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[1.Convening of Meeting ]
WELCOME TO THE MAY 20TH, 2026 MEDFORD TOWNSHIP ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING.UH, PURSUANT TO THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT NOTICE THAT THIS MEETING HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE BURLINGTON COUNTY TIMES, HAS BEEN PROMINENTLY POSTED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD IN THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING, AND ON THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE, MEDFORD TOWNSHIP, AND FILED FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON JANUARY 22ND, 2026.
ADEQUATE NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAVING BEEN PROVIDED.
UM, LET'S DO THE, THE FLAG SLIP BEFORE WE SERVE THE MEMBERS.
CAN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES WHEN MAYOR AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION UNDERGRAD INDIVISIBLE, WITH A JUSTICE, JUSTICE FOR, OKAY.
[3.Swear in new Board Members]
BOARD MEMBERS THAT NEED TO BE SWORN IN.THEY HAVE EXECUTED THEIR OATHS OF OFFICE.
CAN I ROLL CALL IN, PLEASE? SURE.
MR. GENTILLY? MR. TENOL? MR. HACKETT? HERE.
[7.Minutes ]
HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MARCH 18TH, 2026? REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.I'M SORRY, WHO MADE THE MOTION OBJECT TO YOU.
WANT ME TO DO THE ROLL HOLDING OR, UH, YES, PLEASE.
ORDER WAS THAT, AND THEN I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APRIL 15TH, 2026.
[8.Memorialization of Resolutions ]
MEMORIALIZATION OF RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION 2026 DASH 20.THE PHONE GAS NUMBER SEVEN LLC 1 74 ROUTE 70 BLOCK 9 0 3 0 2 LOT 26 0 3.
APPROVING THREE ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS OF RESOLUTION 20 24 10 GRANTING A USE VARIANCE IN MINOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE A MOTION PLEASE.
MR. AYE, UH, VICE CHAIR RECORDS? AYE.
[9.Applications ]
FIRST AND ONLY APPLICATION OF THE NIGHT, EASTERN WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE LLC 1 45 HELINE ROAD BLOCK 9 0 9, LOT SEVEN SEEKING A USE VARIANCE AND PRELIMINARY AND FINAL MAJOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO INSTALL A NEW COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY IN THE GMS ZONING DISTRICT.UM, I, I WANNA SAY I DO HAVE ONE EXTROVERT WHOSE ETA IS ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FROM NOW, SO WE WON'T NEED HIM FOR A LITTLE LATER.
SO HE SHOULD BE HERE MOMENTARILY IF HE MAKES IT.
SO, I'M KEVIN JONES FROM ZOO, BLA AND JONES ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, EASTERN WIRELESS, UH, ALONG WITH VERIZON WIRELESS.
SO, EASTERN WIRELESS IS A TOWER COMPANY WHOSE ANCHOR TENANT AND PARTNER OF VERIZON WIRELESS IS CONSTRUCTING A WIRE, A WIRELESS TELECOM FACILITY.
SO THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO CON, UH, CONSIST OF A MONOPOLE AT THE LOCATION.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE GMS ZONE WHERE, UH, WIRELESS TOWERS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
IN FACT, WIRELESS TOWERS AREN'T PERMITTED IN ANY ZONES, UH, AT THIS MOMENT IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP.
SO THE APPLICANT IS RE REQUESTING A D ONE USE SPIRITS TOGETHER WITH PRELIMINARY AND FINAL SITE PLAN, UH, FOR THIS TOWER.
SO, AGAIN, THE FCC LICENSE CARRIER VERIZON WIRELESS HAS A GAP IN ITS WIRELESS COVERAGE AND A GAP IN ITS CAPACITY.
SO THE REASON FOR THIS SITE IS TO NOT ONLY FILL THE, THE GAP IN COVERAGE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, THERE'S VERY, UH, SCARCE COVERAGE, UH, I BELIEVE FOR ALL CARRIERS.
WE'RE HERE TO, TO PROVIDE PROOFS FOR VERIZON WIRELESS IN TERMS OF THEIR CA UH, THEIR, UM, COVERAGE AND CAPACITY NEEDS.
UH, AND YOU'LL SEE MAPS AND YOU'LL HEAR TESTIMONY WITH REGARD TO THAT.
UH, THIS TOWER WILL ALSO BE BUILT, WHICH IS AN FCC REQUIREMENT TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE CARRIERS.
SO THE, THE TOWER ITSELF TOGETHER WITH THE, UH, 3,600 SQUARE FOOT COMPOUND WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE CARRIERS, AT LEAST TWO OTHER CARRIERS.
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UH, TYPICALLY THE LARGE CARRIERS AT AND T THEY'RE ONLY THREE MAIN ONES NOW AT AND T AND T-MOBILE, UH, WHO I DO KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, NEED COVERAGE IN THIS AREA.I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS COVERAGE IN THIS AREA, WILL LIKELY BE ABLE TO CO-LOCATE, WHICH IS ADD THEIR EQUIPMENT AT THIS FACILITY.
SHOULD IT GET APPROVED AND BUILT, UH, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER IMPACT OR ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT, THE FOOTPRINT WOULD REMAIN THE SAME AND THE TOWER WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
IT CAN ACCOMMODATE THESE ANTENNAS, UH, AND THE ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT.
UH, VERIZON'S ALSO, UH, PROPOSING GROUND EQUIPMENT.
