUCK WATSON BRINGS HIM IN. WE'RE NOBODY CARES. RAY, YOU SHUT US DOWN. YOU'RE MAKING A BUNCH OF MONEY ACROSS THE STREET. HE'S TAKEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND HOW WOULD YOU, HE BOUGHT A HOUSE FROM HORTON FOR $150,000 LESS THAN EVERYBODY ELSE DID. I JUST WANT TO TALK TO COUNCIL AND OUR NEIGHBORS. RIGHT. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CHIEF GUYS DISCUSSING. ALRIGHT. SPECIFICALLY, MR. MAYOR, UM, WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE FUND, UH, LAST YEAR FUND FINISH WITH ABOUT A HUNDRED GRAND LEFT IN IT. UM, IT'S STILL IN RESERVE STATUS. UM, THERE IS NO DELINEATION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PARKS. SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE FINANCE OFFICE AND PULL POS TO ACTUALLY DELINEATE BOB BENJI, UH, PARK TO SEE WHAT, UH, ITEMS WOULD GO THERE. UM, AND THEN I WOULD JUST STATE THAT THE TOWNSHIP DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO ACQUIRE MR. CAR'S FARM. UM, IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT BY THE COUNTY FOR PRESERVATION. I KNOW THE VALUE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. I I BELIEVE COUNCIL COX ASKED ME TO LOOK INTO IT. UM, FOR THE NORTH SIDE, NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST MR. KANE'S PROPERTY, BUT WHAT OTHER AREAS COULD WE ADDRESS, UM, IN, IN REGARDS TO TRYING PRESERVING LAND IN PREPARATION FOR THE FIFTH ROUND SO THAT LESS LAND IS AVAILABLE? UM, THE TOWNSHIP JUST DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE BONDING CAPABILITY IN ORDER TO PRESERVE MR. CARMEN'S FARM ON THEIR OWN. UM, THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO ASSIST YOU OR THE STATE, BUT THEY DON'T, THEIR FARM DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE, FOR THE STATE OR THE COUNTY [01:15:01] PROGRAM. WE'VE ASKED THAT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A NEW PROGRAM THAT I BELIEVE IN 2027. YES. BUT HE CAN, WE SHOWED IT TO HIM. NEW PARAMETERS IN ST BUT IT WAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT BOB AND, UM, I I DON'T HAVE THE IN REGARDS TO, UH, TO THAT. SO YEAH, THANK YOU MR. ELBA. AND I MEAN, AN ACCUSATION WAS HAR AGAINST ME, MR. UH, MAYOR, ABOUT A HOME THAT I LIVE IN. UH, YOU CAN JUST LOOK ACROSS THE STREET. YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE BEFORE ME A MONTH EARLIER AND THEY PAID BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS ME. SO IF YOU WANNA MAKE ACCUSATIONS, I WOULD BACK THEM UP. BUT THAT IS SLANDEROUS. AND UH, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT COMPARABLE SALES LOOK AT AND THE MODEL ACROSS THE STREET, UNLESS IT'S ACTUALLY THE MORE EXPENSIVE MODEL. FAIR. OKAY. UM, OKAY. I'M HEATHER CARMS. I'M AT THE FARM 2 65. HI. UM, SO SOMETHING WAS POSTED THIS WEEK ABOUT THE LIGHTS ON THE SOCCER FIELD AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY ARE FRUSTRATING. YES. THE LIGHTS ARE LIKE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET A TIMER? YEAH. SO FOR SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT IS REALLY WEIRD WHEN, LIKE, I WAS OUT THERE LAST WINTER IN A SNOWSTORM WITH MY DAUGHTER AND THE LIGHTS ARE ON. I SAW THAT PICTURE AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT? AND YOU BRING THAT UP BEFORE I BELIEVE. YEAH. LATE. YEAH. UM, ALL HOURS RAINED. THE ONLY THING THAT IS, I WILL SAY IS GOOD IS WITH THE LIGHTNING WHEN THE, I, I KNOW WHEN THERE'S GONNA BE LIGHTNING IN THE AREA NOW. 'CAUSE THAT WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP GO AHEAD. YEAH. WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME MM-HMM . THE CONVERSATION WAS HAD WITH THE MEM THE, THE MYA BOARD. AND THE REASON IT CAN'T BE ON A TIMER IS IF THERE IS AN EVENT THAT THAT'S RUNNING LONG OVER TIMES. I DON'T KNOW HOW SO, YOU KNOW, BUT THEN THE LIGHTS SHUT OFF AND EVERYBODY'S IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIELD WITH THE LIGHTS OFF. SO IT HAS TO BE ON, I GUESS, A BREAKER OR SOME SORT OF SWITCH. LIKE ALL THE OTHER FIELDS ARE. I'M GUILTY OF LEAVING THE LIGHTS ON AT THE SOFTBALL COMPLEX AND HAVING TO GO BACK. UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FREQUENCY AND, AND HOW OFTEN IT HAPPENS. WE CAN BRING THIS BACK UP TO NYAA. UM, WE CAN, I WE CANNOT DIRECT. YEAH. THEY SEEM TO COME ON THOUGH. EVEN WHEN THERE'S NOT GAMES LIKE THEY FLICK ON AND THEN THEY'LL JUST, AND IT'LL JUST BE A COMPLETELY VACANT AREA DOWN THERE. QUIET. NO, NOBODY PLAYING AND THEY'RE ON AND THEN THEY JUST STAY ON TILL WE WILL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. YEAH. MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. AND I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE IF IT'S WHEN THE LAST PERSONS LEAVE, I MEAN, I GUESS IF THEY FORGET IT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH. BUT, UM, YEAH, JUST TURN OFF THE LIGHTS. . RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT MY MAMA, WE TELL OUR KIDS THAT TOO. UH, YEAH. THE LIGHTS SUNNY AND THEY COME UP AND THEY SHINE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, UP THE, UP THE WAY. SO IT'S, IT IS WILD. BUT, UH, AND MY, MY NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SOCCER FIELD, UH, ELIZABETH, SHE, SHE HAS HORSES AND SHE'S ANNOYED BY IT 'CAUSE IT'S SHINING RIGHT ON HER PROPERTY, SO MM-HMM . YEAH. WHOEVER POSTED THAT SNOW PICTURE THAT, THAT WAS, I WAS SO SURPRISED BY THAT. YEAH. NO, WE, WE RAN DOWN THERE WITH THE DOG. IT WAS PRETTY FUNNY. SO, UM, OKAY. LET US LOOK INTO POINT. WE BROUGHT THAT UP. IT'S, I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT, UH, IT IS, IT IS REALLY AN ANNOYING THING. AND IT'S BEEN, IT'S, IT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE WHEN I, BEFORE, WHEN I CAME UP HERE. SO, AND I LOVE MY BROTHER. HE'S JUST SUPER PASSIONATE, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, HE JUST THANK YOU WITH THE LIGHTS. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE WOULD HAVE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THERE MUST BE OTHER TOWNS WHO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. WE COULD JUST FIND OUT WITHIN IT. YEAH. I, WE, I SPOKE TO, THERE ARE, THERE ARE TIMERS. WHEN I WAS IN LUMBERTON, WE HAD TIMER NOT, NOT MOVEMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE WAS A CODE THAT WE PUT IN THE SYSTEM THAT HAVE TO PROVIDE, UH, AND, AND PUT IT ON THE, TO THE LIGHTING. I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. I, I'M NOT AWARE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S COME TO, TO ME AT LEAST, I JUST ASKED THE CHIEF IF HE WAS AWARE OF THE DIFFERENT PARAMETERS AROUND IT, SO WE WOULD'VE TO LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. YEAH. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN TIME THAT NO MATTER HOW LATE GAME GOES, IT'S NOT GOING LATER THAN YEAH. PICK A TIME. THERE ARE ALSO MANAGEMENT APPS WHERE YOU CAN CONTROL. YEAH. LEASE CAN DO THAT. SO THEY'VE GOT AN APP FOR THAT. YES. YEAH, THEY DO. EXACTLY. YES. ONE WE HAVE IN LUMBERTON. IT'S TIME. WE DON'T HAVE TO INVENT THE WHEEL. YES. IS THAT RIGHT? NO, AND I MEAN, YOU CAN, IT'S TIME TO USE THE WHEEL. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. SOME TALK OF THAT BMYA CASE FOR SOME LIGHTING. I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT WE DID IN LUMBERTON AT LEAST, IS THAT THEY, EACH ORGANIZATION HAD THEIR OWN CODE WHEN THEY TURNED IT ON, THEY REIMBURSED THE TOWN. UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK EACH ORGANIZATION BETWEEN FOOTBALL, SOCCER, AND THOSE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS OF WHAT 'CAUSE THEIR CODE PUT ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY WERE THERE. AND THEN WE JUST, UH, PUT IT TOWARDS THEMSELVES. AND YOU DIDN'T TELL US THIS BEFORE , HE'S GOT A LOT GOING ON UP THERE. UM, SO I, I CAN SPEAK ON ONLY 'CAUSE I WAS A PART OF THE ORGANIZATION. UM, MYA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE METERS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THE LIGHTS AT THE PARKS. SO, UM, INTERNALLY, I'M SURE THEY DELEGATE PAYMENTS OF THOSE BILLS TO EACH SPORT. UM, BUT IT'S NOT A TAXPAYER RESPONSIBILITY [01:20:01] TO HAVE THE LIGHTS ON. THAT'S IT. YEAH. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT BUDGET AND I DIDN'T SEE A, SO THAT'S WHY, BUT STILL MOMENT. BUT YEAH. AND THEN, UM, I THINK IN ONE OF THE REPORTS WE RECEIVED, AND I'M, I'M, FORGIVE ME IF THE NUMBER'S INCORRECT, BUT I BELIEVE MIA'S PAYS APPROXIMATELY $825,000 TO MAINTAIN THE OPEN SPACE OF THE PARKS. THAT'S, THAT'S AGAIN, IN THAT AGREEMENT WHERE THEY'RE UTILIZING THE PARKS FOR THEIR RECREATION AND THEN THEY'RE UTILIZING THEIR OWN FUNDS TO SUPPORT THOSE PARKS. THAT'S NOT MONEY THAT THE TOWNSHIP WOULD, UH, EVERY TAXPAYER WOULD'VE TO COME UP WITH. UM, OKAY. MS. HOLLOWAY, I STOLE YOUR HAND UP. I AM GONNA, I'M GONNA PUT THINGS ON RECORD. WHAT I'M HANDING IN IS THE NINE NINETIES FOR MYAA AND AN OVERVIEW FROM THE IRS ON WHAT THEY HAVE FILED AND WHAT THEY HAVE IT. I'M ONLY GIVING A COPY. I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO GIVE IT AN OVERVIEW, IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS SURROUNDING MONEY BEING RUN THROUGH THE MYAA AND THERE ARE NO ANSWERS BEING GIVEN. SO THE PUBLIC DIDN'T BRING THIS UPON THEMSELVES. THERE IS, UM, QUESTIONS, AND THE QUESTIONS WERE SUCCINCTLY PUT IN A FACEBOOK POST WITH ALL THE RESOLUTIONS POSTED, ALL THE MOUS THAT WERE DONE WITH HOW MONEY HAS GONE THROUGH THE MYAA AND THERE'S NO DISCLOSURE OF THE DONOR. IT IS PURPOSELY HIDDEN, IT SEEMS ALLEGEDLY INTENTIONALLY NOT FORTHCOMING IN THE GUISE OF WHAT SHOULD BE. THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MISAPPROPRIATIONS OR ANYTHING WRONG. IT JUST HAS TO BE THE APPEARANCE OF, SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO QUESTION THE MONEY THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE MYAA. WHO'S GIVING IT, WHO WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS GIVEN AND WHY. SO IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, AND FROM WHAT IT APPEARS ON THOSE NINE NINETIES, WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THEM, THERE ARE MISSING BLANKS ALL THROUGH THEM. SO SOME OF THEM ARE EGREGIOUS. SO WHEN YOU TALK, TAKING A LOOK, THE 1.3 MILLION THAT'S APPROPRIATED FROM DR. HORTON IN THE NEGOTIATED DEVELOPMENT FEE, IT'S A NEGOTIATED DEVELOPMENT FEE. IT'S NOT A GIVEN, IT'S NOT A CHARITY. IT'S PUT AS AN A DEVELOPMENT FEE. AND THAT DEVELOPMENT FEE WAS DIVIDED AMONG CERTAIN THINGS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP. 1.3 MILLION HAPPENS TO BE THE NUMBER THAT WAS GOING DIRECTLY TO MYA WITH I THINK ANOTHER HALF A MILLION BEING GOING TO OTHER, UH, NONPROFIT OR OR ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP. THAT 1.3 MILLION NEEDS TO BE FROZEN. THAT RESOLUTION NEEDS TO BE RESCINDED. YOU'RE COMPROMISED, MIKE, YOU'RE COMPROMISED. YOU SHOULDN'T BE VOTING ON IT. ANYTHING THAT YOU VOTED ON SHOULD BE RESCINDED. AND AN OUTSIDE INDEPENDENT LEGAL PARTY SHOULD BE REVIEWING WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO SINCE IT IS NOT BEING DISCLOSED, WHY I'M ASKING WHY, WHY DOES IT NEED TO BE HIDDEN? WHICH SPECIFIC, WHY DOES A DONOR NEED TO BE HIDDEN? WHY ON YA'S NINE, NINE ON NYAS, THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING THROUGH WHEN YOU WERE THERE YEP. AND THEN YOURS THAT YOU WERE IN THERE. WHY? SO IN 21 AND 20 IN, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT. IN 21 AND 22, 2021 AND TWO, 12,022, THE TAXES AREN'T EVEN FILED. THEY'RE NOT THERE. THEY'RE THE YEARS YOU WERE THERE, AREN'T THEY, MIKE? I'M ASKING A QUESTION, NOT AN ACCUSATION. YES. AM I RIGHT? I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE DATES JUST SO THE PUBLIC HAS THEM AS WELL. UM, AND FORGIVE ME, IT SHOULD BE NO, I I, YEAH. I WROTE IT DOWN AS MY TENURE THERE THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS PASSED THIS COUNCIL BY FIVE TO ZERO. SO EVEN IF THERE WAS A MISTAKE STILL PASSED. YEAH. SO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE, MARIAN? I'M I'M ASKING A QUESTION. UH, THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME FOR MR. AMBA FOR JUSTIFICATION. SURE. WE HAVE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES THAT APPROVE THE REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. THE REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS HAPPENS, UH, AUTHORIZED IN AN ORDER SIGNED BY JUDGE COOK. SO THEY'RE AN AUTHORIZED AGREEMENT. THERE'S A CHALLENGE THAT WOULD COME, THAT WOULD BE THE LEGAL SYSTEM. EXACTLY. BUT THERE ARE STILL FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. EXACTLY. IT WOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE LEGAL SYSTEM. SO MARY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU ALL YOUR TIME. OKAY. BUT I WANT TO ANSWER THE TWO POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. . SO YOU HAD MADE A STATEMENT EARLIER IN YOUR STATE, IN YOUR COMMENTS, THAT IF MY VOTES ARE IN THEORY COMPROMISED IN [01:25:01] YOUR WORDS, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO LET'S SAY WE RESCINDED ALL THE VOTES I'VE EVER MADE ON COUNCIL, EVER. ZERO ACTIONS WOULD CHANGE EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT YOU RECOMMENDED. I DO. WHICH IN DECEM, THE LAST MEETING IN DECEMBER. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESCIND THEM ALL THAT, THAT'S A LARGE NET TO UNWIND. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS MY VOTES FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, I WAS THE FIFTH VOTE. THERE WAS FOUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO EVEN IF I, I'M SORRY. FOUR. THERE WAS FOUR VOTES. YES. BETHANY, YOU WERE NOT HERE. RIGHT? FOR ONE OF, ONE OF THE, FOR ONE OF THEM. SO EVEN IF I DIDN'T VOTE AND I ABSTAINED, IT WOULD STILL WOULD'VE PASSED AND WE WOULD STILL BE HERE TODAY IN THE SAME SITUATION WE WERE IN. YOU THEN BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT I WAS PRESENT IN 21 AND 22 WHEN THE TAXES WEREN'T FILED. I ASKED, I DIDN'T SPEAK FOR YOUR EDIFICATION. AND FOR THE PUBLIX, I MADE A PRESENTATION ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2022 TO THE MYA BOARD TO TAKE OVER A VACANCY IN THE SOFTBALL COMMISSIONERSHIP. THAT VACANCY, I, I HAD NO INTENTION OF BEING THE SOFTBALL COMMISSIONER. I WASN'T EVEN A COACH AT THE TIME. I WAS A SOFTBALL DAD ON A LAWN CHAIR. IF I DIDN'T STEP UP AND VOLUNTEER, THERE WOULDN'T BE A SOFTBALL PROGRAM. SO ON ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2022, I PRESENTED THE BOARD. I SAID, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO IT, I'LL DO IT. I WAS APPOINTED ON ONE, ONE OF 23. AND MY FINAL YEAR WAS, MY FINAL DAY WAS 1231 OF 25 AND ONE ONE OF 24. THERE'S A LONG STANDING HISTORY OF YOUR LAST YEAR'S COMMISSIONER. YOU TRAINED THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A CONSISTENT HANDOFF. SO THERE WAS AN ACTING COMMISSIONER IN PLACE ONE ONE OF 24. SO AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU TAKE ANY ISSUE WITH ME VOLUNTEERING MY TIME, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. AND YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW. DON'T, I'M JUST SAYING ANYONE DOES. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEER ISN'T THE ISSUE. I KNOW. YOU KNOW, BUT JUST ALL THAT'S A DEFLECTION AND A DISTRACTION. MARION, ALL THE DATES YOU'RE STATING ARE PRIOR TO MY TENURE AS A SOFTBALL COMMISSIONER. SO GO RIGHT AHEAD. NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED. I DIDN'T SERVE ON, SO LET, LET CONTINUE. LEMME CONTINUE. LET ME CONTINUE. SURE. SO ON THE SCHEDULE BS THAT, ARE THERE ANY DONATION OVER 5,000 NEEDS TO BE, NEEDS TO BE DISCLOSED. AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. THEY'RE NOT. WHICH ONE IS NOT? NONE OF THEM. NONE OF THEM HAVE IT. NONE OF 'EM HAVE ANY, ANY DONATION OVER $5,000. I DON'T THINK THIS COMMENT ON AN ORGANIZATION OF WHICH YOU HAVE NO CONTROL. YOU'RE, YOU'RE HANDING ME, YOU'RE HANDING US STACKS OF PAPER AND TELLING US THINGS ALWAYS. I'M ASKING TO HAVE IT PUT ON RECORD. YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLAIMING FACTS WHEN YOU'RE HANDING US STACKS OF PAPER, WHICH WE'VE STATED TO YOU FOR MONTHS. NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS IN PUBLIC. YOU CAN COME TO US PRIOR TO THIS. WHY WOULD I DO THAT AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS? WHY WOULD I DO THAT? WHY WOULD YOU NOT HAVE A, A CONVERSATION WITH THIS MIKE? WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6TH, 2026? OKAY, I'M GONNA LET YOU FINISH THAT. WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6TH, 2026? THIS IS, I KNOW WE'RE IN A COURTROOM, BUT WE'RE, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T COURT. YOU, YOU ASKED, GIMME A QUESTION. I'M ASKING YOU ONE BACK. I'M ASKING YOU TO COME TO US. AND I SAID, WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6TH? WHY WOULDN'T I COME TO YOU? OKAY, YOU, YOU TELL US WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE WERE THOROUGHLY SURPRISED AND HOPEFUL. AND THEN ON JANUARY, 2020 SIXTH, THERE WERE ACTIONS TAKEN TO APPOINT CERTAIN PEOPLE TO THE BOARD WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC NOTICE, AGAINST OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS. AND THAT IS WHEN I LOST MY FAITH AND I HAD HAD FAITH. AND THEN IT'S LIKE, YOU WANT ME TO COME TO YOU? YET, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THERE'S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE OR REASON AND NOTHING EVER GOES ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE DEVELOPER. SO EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO ACCOMPLISH BY COMING TO YOU? WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HELP THE TOWN? BECAUSE THE TOWN, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, ALLEGEDLY HAS BEEN SOLD OUT. SO THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS. LET'S JUST TAKE FOR INSTANCE, UM, ON THE NINE NINETIES, THERE'S A SECTION THAT ANY, ANY CONTRACTOR THAT RECEIVED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT NEEDED TO BE LISTED, IT'S NOT ON ANY OF 'EM. AND YOU HAD $125,000 FOR BASEBALL BACKFIELD, UH, I'M SORRY, YOU HAD THREE PROJECTS. SOD REPLACEMENT, 125,000, BASEBALL BACKFIELD, A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 212,000 FOR HARTFORD CROSSING. NONE OF IT'S DISCLOSED. AND IT HAS TO BE NONE OF THE, NONE OF IT. THE NONE OF THE DONORS. IT'S PRIVATE. PRIVATE. YET WE'VE GOT POLITICIANS IN THAT ORGANIZATION THAT ARE MAKING DECISIONS WITH THE WHO IT IS. IT IS. ANYBODY SAYING IT, WHETHER [01:30:01] IT WAS DR HORTON OR NOT, WHO WAS IT? WHY ISN'T IT DISCLOSED? IF IT WASN'T A PROBLEM, WHY ISN'T IT DISCLOSED IT? YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION'S NINE. I'M ASKING YOU, YOU WERE PART OF IT. I WAS. OKAY, I'M ASKING YOU DIRECTLY. YOU KNOW WHO IT WAS. I HAVE NO IDEA. I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE. NINE E-R-I-E-R-I THEY DON'T WANNA DISCLOSE WHO IT WAS. IT'S IN THEIR BUT PRIVATE DONOR. PRIVATE DONOR. SO YOU GOT I, MR. NOEL AND YOU, I CAN GET THE DOCUMENTS IF YOU WANT. LOOK, I'M NOT PULLING ANY PUNCHES. AN OUTSIDE, AN OUTSIDE AGENCY HAS GOTTA COME IN AND LOOK AT METFORD. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. IT'S NOT RIGHT. AND I'M SURE I'M GONNA BE THE ONE THAT GETS CUT OFF. SO I HAVE STATED WHAT I'VE STATED. I CAN GO THROUGH, I HAVE, I EVEN HAVE THE PRINTOUT FROM THE MYAA, I THINK IT'S DISGRACEFUL THAT WE HAVE A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS KIDS. AND THEY WERE USED AND YOU'VE GOT 400 VOLUNTEERS POURING THEIR HEART OUT AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE QUESTIONS SERVICING BECAUSE OF POLITICS AND DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU'VE GOT ME STANDING HERE WITH MY LAST BIT OF ENERGY GOING, THIS ISN'T RIGHT. IT'S NOT RIGHT. AND I'VE GOT MR. AMBA, I'VE GOT YOU GOING. OH, YOU'RE WRONG, MARYANNE. OH, YOU GOT YOUR FACTS WRONG. I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER AN ATTORNEY. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. THERE ARE GOING TO BE NOMENCLATURE IN THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OFF. I'M NOT WRONG. I CAN GO THROUGH A LIST. YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT'S WRONG, INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING THE PUBLIC ON THINGS. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG. AND I CAN GO THROUGH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TELL YOU WHAT YOU MISLEAD THE PUBLIC ON IN ALLEGEDLY INTENTIONALLY. SO IF YOU WANT ME TO START THAT LIST, I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD I GOT IT WITH ME. SO I'M NOT GOING THIS WAY. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE ADVERSARIAL. I REALLY DON'T. BUT UNLESS IT IS ADVERSARIAL, NOTHING GETS DONE. I DON'T, AND THAT'S THE SAD PART ABOUT ALL THIS. I SAY, OH, COME TO ME, SEND ME AN EMAIL. AND I CAN'T, WHEN I DID, NOTHING HAPPENED. IT JUST GOT SWEPT AND THINGS JUST WENT IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO, TO GO IN. AND ALL OF MY ENERGY AND TIME AND EFFORT WAS FOR NAUGH. OKAY? SO THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL THAT IS, I THINK IT'S A FACT. I'VE GOT MICHELLE AND RAY THAT WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO LISTEN. I'VE GOT YOU GOING INTO WINGATE AND TELLING SENIOR CITIZENS WITH EXTENSIONS THAT THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE DEEDS. ISN'T IT IRONIC, MARION, THAT 1.3 MILLION IS THE EXACT AMOUNT YOU NEEDED FOR THOSE FACED LIE ACCUSATIONS. IT'S NOT, I HAD PEOPLE, PEOPLE CALL ME AND TELL ME. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. YOU, YOU'RE STANDING UP IN PUBLIC. I AM INTENT. YOU, YOU'VE COME HERE TONIGHT AND THE THINGS YOU'RE STATING ARE LIES. TELL ME HOW TO LIE LIES. WHY ARE YOU COMING TO OUR MEETINGS AND STATING THINGS THAT ARE YOUR OPINION? IT'S NOT AS FACTUAL. I'M, I'M ASKING YOU THAT. WHY DO YOU, WHY DO YOU COME TO OUR MEETINGS AND STATE YOUR OPINIONS AS FACTS AND EXPECT US TO DEFEND THEM? YOU DID NOT SAY THAT. THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE DE I SAID IT'S ON RECORD AND IT'S ON TAPE. I SAID, DID YOU NOT SAY IT? I WAS THERE WITH BETHANY. CORRECT. YOU AND I WERE THERE. THE, OR THE, UH, THE, UH, COA FUND. THE COA FUND. THERE'S NO CURRENT MONEY IN THE, YOU DON'T NEED A COA FUND, DO YOU, MIKE? OH, SEE THESE ARE, DO YOU, DO YOU NEED IT OR DO OR COULD YOU BOND IT? AND THEN I MADE THAT STATEMENT THAT WE WOULD GO TO ANY LENGTH IF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WERE VALID TO DRIVE DOWN THE NUMBER OF THE FOURTH ROUND OBLIGATION THAT WE WOULD GO TO ANY LENGTH TO DRIVE THAT NUMBER DOWN. WE HAVE TWO SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT INVITED YOU TO DCA THAT'S TRUE. TO INVESTIGATE. AND NOT ONLY DID WE UNDERSTAND IT TO BE FACTUAL, BUT THEY BACKED IT UP THAT THOSE DEEP RESTRICTIONS WOULD NOT HELP US IN THIS ROUND. SO RATHER