SO THE ANCILLARY RADIO AND GROUND EQUIPMENT TOGETHER WITH BACKUP, UH, NATURAL GAS GENERATOR WILL BE PLACED WITHIN, UH, THE COMPOUND.
UH, AGAIN, THE, THE, THE MAIN REASON FOR THESE SITES IS TO FILL THE GAPS IN COVERAGE, UH, IN BURLINGTON COUNTY AND MEDFORD TOWNSHIP.
THEY'RE ALSO PARTNERS WITH VERIZON WIRELESS.
UH, VERIZON HAS A ONE TALK FEATURE WHERE MUNICIPALITIES, UH, USE VERIZON WIRELESS, UH, THAT CREATES A PRIORITY NETWORK.
UH, IN OTHER WORDS, UH, IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, UH, WHEN THE FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, USE THE VERIZON NETWORK, THEIR COMMUNICATIONS AND THEIR DEVICES WILL RECEIVE PRIORITY OVER THE NETWORK.
UH, BURLINGTON COUNTY, AGAIN, I MENTIONED THEIR EMS, THEIR FIRE, UH, ALL USED IN THE DETECTIVE BUREAU.
ALL USED THE, UH, VERIZON WIRELESS NETWORK.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, THIS WAS PART OF, ESSENTIALLY RECENTLY, OVER THE LAST 11 YEARS, A THREE SITE SOLUTION.
THERE WAS A SITE THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, JUST OVER 11 YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE, AT 80 ARIS TOWN ROAD THAT WAS 154 FOOT MONOPOLE, UH, FOR VERIZON WIRELESS.
UH, MORE RECENTLY IN 2003, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD GRANTED A TOWER AT TAUNTON FORGE, UH, WHICH CONSISTED OF A MONOPOLE AT, AT THE PLAZA.
SO THAT WAS, THEY'RE COVERING EACH PART OF THE COMMUNITY DURING THAT PARTICULAR HEARING AT THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, OUR RF EXPERT, HE'S NOT HERE YET, HE TE OH, HE IS HERE, HERE HE IS.
SO HE TESTIFIED AND PROVIDED, UM, MAPS AND COVERAGE DATA AT THAT MEANING THAT THIS PARTICULAR SITE WOULD BE NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE.
SO SORT OF LIKE A TWO OR THREE SITE SOLUTION FOR MEDFORD.
UH, AGAIN, THIS SITE OF TOWN WITH THE OTHER TWO SITES THAT I MENTIONED, UH, ON AIR, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TESTIFYING HE'LL PROVIDE TESTIMONY TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS SITE.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GONNA BUILD A NEW TOWER, YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHY THIS TOWER HERE AND NOWHERE ELSE.
AND THIS IS THE REASON THAT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, AREA WAS CHOSEN.
UH, AGAIN, NOWHERE IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP HAS THESE, ARE, THESE USES PERMITTED.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT TRIES TO DO IS IDENTIFY THE LEAST INTRUSIVE MEANS, UH, TO FILL THEIR GAP IN COVERAGE AND FIND A SITE.
SO YOU NEED TO FIND A WILLING LANDLORD.
UH, THE, THE MEDFORD VILLAGE COUNTRY CLUB OWNS THIS TYPE.
IT'S A VERY LARGE, I THINK IT'S, UH, HOW BIG IS IT? IT IS, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE, UH, PARCEL, UH, 4,696 ACRE PROPERTY.
UH, THE TOWER IS GONNA BE PLACED IN THE MAINTENANCE YARD ALONG HEMAL LINE ROAD.
UH, THIS SITE IS ALSO IN THE PINELANDS, THE REGIONAL GROWTH AREA.
SO THE FIRST STEP THAT THE APPLICANT HAD TO DO WAS GET A CERTIFICATE OF FILING FROM THE PINELANDS.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A PREREQUISITE BEFORE YOU FILE ANY MUNICIPAL ZONING APPLICATION, UH, FOR SITE PLAN OR USE VARIANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SO WE WORKED WITH THE SITE PLANS.
UH, THERE WERE SOME, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WERE ALL IRONED OUT WITH THE SITE PLAN, UH, WITH THE PINELANDS ENGINEERING TEAM, I SHOULD SAY.
AND, UH, THEY ISSUED THE CERTIFICATE OF FILING IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
SO IT, IT TOOK A WHILE TO GET TO THIS POINT, BUT NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE, UH, VERIZON AND EASTERN WIRELESS ARE READY TO, UH, EMBARK ON THIS ENDEAVOR.
SO I THINK MY, MY, I'M GONNA NOW CALL MY FIRST WITNESS, UH, A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER JOSHUA CATRELL FROM FRENCH AND PELLO.
HE'LL DESCRIBE THE NATURE OF THE SITE, UH, THE ACCESS AND ALL OF THE OTHER DETAILS.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL SWEAR HIM IN.
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE? UH, SURE.
MR. COTRELL, YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE TO THE BOARD WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
MR. COTRELL, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY WITHOUT THE YES.
CAN YOU PROVIDE, NOW THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE MICROPHONE.
IS THAT, DO YOU WANT, LIKE, HOW CLOSE DOES HE HAVE TO STAND TO THINK? WAS I, I'M SORRY.
MR. TRELL, CAN YOU PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THE BENEFIT OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS? SURE.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE FROM RUTGERS UNIVERSITY IN CIVIL ENGINEERING.
I HAVE OVER 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY.