THAN BOND MONEY THAT WOULDN'T HELP THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD, THEY WOULD HELP THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD. OKAY. THOSE 60 FAMILIES WOULD NOT IS BE WORRIED RIGHT NOW YOUR WELL UP MARYANNE, I'M SORRY. I'M YOUR TIME IS UP THIS MEETING. MIKE, YOU DON'T DO THAT TO ME. AND BY THE WAY, IT'S NOT YOUR MEETING, IT'S THE PUBLIC'S MEETING COMPLETE. THE DCA ALREADY STATED THAT THE D RESTRICTIONS WILL NOT HELP IN THIS ROUND. WE'VE BEEN INFORMED BY DCA THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANOTHER PHONE CALL WITH US THAT MS. HOLLOWAY IS ON THE PHONE CALL. I'M SURE YOU DID. I'M SURE YOU DID. YOU'RE A NON-MEMBER RESIDENT INTERFERING I'M A TAXPAYER. OKAY. YOU'RE INTERFERING I'M A TAXPAYER. THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE INTERFERING AT THIS POINT WITH THE, THE PROGRESS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE TO SATISFY OR YOU WERE THE FOURTH ROUND OBLIGATION. IT'S BEEN SATISFIED. WE HAVE THE LEFT. I'M NOT TALKING MIKE, LET ME, LET ME SAY SOMETHING. NO, LET ME SAY SOMETHING. LET ME BE BRIAN CORRIN FOR A MINUTE, MINUTE. YEAH. MAR I'M GONNA IMPLORE YOU TO SIT DOWN OR WHERE [01:35:01] CHIEF IS GONNA HAVE TO ESCORT YOU OUT. SO I'M NOT BRIAN. RIGHT. ONLY GONE 10 MINUTES NOW I'M, I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING AND THEN I'M GOING, OH MY GOD. THE 1.3 DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THE FOURTH. IT COULD HAVE GONE TOWARDS THE FAMILIES. YOU COULD HAVE EXTENDED THOSE DEEDS AND PROTECTED THOSE PEOPLE. WE COULD NOT HAVE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN'T DECIDE. IT WAS A NEGOTIATED ITEM THAT WAS PUT INTO THAT AGREEMENT THAT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS NEGOTIATED FROM BEING 1.8 TO 1.3 WITH 450,000 GO AS, AS SCHOLARSHIPS AND, AND, UH, ITEMS TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOT LISTED IN THE ONE POINT 0.3. SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE GOTTEN THE, THE OTHER CONSENTING PARTY TO AGREE TO THEN USE THE 1.3 FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING TO BE USED FOR. SO IT WOULD BE FACTUALLY INACCURATE FOR MRS. HOLLOWAY TO STATE THAT THE TOWNSHIP COULD JUST REALLY USED THE 1.3 FOR SOME OTHER ITEM OTHER THAN WHAT WAS SPELLED OUT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT ROOM. MR. MAYOR? YEAH, PLEASE. JUST FOR THE, FOR THE NINE IN REFERENCE TO THE NINE NINETIES, I MEAN, I, I'M, I HAVE TO DO NINE 90 NINETIES FOR MY NON-PROFITS THAT RIGHT WHERE I WORK. UH, BUT I ALSO, I DO WANNA SHARE THOUGH THAT IF, IF I WERE TO GIVE AN ORGANIZATION A CONTRIBUTION OF $10,000 AND WANT THAT TO BE ANONYMOUS, THEN I'M ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT THAT ORGANIZATION STILL NEEDS TO GIVE MY INFORMATION TO THE IRS. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT THE NYA DID THAT I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR OPERATIONS IN ANY FORM, QUITE HONESTLY. UH, BUT THAT COULD, BUT THERE IS A METHOD FOR DONORS TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS ON THE NINE 90, BUT THEIR INFORMATION STILL MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE IRS DIRECTLY. SO THROUGH THE NINE 90 THROUGH OTHER MEANS AND OTHER FILINGS WOULD THE IRS, BUT THE, ON THE I ON THE NINE 90, IT SAY IF I DONATE, I COULD STILL REMAIN ANONYMOUS TO MINE. THE INFORMATION DOES NOT APPEAR AS GIVING A DONATION. BUT IF THE IRS DID QUESTION THE NONPROFIT, THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THAT. THEY, REGARDLESS THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE IRS. RIGHT. JUST NOT ON THE NO. SO BASED OFF YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, AND I, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, IS THAT DOCUMENT SUFFICIENT BASED OFF THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED ON IT OR I, IT, IT IS, BUT THERE IS, THERE WILL BE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION THAT THE ORGANIZATION HAS PROVIDE UNDERST TO THE I TO THE IRS. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THIS, THESE FILINGS. I OBVIOUSLY I'VE REMOVED THAT FROM NOT FOR RIGHT AT ALL, QUITE HONESTLY. UH, BUT, BUT THERE IS A METHOD FOR INDIVIDUAL TO REMAIN A, NOT AN ANONYMOUS DONR TO A, A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. GREAT. GREAT. ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? THAT WAS IT. ALRIGHT. MOTION TO CLOSE. SO SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. SORRY IF WE GOT A LITTLE HEATED THERE. WE NOW WILL DO CLERK'S REPORT. NONE. WOW. OKAY. AND ON TO BILL'S LIST. [X. BILL LIST ] WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 10TH AND SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026. ANY QUESTION ON THE BILLS LIST? MOTION APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. BILLS LISTS ARE APPROVED. WE NOW HAVE AN AN ORDINANCE [XI. ORDINANCES FOR INTRODUCTION ] FOR INTRODUCTION. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO INTRODUCE ORDINANCE 2026 DASH 18? I MOVE THAT. COUNSEL INTRODUCE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE 2026 SLASH 18 ADOPTING A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR NON-CON CONDEMNATION REDEVELOPMENT AREA CONSISTING OF BLOCK 1705 LOT SIX AND SEVEN. ALSO KNOWN AS 39 ALLEN AVENUE. I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR APPROVAL BEFORE ITS ADOPTION TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN. PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OCTOBER 6TH. WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE. UM, MR. MAYOR, JUST ONE, ONE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE GO TO ROLL CALL. I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT THIS HAS BEEN ADJUSTED WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. 'CAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD AGENDA HAS THIS LISTED AS A REHABILITATION PLAN VERSUS A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE DID STATE IT. UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR WE ALIGNMENT OBJECTION TO THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, SECRETARY. THAT SHE'S, IT'S TECHNICALLY A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. NO, NO. SHE CALLED REHABIL. YEAH. ON THE, ON THE PLAN BOARD, ON THE PLAIN BOARD AGENDA FOR TOMORROW NIGHT. SO THIS SAYS A REHABILITATION PLAN. SHE CALLED REHABILITATION PLAN FOR 5, 4, 1 AND, AND FOUR THE SAME. YEAH. SO, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YES, UM, THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW EVENING STILL SHOWS REHABILITATION PLAN, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PUBLISHED AND CHANGED. SO ITEM RESOLUTION 16 DASH 26 IS STILL ON THE WEBSITE AS STATED REHAB, BUT THIS, THEY ARE TAKING THIS ORDINANCE, THIS ORDINANCE CLEARLY STATES RE REDEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS A CONTROLLING DOCUMENT, NOT WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT SHOULD BE REFLECTED ON THE AGENDA AS WELL. AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S VERBALLY SPREAD ON THE GROUND. THANK, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BOTH ALIGNED FOR [01:40:01] THIS. THIS IS YOUR CONTROLLING DOCUMENT. UH, AND THIS IS THE CONTROLLING DOCUMENT WHICH WILL BE SENT TO THE PLAN COURT FOR CONSIDERATION. UM, SO IT SUPERSEDES WHATEVER SHE LISTS ON HER. THE ITEM BUDGET REALLY SHOULD BE CORRECTED TO, TO SHOW THE ACCURACY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. YOU GOT IT. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO THIS ORDINANCE FOR INTRODUCTION? SEEING NONE, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE. MS. SANTO? YES. MR. COX? YES. MS. MILL. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR EE AYE. MAYOR. AYE. ALL RIGHT. SO AS AGAIN AS I STATED PUBLIC HEARING OCTOBER 6TH OF FOR A SECOND. UH, SO NOW WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES [XII. ORDINANCES FOR SECOND READING/PUBLIC HEARING(S) ] FOR A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE 20 26, 16. SURE. I MOVE THAT. COUNCIL ADOPT ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2026 DASH 16 AMENDING AND SUPPLEMENTING ARTICLE FIVE OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO CREATE THE NEW SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFORD. OKAY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND? YES. YES. OKAY. ALL OF US. OKAY, GREAT. ALRIGHT. , THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW FOR A NEW COMMITTEE THAT WILL ADVERTISE, UH, SORRY, SORRY. WILL ADVISE SENIORS OF AVAILABLE GOODS AND SERVICES AND INVESTIGATE HOUSING NEEDS OF SENIOR CITIZENS. THEY HAVE NO DECISION MAKING POWER. INTRODUCTION WILL BE SEPTEMBER 1ST FOR THIS ORDINANCE. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. CORRECT. THE SECOND, OH, IT WAS, EXCUSE ME, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING. YEAH. YEAH. SO I GOT IT NOW. I FIGURED IT OUT THERE. THIS IS, WE'RE ON THE SECOND ONE. UM, SO PROCEDURALLY WE NEED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT ON ORDINANCE 20 26, 16. SAME. NO. MOTION TO CLOSE. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE NEED ROLL CALL FOR ADOPTION. OKAY, MS. SANMAR, MY VOICE IS GONE. MR. CO. THANK YOU. THE COUNCILMAN SANTI MOORE. I ACT EXCITEDLY SAY AYE. MS. MILL. AYE. MAYOR . AYE. MAYOR C AYE. ALRIGHT. UH, CONGRATULATIONS. ORDINANCE 20 26 16 IS APPROVED. SO NOW WE MOVE TO ORDINANCE 2026 DASH 17. I MOVE THAT COUNSEL ADAPT ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2026 DASH 17 AMENDING CHAPTER 19, LENGTH OF SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM AND CHAPTER 71, FEES AND LICENSES TO ENHANCE INCENTIVES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY VOLUNTEERS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND EMS MEMBERS TO HAVE AUTOMATIC ANNUAL CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ADJUSTMENTS. OKAY. UM, HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL OPEN IT UP. PUBLIC HEARING SAY NO ONE. MOTION TO CLOSE. SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. RULE CALL MS. SANBORN. YES, MR. COX? AYE. MS. MILL AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR BOARD AYE. MAYORS AYE. ALRIGHT. ORDINANCE 20 26 17 IS APPROVED AND NOW WE WILL MOVE [XIII. CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS] TO CONSENT. AGENDA. I WILL BE OMITTING 1 69, 1 71, 73 AND 1 74. PERFECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. RESOLUTION 1 62 20 26 AUTHORIZING THE AWARD OF CONTRACT TO SHANNON CHEMICAL COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT UP TO $15,000 FOR THE SUPPLY AND DELIVERY OF CORROSIVE INHIBITOR FOR THE MEFFORD TOWNSHIP WATER UTILITY RESOLUTION 1 63 20 26 AMENDING RESOLUTION 38 20 24 APPOINTING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND DEPUTY COORDINATORS RESOLUTION 1 64 20 26 AMENDING RESOLUTION 38 20 24 APPOINTING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND DEPUTY COORDINATORS RESOLUTION 1 65 20 26 AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF ONE TOYOTA. CLASS FOUR. MODEL 50 DASH EIGHT FGC 35 U FORKLIFT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND MUNICIPAL UTILITIES RESOLUTION 1 66 20 26 AUTHORIZING REFUND OF ERRONEOUS 2026 UTILITY PAYMENTS RESOLUTION 1 67 20 26 AUTHORIZING REFUND OF 2026. TAX OVERPAYMENTS RESOLUTION 1 68 20 26 AUTHORIZING CANCELLATION OF FINAL 2026. PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY 2027 PROPERTY TAXES ON PROPERTIES OWNED BY QUALIFIED TOTALLY DISABLED VETERANS RESOLUTION 1 71 20 26 APPOINTING MUNICIPAL JOINT INSURANCE FUND COMMISSIONER, ALTERNATE FUND COMMISSIONER CLAIMS COORDINATOR, SAFETY COORDINATOR. I, SORRY. IT'S ALL GOOD. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SORRY. UM, I WAS ON RULE THERE. NO, IT WAS ISSUES WITH THE LIVE STREAM. OH, OKAY. HEARING. SORRY. ALRIGHT. UM, RESOLUTION 1 72 20 26 AUTHORIZED AN AT TOWNSHIP MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DISCHARGE OF A MORTGAGE AND A NOTE FOR THE PREMISES [01:45:01] KNOWN AS 49 MONTCLAIR ROAD BLOCK. 4 0 3 0 3 LOT. 4 42 42 9 49 42 MONTCLAIR. YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT ROAD. UM, IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP AND I BELIEVE SKIPPING. SO THOSE WERE ALL THE CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THOSE CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS? NO. SEEING NONE. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WILL VOTE. MS. SANDBORN? YES. MR. COX? AYE. MS. MILL? AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR WAR AYE. MAYOR SUSAN. AYE. ALRIGHT, SO THE ORIGINAL CONSENT AND AGENDA RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED. WE NOW HAVE THE FOUR [XIII.8. Resolution 169-2026 – Authorizing a One Year Contract Extension with Adler Excavating for Hazardous Tree Removal Services in an Amount Not to Exceed $62,350] RESOLUTIONS PULLED FROM CONSENT AGENDA PREVIOUS IN THE MEETING. I'LL READ THEM ONE AT A TIME. CORRECT. OKAY. SO RESOLUTION 1 69 20 26 AUTHORIZING A ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH ADLER EXCAVATING FOR HAZARDOUS TREE REMOVAL SERVICES AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $62,350. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL ON THAT? MR. MAYOR? I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. UM, IN TERMS OF THE EXTENSION VERSUS GOING OUT TO REBID OR KIND OF FOREGOING, UM, THE SERVICE RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THE COST AND UTILIZING OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND, AND OR UTILIZING EMERGENCY PURCHASING PROCEDURES IN THE EVENT THAT WE WERE IN NEED, WERE IN NEED OF A TREE REMOVAL AFTER A STORM OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. I, I JUST HAVE GREAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE OVERALL EXPENSE, UH, GIVEN OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL, UH, SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN CURRENTLY. IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD USE FOR SHARED SERVICES BECAUSE, UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL EMAILS GIVEN TO US, TO THE MANAGER'S OFFICE FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. SO JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, THESE ITEMS COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AS A RECOMMENDATION TO, TO GO TO US, UH, TO PUT TO COUNSEL. UM, THE CONTRACT ENDS AT THE END OF THE MONTH, SO WE WOULD NEED TO, UH, BID OUT. WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO BID OUT IN ORDER TO DO OCTOBER 6TH. UM, WE HAVE TOLD THE DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT WE NEED TO GET THESE MAYBE A LITTLE SOONER, UM, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE SOME TIME. BUT I WOULD STATE THAT THIS WAS PUT OUT AND FIRST ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN THE, IN 2024 ECONOMY OF SCALES BETWEEN THAT AND NOW, UM, WHEN LOOKING AT, UH, IN THE ONE EMAIL, UH, THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IS 36,600, UM, IS FOR THIS YEAR. UM, THE PRIOR YEAR WAS 44,550 IN THE PRIOR YEAR BEFORE THAT 43,500. UM, SO IT IS LESSER THAN THAN THAT. SO THERE IS THE DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD. WE PUT OUT A