I TESTIFIED BEFORE OVER A HUNDRED BOARDS ARE OUT NEW JERSEY.
AND I DO HAVE A VALID NEW JERSEY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING LICENSE, UM, THAT'S CURRENT TODAY.
DOES THE BOARD ACCEPT MR? YES.
WERE, WERE YOU QUALIFIED TO TESTIFY BEFORE THIS BOARD PREVIOUSLY, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? I HAVE NOT, NO.
SO, I'M SORRY HIS QUALIFICATIONS WERE ACCEPTED? YES.
SO, MR. CARRELL, BRIEFLY IF YOU COULD, YOU HEARD ME DESCRIBE THE PROJECT AT A HIGH LEVEL.
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CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE THIS PROJECT, THE TOWER, THE INGRESS, THE EGRESS, AND THE, THE OTHER DETAILS? SURE.I'M MOVE THIS OVER A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THE SITE PLANS I'M GONNA REFERENCE TONIGHT, UM, ARE LAST REVISED APRIL 3RD, 2025.
AND IT SHOULD BE THE SET THAT YOU HAD BEFORE YOU THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY IS THE, UM, COUNTRY CLUB MAINTENANCE YARD ACROSS FROM
UM, IT IS LOT 9 0 9, LOT SEVEN, AND CONSISTS OF, I CAN'T READ IT, ABOUT 4.7 ACRES.
UM, IT'S THE CURRENT SITE OF THE, UM, MAINTENANCE BUILDING, UH, ALONG WITH, UM, THREE OTHER OUTBUILDINGS.
UM, JUST FOR A LITTLE HISTORY, BACK IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, THERE WAS A SITE PLAN APPLICATION ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, BEFORE THAT APPLICATION, THERE WAS, UH, FOUR OUTBUILDINGS AND A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING ON THE LOT.
UH, THE APPLICANT AT THAT POINT GOT APPROVAL, UH, TO REMOVE THE DWELLING AND TO REMOVE, UH, THREE OUT OF THE, THREE OUT OF FOUR OF THE, UH, OUTBUILDINGS, ALONG WITH SOME PARKING LOT, UM, IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH THE MAINTENANCE, UH, BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
THEY ONLY CONSTRUCTED THE, THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND REMOVED ONE OF THE OUTBUILDINGS.
SO, UH, THREE OF THE OUTBUILDINGS STILL EXIST TODAY.
UM, UH, THE CURRENT APPLICATION, UH, AND ALSO DURING THAT APPLICATION, THEY WERE, THEY PROPOSED THREE STORM WATER AND DETENTION BASINS WHERE ONLY TWO WERE CONSTRUCTED.
UH, ONLY BECAUSE, UH, MOSTLY IN THE WESTERLY PART, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WEREN'T CONSTRUCTED.
UH, DURING, UM, THE CURRENT, UH, S REVIEW, UH, FOR THE STORMWATER, THE S REQUIRE THE APP, THE, THE CURRENT APPLICANT TO CONSTRUCT THAT THIRD BASIN.
UM, SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THAT THIRD STORMWATER DE DETECT DETENTION BASIN ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE.
IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY, UH, IN THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER, UH, SITE ACCESS WILL REMAIN THE SAME, UM, UH, FROM ALION ROAD.
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA FLIP THE PAGE NOW.
UH, WHICH WILL JUST SHOW THE PROPOSED, UH, FACILITY AREA.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO TRUCK A 60 FOOT BY 60 FOOT FENCED COMPOUND.
UH, THAT'LL BE GRAVEL COVERED.
UM, INSIDE THAT COMPOUND WILL BE A 140 FOOT TALL MONOPOLE.
UM, ON THAT MONOPOLE VERIZON WIRELESS, WE'LL INSTALL 12 ANTENNAS ALONG WITH SIX RADIO UNITS BEHIND THE ANTENNAS.
UM, AT THE BASE OF THAT TOWER, VERIZON WIRELESS WILL INSTALL, UM, UM, A CONCRETE PAD FOR THE EQUIPMENT, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 13 FOOT BY NINE FOOT CONCRETE PAD WITH ABOUT THREE CABINETS ON IT, A FOUR FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT PAD FOR, UH, A NATURAL GAS GENERATOR.
UH, AND ALONG WITH SOME OTHER UTILITY, UM, UM, TELCO AND POWER UTILITY CABINETS, UH, UTILITIES FOR THIS FACILITY WILL NEED, UM, A BACKHAUL IN THE FORM OF TELEPHONE BACKHAUL POWER, AND, UH, THE GAS LINE FOR THE GENERATOR, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO EXTEND ALL OF THOSE FROM ALION ROAD UNDERGROUND.
UM, THE POWER WILL COME TO A PAD MOUNTED TRANSFORMER, UM, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL FROM THE LOCAL POWER COMPANY.
UM, THE, WE, UM, WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A SHORT, UH, EXTENSION TO THE GRAVEL DRIVEWAY JUST THAT LEADS INTO THE PROPOSED COMPOUND.
UM, THE COMPOUND WILL BE ENCLOSED BY A SIX FOOT HIGH CHAIN LENGTH FENCE.
UM, THE, UH, CABLES WILL, CABLES WILL EXTEND FROM THE VERIZON EQUIPMENT TO THE ANTENNAS UP ON THE TOWER, BUT THEY'LL BE ROUTED INSIDE THE MONOPOLE, SO THEY WON'T BE VISIBLE FROM THE OUTSIDE.