BID, WE OFFER TWO YEAR, TWO ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS. UM, AND EACH YEAR YOU HAVE TO EXTEND IT. WE COULD PUT IT OUT THE BID WE COULD GET WITH GAS PRICES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE COULD GET A, UH, A COMPETING BID AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THE LOWEST BIDDER, UM, THAT MIGHT NOT BE AT THIS, UH, UH, AMOUNT THAT WE ARE, WE ARE GETTING FROM THE CONTRACT. SO I, IT, IT REALLY IS, IS KIND OF AN ITEM THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE TAKE OFFENSE TO EITHER WAY. IT'S A RE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO CONTINUE TO USE THAT SERVICE. WE WILL EXCEED, UM, OUR ABILITY AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO IT HAS TO BE BID NEXT YEAR. THAT IS, THAT IS, UH, 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE EXTENSIONS LEFT. UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IT, THIS IS FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY. UM, THIS COMPANY I KNOW WAS USED PRIOR FOR BRUSH PICKUP, FOR BACKUP AND, AND FOR LEAF PICKUP AS A BACKUP. UM, THOSE ITEMS WERE ACTUALLY REMOVED FROM THE 2025 BUDGET. 'CAUSE IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE 25 BUDGET COULD, UH, HANDLE. AND WE WERE PLEA, I'M SORRY, MY THROATS BOTHERING. YEP. WE WERE PLEASED WITH THEIR SERVICE. I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF IT. I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ASK, UH, MR. COPP, OUR, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, IF THERE'S ANY COMPLAINTS. BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYS COME TO YOU, BUT WHAT'S THE LEGITIMATE QUESTION? YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY, SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT I WOULD, I CAN REQUEST TO HEAR IF THERE WAS, I JUST, JUST FOR ME, I WANTED TO PULLED OUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS OF RFPS OF, AND I'M DEFINITELY NEW. SO I WANTED THAT EXPLAINED. UM, AND I HAD BEEN UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DID NOT WORK FOR US, EXCEPT NOW I REALIZE IN THIS EMERGENCY CAPACITY. AND I THINK YOUR POINT ABOUT THE PHYSICALITY IS HUGE. UM, THE CONTRACT THAT WE WERE OFFERED THREE YEARS AGO, I THINK WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER. AND FOR ME, FISCALLY, I WILL END UP APPROVING THIS. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING TO APPROVE IT. UM, THREE YEARS AGO, THINGS WERE NOT AS EXPENSIVE AS THEY ARE TODAY. SO FOR ME, THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS OUT. THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. BUT I THOUGHT IF I HAD QUESTIONS, OTHER PEOPLE MAY AS WELL. I, I, MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU WOULD BE WE ARE HEADING IN, WELL WE ARE ALREADY [01:50:01] IN HURRICANE SEASON, SO, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DOES COME OUT AND DOES DO SOME OF THIS WORK. MM-HMM . BUT THIS IS AN EMERGENCY BASIS. WE COULD HAVE, AND I I KNOW CHIEF AS OUR OEM MM-HMM . GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WE COULD HAVE STRAIGHT LINE WINDS THAT TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL BLOCKS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE A WOODED COMMUNITY. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DPW EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT WE CAN DEPLOY OUT TO, TO CLEAR OUT THE STREETS. SO I WAS GONNA SAY SOME, SOME OF THE WORK THAT, UM, THIS, THIS PROVIDER WOULD DO IS WORK THAT OUR DPW CANNOT DO. RIGHT. SPECIFICALLY AROUND POWER LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE DPW ARE NOT CAPABLE OF. UM, AND LARGER, LIKE LARGER SIZED TREES, LARGER DIAMETER TREES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BLOCK A ROADWAY OR BE ENTANGLED IN THINGS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND THIS EMERGENCY TREE SERVICE. IT'S NOT TO DO THE ROUTINE WORK THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS ON, YOU KNOW, UM, PERSONNEL DO ON A DAILY BASIS, CLEARING TREES. THIS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY A LARGE TREE THAT EXCEEDS OUR CAPABILITIES OR SOMETHING ENTANGLED IN WIRES THAT OUR, OUR PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL ARE NOT PERMITTED TO, TO DO. PERFECT. DO OFFHAND, AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, ARE, ARE THERE SURROUNDING COMMUN MUNICIPALITIES THAT WE MAYBE HAVE ABLE TO HAVE A SHARED SERVICE WITH FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE? OR IS THIS KIND OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF MANY D PWS? YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, MOST, MOST OF YOUR MUNICIPALITIES, I BELIEVE HAVE EMERGENCY TREE SERVICES. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU GO FOR, FOR FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT, HAVING THIS CONTRACT OR RESOLUTION IN PLACE THAT ESTABLISHES A CONTRACT MAKES REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO US A LOT EASIER. UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE FEMA DOES REIMBURSE ON TREE, TREE, LIMB SIZE, TREE DIAMETER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I CAN TELL YOU FOR SOUTHAMPTON, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE THAT DOES. SO IT'S ALL CONTRACT CONTRACT SERVICES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME WE'D LIKE TO VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION ONLY, CORRECT? I THINK WE SO THE MOTION SECOND FIRST? YEAH. YEAH. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY. AND NOW WE WILL DO ROLL CALL VOTE MS. . YES. MR. COX? NO. MS. MILL. AYE. A MORE AYE. MAYOR SUSAN. AYE. ALRIGHT. SO RESOLUTION 1 69 IS APPROVED. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO [XIII.9. Resolution 170-2026 - Authorizing a Contract with ERI for Sewer Treatment Plant Improvement Engineering Services in an Amount Not to Exceed $495,500 ] RESOLUTION ONE 70 AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH ERI FOR SEWER TREATMENT, PLANT IMPROVEMENT ENGINEERING SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 495,500. MR. MAYOR, I ASK THAT THIS, UH, RESOLUTION BE PULLED, UH, AS, AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE'VE HEARD MUCH TALK ABOUT THE SEWER SYSTEM GIVEN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. UH, SO I HAD SOME QUESTIONS. I WANNA THANK THE MANAGER'S OFFICE AS WELL AS MR. COP, UH, FOR PROVIDING SOME INFORMATION, UH, TO SUPPORT THIS, THIS RESOLUTION. UH, UNFORTUNATELY I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE THIS COUNCIL IS INHERITING, UH, INACTION FROM PRIOR COUNCILS AND PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS. UH, TO QUOTE MR. COPP, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS REPLACED PORTIONS OF THE TANK AND THAT, THAT ARE MEMBRANE LINER WITH CONCRETE AS WELL, UH, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. UM, ALSO HE STATES THAT THIS LINER, THE LINERS OF THE SEWER SYSTEM LAST ABOUT 20 YEARS. AND THE LAST TIME THE LINER WAS, WAS REPLACED WAS IN 1999, 2000. AND THE LINER FAILED IN 2020. AND HE ALSO REFERENCES THAT THIS GOES WITH DECADES OF INACTION AND INATTENTION BY PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS AND PRIOR COUNCILS. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SADDLED HERE ONCE AGAIN WITH FUNDING, UM, THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'RE BEING FORCED TO ADDRESS MATTERS THAT, UH, AS A RESULT OF INACTION. UH, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE HIGH COST AND HIGH TICKET PRICES THAT COME WITH THESE ITEMS, BUT THESE ARE NECESSARY. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH ON IS THE RATIONALE, UH, AND THE NEED TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE TANK, UH, FROM 500,000 GALLONS UP TO 650,000 GALLONS. UM, AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. NOLL, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE INSIGHT ON THAT. SO AS THE FLOW OF THE, UH, THE SEWER TO THE PLANT INCREASES AND GETS CLOSEST, CLOSER TO ITS MAXIMUM CAPACITY, THEN THE NEED FOR THE EQUALIZATION TANK, WHICH TAKES OVERFLOW AND EQUALIZES WHEN YOU HAVE LARGE FLOWS BY STORMS, INFLOWING INFILTRATION, THAT TYPE OF THING, YOU'LL NEED ADDITIONAL STORAGE TO TO HANDLE THAT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY SO UP UNTIL THIS POINT WE'VE BEEN OKAY WITHOUT DOING THE TANK. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY MAYBE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE. WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 1979, IT WAS A TEMPORARY TANK AND THEN [01:55:01] IT WAS SURVIVING BARELY. AND THEN IN 2020 IT WASN'T SURVIVING. WE WERE ABLE TO GET BY WITH A COUPLE OF DRY, DRY YEARS, BUT EVENTUALLY WE NEEDED IT. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE IT, IT'S GOTTA BE DONE. SURE. NO AB ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I, SO IN TERMS OF FUNDING, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE APPROVING, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN, IN FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WITH THE TOTAL PROJECT ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND 3.6 MILLION. HOW IS THIS PROJECT BEING FUNDED THROUGH? ARE WE BONDING FOR THIS? IS THIS PART OF THE BONDING THAT WE ALREADY DID? NO. SO, OR THERE'S ABOUT 1.1 MILLION IN VARIOUS PRIOR YEAR ORDINANCES THAT ARE ASSISTING IN THIS. WHAT YOU ARE GETTING FROM MR. NOLL IS A SOUP TO NUTS FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END PROPOSAL OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR HIS FIRM. CORRECT. MR. NOLL TO SUBMIT TO THE, THE TRUST FUND. YEAH. SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. YEAH. SO THIS IS TO SUBMIT ALSO THE TOWNSHIP IS LOOKING TO GO IN FOR FEDERAL GRANTS. MM-HMM . UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS. AND AT, IF YOU RECALL BACK FROM MY, UM, DEBT SERVICE PRESENTATION YOU SAW THAT THE TOWNSHIP HAS IN 20 26, 20 27, AND 2028. WE STAY ABOUT EVEN WITH OUR DEBT SERVICE PROJECTION, UM, FOR THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WE TAIL DOWN DRASTICALLY IN 2029 AND THEN WE TAIL DOWN IN 2030. AND THEN AT, IN 2031 IS WHEN WE KIND OF LEVEL OFF DOWN GOING FROM, UH, ROUGHLY 2.75 MILLION ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE DOWN TO 1.25. UH, AS YOU KNOW, WITH BO UH, BONDING FINANCING, YOU CAN DO A BAN. THE THREE YEARS INTEREST ONLY GETS US THAT. SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS, HAS KIND OF, OR THE MANAGER'S OFFICE WITH THE DPW DIRECTOR AND MR. NOEL, WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE WE DO BELIEVE, LET'S GET THE STUDIES DONE, LET'S APPLY. AND WHEN WE GO TO PUT THIS IN, IT'S GOING TO FIT IN. WHEN THE SLUMP STARTS HAPPENING, IT WILL FIT IN SO IT DOESN'T EXCEED THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT. SO WE KIND OF ARE HITTING THAT POINT. THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, STUDIES AND THINGS NEEDED. UM, WE NEED TO PUT IN FOR THE FEDERAL GRANTS, WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATION GRANT THAT HAPPENS AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR. UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE FISCAL YEAR FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STARTS IN OCTOBER. UM, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD SUBMIT TO TRY AND OFFSET COSTS, UM, IN THIS. BUT IT'S, IT'S FITTING INTO THAT SLUMP THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THAT DEBT SERVICE PRESENTATION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. AND MY, MY LAST QUESTION, UH, IS MR. MR. COP REFERENCES A $6.5 MILLION EIT LOAN. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE? WHAT THAT WOULD BE? I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. OKAY. THAT'S THE, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS OF THIS PROPOSAL WAS TO SUBMIT FOR THE EIT LOAN AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR.DESIGN COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE YEAR IN ORDER TO, UH, BE ELIGIBLE FOR A EIT LOAN IN 2027. AND WHAT DOES THE IT STAND FOR? UH, ENVIRONMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE TRUST LOAN. THANK YOU. SO, AND THEIR, THEIR RATE AT AN EIT LOAN IS, UH, HALF IS AT 0% AND HALF IS AT MARKET RATE. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY GAINING 50% IF YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, UM, FORGIVENESS OF THE LOAN, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE MEDFORD WILL BE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, FINANCIAL, UH, THE INCOME SITUATION IN MEDFORD. YOU CAN GET SOME OF THAT, UH, FORGIVEN. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, UH, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN APPROACHED BY CORY BOOKER'S OFFICE AND HERB CONWAY'S OFFICE ABOUT FEDERAL MONEY. WE'VE APPLIED TO THAT. PRELIMINARILY, WE SUBMIT OUR APPLICATIONS AND THEY HAVE PUT IN PRELIMINARILY INTO BUDGET FOR BOOKER HAS PUT IN 2.95 MILLION AND CONWAY IS 768,000. IF WE DON'T HAVE AN APPROVAL FROM THE STATE, EIT, WE GET NONE OF THAT. OKAY. WE'RE NOT EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR THAT. SO WE WOULD GIVE THAT UP AND LIKE I SAID, ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE NECESSARY NO MATTER WHAT, WHO DID WHAT, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY, WHATEVER. AND WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THIS OFF FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND DO SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE A HIGHER PRIORITY. SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. THANK YOU, MR. UM. YES. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE 'EM, IT'S SO TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. BUT WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE TRUMPED THIS? THAT WE, THE RBCS, THE ROTATING BIOLOGICAL CONTACTORS, WE HAD TO BE REPLACED. UM, WE HAD GENERATORS THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED, WATER MAIN, UM, PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS. THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE PARK PUMP STATION, WHICH HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN YEARS, BUT WE HAD TO, WE ELIMINATED THE, UH, PUMP STATION ON GOTYOU DRIVE, THE HEMLINE ROAD PROJECT. MM-HMM. THAT TYPE OF THING. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT A HIGH HAD A HIGHER PRIORITY. AND, AND THIS TIMING FALLS IN WITH OUR DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE POTENTIALLY FALLING OFF AS MR. MBED STATED. PERFECT. OKAY. [02:00:01] UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR RESOLUTION 1 70 20 26? NOW SAY NONE. NEED A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND. OKAY. ROLL CALL. WE STAND. MARK. MR. AYE, MS. MILL. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR . AYE. MAYOR AYE. ALRIGHT. RESOLUTION ONE 70 IS PASSED. OUR NEXT [XIII.12. Resolution 173-2026 – Removing Deed Restriction on Block 401, Lots 10.02, 10.04 and 12 Imposed by the Planning Board ] RESOLUTION IS 1 73 20 26. REMOVING DE RESTRICTIONS ON BLOCK 4 0 1 LOT, 10.2, 10.02, 10.04 AND 12 IMPOSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. SO I ASK THAT THIS WOULD BE PULLED JUST SO THAT WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANT. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY QUESTIONS AROUND DEEDS AND DEEDS RESTRICTIONS, SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE AN OVERVIEW. SURE. UM, SO WE RECEIVED A, UH, AN EMAIL FROM, UH, A, UH, ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON BEHALF OF, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER ASKING THAT. UH, WE DIRECTED ASKING MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO DIRECT DE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING THE EXISTING DEED RESTRICTION ON 4 0 1 LOT 10.02, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES OF, UH, A USE VARIANCE SUBDIVISION APPLICATION. AND, UH, WE FORWARDED THIS TO OUR TOWNSHIP PROFESSIONALS, UH, OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE PLANNER AND THE ENGINEER. THEY ALL SAID THAT THERE WAS NO REASON THAT WE SHOULD NOT REMOVE THIS, THIS DEED RESTRICTION, UH, LEMME JUST SEE HERE. IF I GET THE LETTER TO OPEN, IT'S NOT GONNA OPEN THERE. UM, BUT THIS DEED RESTRICTION SET ASIDE A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AS A, I BELIEVE IT WAS A COMMON, COMMON USE DRIVEWAY AND COMMON USE AREA. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MR. NOEL. IT HA IT'S ON THE, UH, ON HARTFORD ROAD, ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE NEAR MOUNT LAUREL. SO THERE WAS A NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT, UH, GOT TOGETHER AND DID A SUBDIVISION AND THEN HAD, UH, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR ACCESS TO EACH OTHER'S PROPERTY. 'CAUSE THEY HAD A HORSE FARM THERE. THEY WANTED TO RIDE THEIR HORSES THROUGH EACH OTHER'S PROPERTY. WE HAVE A NEW PERSON THAT SOLD, OR A PERSON THAT SOLD TO A NEW PERSON. THEY DON'T WANT THAT ANYMORE. UM, IT REALLY IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE TO THE TOWNSHIP EFFORT. TOWNSHIP, WHETHER WE HAVE IT OR NOT, DOESN'T IMPACT US WHEN WE OR ANOTHER. SO, I, I, PERFECT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST HEAR THE WORD DEED RESTRICTION AND MM-HMM. UNDERSTAND. I THINK BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MUCH FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO I'D RATHER JUST HAVE IT ANSWER AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR HORSES. YEAH. . YES. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEED RESTRICTION. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THE QUESTIONS WILL ARISE, SO I'D RATHER PULL IT OUT AND HAVE IT ANSWERED. IT'LL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER IF IT IS EXTINGUISHED FOR EVERYBODY. BELIEVE. ALRIGHT, SO FOR THE SAKE OF THE HORSES, CAN I HAVE HORSES? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALRIGHT. UM, ROLL CALL. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. OH, ISAAC. BETHANY, BETHANY. AND SECOND. RIGHT. AND THEN RAY, NO NAMES NONE. MS. ? MR. COX? AYE. MS. BILL AYE. DEPUTY REPORT? AYE. MAYOR SAYS AYE. ALL RIGHT. RESOLUTION 1 73 IS PASSED. NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO RESOLUTION [XIII.13. Resolution 174-2026 – Authorizing Vacation of Fire Lane Easement in Favor of Medford Township on Portion of Real Property at Block 6205, Lot 5 ] 1 74 20 26 AUTHORIZING THE VACATION OF FIRE LANE EASEMENT IN FAVOR OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP ON PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY AT BLOCK 6 2 0 5 BLOCK FIVE. MR. MAYOR, I REQUESTED THIS, UH, RESOLUTION BE BE PULLED FROM THE SENATE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. UH, I, AS WE RECALL, A FEW MONTHS BACK, WE HAD A RESIDENT COME FORWARD ASKING FOR, UM, A REVIEW AND OF A EASEMENT AND POSSIBLE VACATION AND AN EASEMENT FOR THEIR PROPERTY. AND SO I WAS JUST, I WOULD LIKE SOME JUST INFORM IN CLARITY AND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THIS, UH, VACATING, THIS EASEMENT COMPARES TO THAT AND WHERE WE STAND, UM, IN, IN REVIEWING THAT, THAT RESIDENT'S REQUEST TO, UH, WHO CAME BEFORE US A FEW MONTHS BACK. SURE. SO, UH, SO THIS ONE CAME TO US FROM A RESIDENT, UM, OFF OF, UH, EAST CENTENNIAL DRIVE. UH, AGAIN, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE, UM, AT THE, THE REQUEST FROM THE RESIDENT. AND, UH, THERE NO LONGER IS A NEED FOR THIS SPECIFIC EASEMENT. IT WAS TO GET ACCESS BACK TO THE LAKE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT DRAFTING OPERATIONS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS A STRUCTURE FIRE AT THAT END OF, UH, THE COMMUNITY. UM, THIS IS NOT A EASEMENT THAT WE WOULD USE ANYMORE BECAUSE WE GENERALLY DRAFT FROM DAMS OR, UH, OR OTHER AREAS, OR THERE HAVE BEEN HYDRANTS INSTALLED IN THAT AREA. UM, SO THERE WAS NO LONGER A NEED FOR THIS. UM, AGAIN, I SENT IT TO OUR PROFESSIONALS, THEY REVIEWED IT AND THEY AGREED THAT, UH, THERE WAS NO LONGER A NEED FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS EASEMENT. AND THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS IS A FIRE LANE, RIGHT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY A, THAT WAS A FULL STREET IN THE SITUATION OF MR. COX GREENLAND. SO THE FIRE LANE IS A DIFFERENT STANDARD, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT, I MEAN THIS GOES BACK ALONG THE, THE, THE RESIDENCE PROPERTY BACK TO THE LAKE. UM, WHEREAS THE O THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS ASKED TO BE [02:05:01] VACATED WAS A PHYSICAL PAPER STREET ON, ON THE MAP. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ONE IN TON LAKES. YES. YES, YES. THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION. RIGHT? IF I COULD ADD TO THAT. SO THE ADJOINING LOT HAS ACTUALLY 20 FOOT FIRE EASEMENT ON IT. SO THE WHOLE FIRE EASEMENT FROM CENTENNIAL DOWN TO CENTENNIAL LAKE. CENTENNIAL DRIVE EAST DOWN TO CENTENNIAL IS 20 FOOT WIDE ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. AND THEN IT FLARES OUT AT THE LAKE ON BOTH SIDES, ABOUT 20 BY 25. THAT'S, AND SO THIS EASEMENT THAT'S ON LOT FIVE IS ONLY 20 FEET BY 25 FEET. THAT'S ALL THAT IS. AND WHERE DO WE STAND ON THE REVIEW OF THE TWAN LAKE PROPERTY? SO, EXCUSE, UM, I KNOW THERE, THERE'S AN OPEN GC OKAY. MM-HMM . BUT I PROBABLY SAY WE'RE NOT. OKAY. YEAH. FOLLOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. IN REFERENCE TO RESOLUTION 1 74 20 26. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. SO MOVED. YOU, YOU JUST GOT A SECOND. OKAY. MS. SAN MOORE? YES. MR. COX? AYE. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR. AYE. MAYOR AYE. RESOLUTION 1 74 20 26 IS APPROVED. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO EXECUTIVE [XIV. EXECUTIVE SESSION ] SESSION RESOLUTION ES OH 9 2 2 20 26 4 TOPICS MATTERS RELATED TO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. LITIGATION MATTERS RELATED TO CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, LITIGATION MATTERS RELATED TO PERSONNEL AND MATTERS MATTERS RELATED TO PERSONNEL, PUBLIC BODY APPOINTMENTS. DO I HAVE A MOTION OF PROOF? IT'S ALMOST SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. WILL BE AN EXECUTIVE FOR FOUR TIME, 30 MINUTES. PROBABLY AN HOUR. AN HOUR OR SO. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY. UM, WILL ACTION BE TAKEN? ACTION WILL NOT BE TAKEN. ACTION WILL NOT BE TAKEN. UM, WE WILL, UH, RECONVENE THE OPEN PORTION ONCE WE'RE DONE IN EXECUTIVE. THANK YOU ALL. UM, I'M GONNA RECONVENE THE OPEN PORTION OF THE PUBLIC MEETING. UH, WE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING ON THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA. NO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH. AYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.