UM, CELL TECHNICIANS VISIT THE SITE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ABOUT ONCE EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS.
UM, IT'LL ARRIVE IN AN SUV TYPE VEHICLE.
UM, WILL THEY NEED ANY, OH, I'M SORRY.
IS THE APPLICANT PROPOSING ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING HERE? UH, NO.
ADDITIONAL PARKING, WE'LL USE THE EXISTING GRAVEL DRIVEWAY FOR THE PARKING, SO THERE WON'T BE A DESIGNATED PARKING SPOT.
WE'LL JUST PARK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE COMPOUND.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, JUST A FEW OTHER THINGS FOR THE RECORD.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE PROPOSED LIGHTING AT THE SITE? UH, SURE.
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NO PROPOSED LIGHTING ON THE TOWER, BUT HOWEVER, VERIZON WIRELESS, WE WILL INSTALL WORK LIGHT AT THE, UH, AT THE EQUIPMENT.UM, THE WORK LIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE POINTED DOWNWARD TOWARDS THE EQUIPMENT.
IT'LL BE USED ONLY IF IN THE NEED.
UH, IF THE CELL TECHNICIAN NEEDS TO COME DURING THE NIGHTTIME.
UM, THE LIGHTS, UH, WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH A PHOTO CELL, UM, ALONG WITH SHROUDS TO, UM, PREVENT THE LIGHT FROM SPILLING CROSS.
UM, IT'LL ALSO HAVE A MOTION SENSOR FOR SECURITY, SO THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ONE LIGHT.
UH, IT, IT, THERE MIGHT BE, UH, I BELIEVE THEY INSTALL, UH, TWO DUAL LIGHTS, SO, OKAY.
UM, TECHNICALLY FOUR LIGHTS IN TOTAL, UH, IN TWO LOCATIONS.
IS THIS SITE REMOTELY MONITORED? MADAM CHAIR? COULD I JUST, YES.
SO IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT CABINETS PUT THERE, IF THIS IS APPROVED, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR WHEN ADDITIONAL CARRIERS COME IN, YES, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN WORK LIGHTS.
UM, SO, SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF HOW MANY LIGHTS, IF ANOTHER CARRIER COMES IN, UH, EACH, EACH CARRIER WILL HAVE THEIR OWN.
SO I'M JUST, JUST ASKING WHAT'S THE, WELL, THE, YOU KNOW, WE, THE TOWER DEVELOPERS USUALLY BUILD A SITE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, AT LEAST FOUR CARRIERS.
UM, VERIZON BEING THE FIRST ONE IN.
SO POTENTIALLY THREE ADDITIONAL CARRIERS AND THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL CAR CARRIERS.
AND INCLUDING YOURSELF WITH HOW MANY LIKES? UH, THE OTHER CA UM, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON EXPERIENCE, OF COURSE, THIS ISN'T THE APPLICATION FOR THE OTHER CARRIERS, BUT, UM, THEY TYPICALLY INSTALL SIMILAR LIGHTS.
UM, T-MOBILE WILL JUST INSTALL ONE PAIR OF LIGHTS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO A NUMBER A, POSSIBLY A POSSIBLE NUMBER.
UM, WELL, IN ADDITION TO THESE LIGHTS, MAYBE THREE MORE LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT BECAUSE IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL TYPE.
YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE CARRIER ACTUALLY DOES COME IN, WE WON'T KNOW MA MADAM CHAIR.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO QUANTIFY IT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT FOUR LIGHTS TO GET PUT INTO THE RESOLUTION, RIGHT? MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THAT IT WOULDN'T, IF IT DOES GET APPROVED, IT WOULDN'T COME BACK HERE, SO, YEAH.
AND LIKELY MOST OF THE TIME THEY OFF USE SWITCHES.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST TO, FOR CLARIFICATION, LET'S SAY THE TECHNICIAN, UH, GOES TO THE SITE AND INADVERTENTLY LEAVES ONE OF THE LIGHTS ON.
WILL THESE LIGHTS TIME OFF AND TURN OFF THEMSELVES? YEAH, SO, SO THE, THE SWITCH ON THE LIGHTS ARE ON A, ON A TIMER.
SO TYPICALLY THEY'RE LIKE TWO OR FOUR HOUR TIMERS.
SO IF THE TECHNICIAN DOES COME AT NIGHT, TOGGLES A SWITCH ON, IT'S ON A FOUR HOUR TIMER, SO THE, THE LIGHTS WON'T STAY ON INDEFINITELY.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S BASIC FOR ALL CARRIERS.
UH, VERIZON IS A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY INSTALL ADDITIONAL, LIKE THE PHOTO SOUTH.
UM, BUT THEY'RE ALL ON TIMERS.
SO THE PHOTO CELL IS JUST A REDUNDANCY IN CASE SOMEBODY WERE TO LEAVE IT ON, AND IT WAS DAYTIME WHEN THEY TURNED IT ON.
UM, SO IT'S A PHOTO CELL WITH A MOTION SENSOR.
SO IF THERE'S MOTION TO AT NIGHT, IT WOULDN'T TURN IT ON, IT WOULD, IT'LL TURN ON, BUT IT'LL TURN OFF EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
IF ONCE THE MOTION, YOU KNOW, GOES AWAY, UH, A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AFTER THAT, THE LIGHTS WILL GO OFF.
UM, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? OKAY.
AND AS FAR AS THE GENERATOR, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A 30 KW UH, NATURAL GAS POWER GENERATOR.
UM, IT WILL GET EXERCISED ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS, UM, FOR AN HOUR OR SO.
UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS DONE DURING THE WEEKDAY, UH, DAYLIGHT OUT WORK, YOU KNOW, WORKDAY HOURS.
UM, SO YOU SAID ONE TO TWO HOURS? ABOUT ONE HOUR.
WILL THAT 30 KW GENERATOR BE ENOUGH IF OTHER CARRIERS THEN COME TO THE SITE AS WELL? THAT'S ONLY FOR VERIZON.
SO THE POTENTIAL, IT COULD BE FOR THREE TO, I KNOW YOU SAID IT COULD BE FOR FOUR OF 'EM, BUT I BELIEVE YOU HAD SAID ONLY THREE CAN FIT UNDER THAT TOWER.
YOU SAID FOUR? NO, I SAID, SAID, YOU SAID FOUR, YOU SAID I SAID THREE OR FOUR.
I SAID TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE THREE BECAUSE OF THE MA THE MAJOR CARRIERS WHO WOULD COME, THERE ARE SOME SMALLER FCC LICENSE CARRIERS AND POINT TO POINT, UH, HIGH FREQUENCY TRADING COMPANIES WHO MAY OR MAY NOT USE IT.
BUT DUE TO THE LOCATION IN THE PINELANDS, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MAJOR CARRIERS.
SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PADS FOR THE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT
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IF THE OTHER CARRIERS DECIDE TO USE THAT SITE? YEAH.EACH CARRIER WILL HAVE THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT PAD, THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT WITHIN THERE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL PADS THEN BESIDES YOURS? CORRECT.
SO THEY'D HAVE TO BE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION FOR THOSE PADS.
I THINK THAT'S, IS THAT YOUR CONCRETE PAD IS ALREADY DESIGNED TO FIT ALL FOUR CARRIERS, CORRECT? OR NO, NO, THAT THE, THE 60 FOOT BY 60 FOOT GRAVEL COVERED COMPOUND IS SIZED TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE CARRIERS.
BUT THE CONCRETE IS NOT POURED, BUT THE CONCRETE IS NOT POURED.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, LET'S SAY T-MOBILE OR AT AND T DECIDE THEY DON'T NEED A SITE HERE FOR 10 YEARS, THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO POUR THE CONCRETE AND PREPARE IT UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY HAVE A SIGNED LEASE.
AMER, YOU KNOW, EASTERN WIRELESS BEING THE APPLICANT WITH A, A NEW CARRIER.
BUT TYPICALLY THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE.
THEY, THEY, WE BUILD, UH, THE TOWER COMPANY OR THEIR CARRIER BUILDS THE SITE TO ACCOMMODATE IT.
SO WHEN THE CARRIER COMES, IT'S COMMON PRACTICE TO POUR THEIR OWN CONCRETE FOR THEIR OWN CABINETRY.
UH, TYPICALLY CARRIERS DON'T USE THE LARGE SHELTERS ANYMORE.
THEY JUST USE RADIO AND BATTERY EQUIPMENT, CABINETRY, AND KIND OF LIKE OUR PHONES, THE EQUIPMENT'S GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE RADIO AND BATTERY EQUIPMENT ARE.
BUT THIS 3,600 SQUARE FOOT COMPOUND WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE CARRIERS.
IT IT'S BUILT SO IT WON'T HAVE TO GET EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE.
MICHELLE, IS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE, UH, IMPERVIOUS CONVERSION THAT THERE'S GONNA BE FUTURE CONCRETE PAD THAT WE'RE APPROVING? SO I CAN ANSWER THAT.
SO, SO WHEN, WHEN WE CALCULATE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE FOR THE PROPOSED FACILITY, WE JUST ASSUME THE ENTIRE 60 FOOT BY 60 FOOT IS IMPERVIOUS.
'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED IN THERE.
SO THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR FUTURE CARRIERS.
OKAY, MR. CARRELL, DID YOU, UH, REVIEW THE REVIEW LETTERS BY, UH, TAYLOR DESIGN GROUP? UH, I THINK THE SECOND LETTER, UH, DATED OCTOBER 7TH, 2025.
AND THE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOLUTIONS.
IS THAT OKAY, MICHELLE, TO GO THROUGH IT NOW THAT THE REVIEW LETTER SENT? SHE'S, UH, YES, I DID REVIEW IT.
UH, HER REPORT WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UH, DO YOU AGREE THAT THE APPLICANT CAN COMPLY WITH, UH, THE ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THAT LETTER? YES, I DO.
IF WE GO TO THE, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, PART OF IT, UH, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING, UH, AT, AT THE, UH, AT THE SITE? SURE.
WELL, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING LANDSCAPING FOR THIS APPLICATION.
UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME COMMENTS.
UM, WE ARE SHOWING A PORTION OF POTENTIAL, UH, CLEARING AT THE REAR OF THE, UH, COMPOUND.
UM, WE DIDN'T IDENTIFY SPECIFIC TREES IN THAT LOCATION, SO I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW MANY TREES, IF ANY TREES WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, ALSO FOR THE UNDERGROUND ROUTING FROM AL LANE ROAD, UM, FOR THE UTILITY ROUTING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE SNEAKING IN BETWEEN SOME EXISTING STREET TREES THERE.
UM, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME IMPACT TO THE STREET TREES AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WILL FOR THE COMPOUND LOCATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO STAKE IT OUT, WE'LL LOCATE ANY TREE AND MARKET, UM, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE REMOVED, WE'LL MARK IT OUT IN THE FIELD.
AND IF THEY DO GET REMOVED, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT, UM, WILL AGREE TO COMPLY WITH THE TREE REPLACEMENT ORDINANCE.
UM, ALSO IF ANY TREES ARE DAMAGED FOR THE UTILITY ROUTINGS, UM, THEY'LL ALSO, UH, COMPLY WITH A TREE REPLACEMENT ORDINANCE FOR THAT.
AND WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, WITH THE PLANNER A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR THOSE TREES.
UM, I THINK WE WOULD RECOMMEND KIND OF ALONG THE, ALONG THE STREET TO KIND OF, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FILL IN THAT BUFFER ALONG THE STREET.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AND AGREE, UM, ONCE WE KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW MANY TREES ARE BEING REMOVED AND HOW MANY REPLACEMENT TREES WILL BE REQUIRED.
SO IS IT FAIR TO SAY THE APPLICANT WILL WORK WITH THE MUNICIPAL PROFESSIONALS AND OFFICIALS, UH, IN TERMS OF ANY REQUIRED FREE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT? YES.
AND WITH REGARD TO SCREENING THE EQUIPMENT, UH, MS. TAYLOR HAS A COMMENT ABOUT, AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THE, UH, REQUIREMENT OF THE SCREENING AND THE TOT AND FORGE, UH, SITE WHERE IT'S A VINYL FENCE, EIGHT TO 10 FEET AND A WARM, MUTED EARTH TONE COLOR, AND THE APPLICANT CAN COMPLY WITH THAT.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? YES, IT IS.
ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR REPORT, MICHELLE? ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE? UH, NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT, UM, THE VARI THERE WILL BE A VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR THE FENCE IN EXCEEDANCE OF SIX FEET.
SO THAT SHOULD BE ADDED, UM, TO THE LIST OF VARIANCES.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH IMPERVIOUS COVER OR BUILDING COVERAGE.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES,
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THAT'S ALL.MOVING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOLUTIONS, UH, REVIEW LETTER OF DECEMBER 10TH, 2025, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT? I DID.
UH, CAN THE APPLICANT COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MR. NOLL, UH, IDENTIFIED IN THAT LETTER? AS FAR AS THE ENGINEERING ITEMS, YES.
DID YOU HAVE ANY? SO I DO HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION.
I APPRECIATE YOU READING ALL THE COMMENTS IN THE LETTER.
UH, THE, THE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE OPERATION MAINTENANCE OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
UH, YOU CREATED, YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING AN ADDITIONAL STORMWATER BASIN.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED WAS FOR AN OPERATION MAINTENANCE MANUAL, WHICH I'M I'M SURE YOU'LL PROVIDE, UH, WHO'S THE, UH, ENTITY THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE ON SITE? WOULD THAT BE THE EASTERN WIRELESS OR IS IT THE PROPERTY OWNER? HOW HAS THAT BEEN WORKED OUT? IT WOULD BE EASTERN WIRELESS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
EASTERN WIRELESS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE MAINTENANCE, UH, WITHIN ITS, YOU KNOW, WE THE 60 BY 60, BUT, BUT THE BASIN IS OR OUTSIDE 60, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT THAT'S ALSO, THAT BASIN, UH, AND KEEP ME HONEST, WAS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UH, AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE PINELANDS.
AND THERE WERE SOME PINELANDS REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO OUR APPLICATION THAT WE HAD TO FACTOR INTO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE EXIST, THERE ARE EXISTING BASINS ON THE SITE AND ALL THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THE, THE MAINTENANCE RESTRICTION IS GONNA COVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S REASON WHY WE'LL NEED TO WORK THAT OUT AS FAR AS WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE AND TO BE RESPONSIBLE, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT POST-APPROVAL MATTER CHAIR.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BROUGHT TO LIGHT AND IT'S ON THE RECORD THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT BECAUSE IT, WE CAN'T JUST HAVE EASTERN WIRELESS MAINTAIN THAT ONE BASIN THAT THEY HAD TO PUT CONSTRUCTED PART OF THEIR, UH, COMPOUND.
AND THEN THE OTHER BASIS IS NOT GET MAINTAINED.
IT HAS TO BE FIGURED OUT WHO'S MAINTAINING WHAT AND THEN REPORTED BE UNDERSTOOD AND, AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT AS A CONDITION SHOULD THE BOARD CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE MANUAL WILL BE FOR THE BASIN WE'RE PROPOSING NOW OR FOR, FOR IT SHOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE STORM MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THEY HONOR.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR.
MS. TAYLOR, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD AS FAR AS THE LAND THINGS OF IT? THERE WAS NO LANDSCAPING THAT THEY NO, I'M NOT TERRIBLY CONCERNED WITH, WITH MANAGING IT OUT IN THE FIELD.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY DO THE, THE UTILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A PERFECTLY REASONABLE CONDITION TO FACE ON IT.
NEXT I HAVE MR. ANDREW PETERSON FROM DVN.
IF YOU COULD, DO YOU SWEAR IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? ANDREW PETERSON.
DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE TO THE BOARD WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO.
MR. PETERSON, CAN YOU PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THE BENEFIT OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS? SURE.
UM, I HAVE UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE DEGREES, UH, BOTH IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING, UH, BOTH FROM LEHIGH UNIVERSITY, UM, ONE, UH, SPECIFICALLY A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING AND A MASTER OF ENGINEERING AND ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING WITH A SPECIALTY IN WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES FROM A RADIO FREQUENCY PERSPECTIVE, UH, FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
UM, TESTIFIED HUNDREDS OF TIMES, IF NOT A THOUSAND TIMES OR MORE IN FRONT OF MUNICIPAL BODIES LIKE THIS ONE.
UM, AND ALSO TESTIFIED IN FEDERAL COURT, STATE COURT AS AN EXPERT WITNESS, UM, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND STATE OF NEW JERSEY AS WELL AS A HANDFUL OF SURROUNDING STATES.
AND YOU TESTIFIED AT THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL, CORRECT? YES.
THAT MEANT FOR TEMPERATURE PLANNING? CORRECT.
DOES THE BOARD ACCEPT MR. PETERSON'S QUALIFICATIONS? YES.
UH, MR. PETERSON, DID YOU, UH, FIRST, UM, YOU HEARD ME MENTION THAT VERIZON WIRELESS, WHO IS THE ANCHOR TENANT FOR EASTERN WIRELESS, HAS A GAP IN ITS COVERAGE AND CAPACITY.
UH, DID YOU PERFORM, UH, AN ANALYSIS AND ISSUE A REPORT DATED, UH, SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2025? I DID, YES.
AND THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE THIS, THIS REPORT.
I HAVE, I HAVE SOME EXTRA COPIES TOO, IF ANYONE, DID YOU ANYONE NEED EXTRAS? WE ALL HAVE IT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU DID TO PREPARE FOR THIS ANALYSIS AND WHAT THAT ANALYSIS, UH,
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REVEALED? SURE.SO, UM, I EXAMINED THE, UH, EXISTING COVERAGE, UH, THAT VERIZON WIRELESS CURRENTLY HAS IN THE AREA.
UM, I DO THAT USING, UH, PROPAGATION MODELING SOFTWARE.
UH, VERIZON USES, UH, MODELING SOFTWARE CALLED AOL MANUFACTURED BY, UH, A COMPANY CALLED FORCE.
IT'S BASICALLY THE INDUSTRY STANDARD.
UH, THE OTHER MAJOR WIRELESS PROVIDERS ALSO USE IT, AND IT IS A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO SIMULATE THE, UH, NETWORK COVERAGE CAPACITY AND A WHOLE, UH, MULTITUDE OF, OF DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE NETWORK.
UM, AND WE'LL LOOK AT SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME PROPAGATION MODELING FROM THAT.
UH, BUT IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE SPECIFICS OF THE FACILITIES, THE SURROUNDING EXISTING FACILITIES, THE PROPOSED FACILITY, UM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD AFFECT HOW THE SIGNAL TRAVELS, INCLUDING THE FREQUENCIES USED, UH, ANY INTERVENING CLUTTER, TREES, BUILDINGS, ROADWAYS, THINGS THAT WOULD, UH, DEADEN THE SIGNAL.
UM, AND WE USE IT AND RELY ON IT ON A DAILY BASIS TO, UH, DESIGN THE NETWORK.
UM, SO UTILIZING THAT PROPAGATION MODELING SOFTWARE, WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, THE SERVICE LEVEL THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED FOR, UH, UH, VERIZON WIRELESS CUSTOMERS.
UM, AND THAT IS ON PAGE TWO OF THE REPORT.
UM, AND ALSO WE HAVE THAT ON THE BOARD, UH, ENLARGED, UH, BEHIND ME.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING THERE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST A MAP.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, MOST, MOST NOTABLY WE HAVE, UH, 70 RUNNING EAST WEST.
UM, WE HAVE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES ALSO IN BLACK, AND THEN SOME OTHER, UH, TYPICAL MAP FEATURES.
UH, THE MORE LOCAL ROADWAYS, UM, COUNTRY CLUB HERE IS ALSO SHOWN.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME VERIZON WIRELESS SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT INCLUDES THE, UH, EXISTING VERIZON WIRELESS FACILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY SERVING THE AREA.
THEY'RE INDICATED WITH THE TARGETED ICONS THAT DOT THE PERIPHERY OF THE EXHIBIT, AND THE DETAILS OF THOSE FACILITIES CAN BE FOUND ALSO ON PAGE TWO OF THE, OF THE REPORT AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURE TYPE ADDRESS, ET CETERA.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY, UH, MOST CENTRAL TO THE EXHIBIT, ALSO WITH A TARGETED ICON.
UM, THEN WE ALSO HAVE TWO THRESHOLDS OF COVERAGE SHOWN.
FIRST, UM, IN GREEN IS THE THRESHOLD THAT WILL PROVIDE STRONG IN BUILDING COVERAGE FOR VERIZON WIRELESS SUBSCRIBERS.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, A LESS STRINGENT THRESHOLD IN YELLOW, UM, THAT SHOWS AREAS WHERE VERIZON WIRELESS CUSTOMERS WOULD HAVE SERVICE IN VEHICLE.
AND THEN WE HAVE AREAS ON THE MAP WHERE THERE IS, UH, NEITHER GREEN OR YELLOW.
UM, AND THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED SITE WHERE WE HAVE A LACK OF COVERAGE EVEN FOR SOMEONE IN THEIR VEHICLE.
SO SOMEONE OUTDOORS, LET'S SAY, WALKING THEIR DOG, UH, THEY MAY HAVE SOME COVERAGE SPOTTY COVERAGE HERE AND THERE, BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT WE WOULD DEEM RELIABLE COVERAGE.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS FACILITY IS TO CORRECT THAT ISSUE FOR VERIZON WIRELESS CUSTOMERS.
SO THEY HAVE RELIABLE SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE COME TO RELIABLE UPON.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE THESE.
FOR SOME REASON, THE COLORING ON THESE CHARTS ISN'T GREAT.
UH, BUT, BUT IN THE, THE DESIGN REPORT, THERE'S AN EASIER DISTINCTION, UM, BETWEEN THE YELLOW AND, AND THE KIND OF THE WHITE AREAS THAT HAVE NO COVERAGE.
UM, SO IF THE FACILITY IS APPROVED AND CONSTRUCTED WITH THE ANTENNA CENTER LINE IS PROPOSED AT 137 FEET, WE WILL ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BOTH IN-BUILDING AND IN-VEHICLE RELIABLE COVERAGE.
UH, THAT IS SHOWN ON PAGE THREE OF THE DESIGN REPORT AND ALSO ON THE EASEL BEHIND ME, AGAIN, THIS IS COMPLETED USING, UH, THE PROPAGATION MODELING SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
UM, USING THAT SOFTWARE, WE CAN RUN ANY NUMBER OF, UH, WHAT IF SCENARIOS AS FAR AS HEIGHTS AND ANTENNAS AND, AND DOWN TILTS AND, AND DIFFERENT, UH, PERMUTATIONS OF THOSE THINGS, UH, TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY, UH, IS REQUIRED.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE, THE, UH, 137 FOOT CENTER LINE WILL SATISFY VERIZON'S, UH, NEED FOR THE AREA, UM, WHILE PROVIDING FOR THE MINIMUM TOWER HEIGHT HERE.
SO WE REALLY CAN'T GO ANY SHORTER THAN THAT.
UM, NO POINT IN REALLY GOING MUCH TALLER.
THERE'S ISSUES WITH, WITH BUILDING TOO TALL A TOWER ALSO, OR, OR AT LEAST HAVING OUR ANTENNAS TOO HIGH UP.
UM, SO WE REALLY JUST NEED TO FIND THAT JUST RIGHT HEIGHT IN THIS CASE, THE 137 FEET IS THE MINIMUM THAT'S REQUIRED AND, AND WE WILL GET THE JOB DONE AND PROVIDE THAT RELIABLE COVERAGE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ALL THAT? WHY 137 FEET INSTEAD OF 100 OR INSTEAD OF
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200? YEAH, SO, UM, WHAT WE DO IS WE USE THE PROPAGATION MODELING SOFTWARE, AND THIS IS KIND JUST ONE VIEW OF IT.THIS IS, UH, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST UNDERSTANDABLE, EASILY, MOST EASILY RELATABLE VIEW OF, OF, OF, OF THE, UH, SCENARIOS THAT WE LOOK AT.
SO THIS IS JUST A PURELY A COVERAGE, UH, UH, MAPPING HERE.
UM, AND WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IS THAT WE ARE, UH, PROVIDING SOME OVERLAP TO THE SURROUNDING SITES.
THAT WAY WE FACILITATE, UH, THE MOBILITY ASPECT OF THE NETWORK, WHICH ALLOWS A DEVICE TO HAND OFF FROM ONE SITE TO THE NEXT AS IT TRAVELS THROUGH THE AREA.
UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME AREAS OF YELLOW WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE OVERLAPPING THAT WAY WHEN VEHICLES ARE TRAVERSING THE AREA, THEY CAN HAND OFF FROM LET'S SAY, OUR PROPOSED SITE DOWN TO THE NEXT SITE, UH, TO THE SOUTHWEST OR OR TO THE SOUTHEAST.
UM, AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE STRONG GREEN IN-BUILDING COVERAGE TO AREAS WHERE THERE IS D DENSE IN-BUILDING USAGE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TARGETING HERE.
UM, SO WE, WHAT WE DO IS WE RUN AND SIMULATE THE, UH, THE FACILITY AT A MULTITUDE OF HEIGHTS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE MINIMUM HEIGHT WE NEED TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THE 137 FOOT CENTER LINE WILL GET THAT DONE.
IF, IF WE WERE TO SAY, GO UP TO 200 FEET, SURE THERE WOULD BE A A, A LARGER COVERAGE FOOTPRINT.
UM, THERE IS THIS DIMINISHING RETURN AS WE GO UP BEYOND WHAT WE NEED.
ONCE WE'VE, UH, CLEARED THE, THE PREVAILING TREE LINE AND PROVIDED THAT LINE OF SIGHT, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT GAINED BY GOING MUCH TALLER.
UM, AND IN FACT, IT, IT CAN CAUSE ISSUES IN THE NETWORK WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING OVERLY REDUNDANT COVERAGE.
UM, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S ISSUES WITH THAT ALSO FROM, FROM A A NETWORK STANDPOINT, THAT'S NOT A GREAT DESIGN PRACTICE.
SO WE SEEK TO BUILD THE SHORTEST SITE THAT WILL GET THE JOB DONE FOR US.
AND, AND, AND, UH, IN THIS CASE, THE 137 FOOT CENTER LINE WILL DO THAT.
HOW MANY HOMES ARE YOU GUYS PREDICTING THAT YOU'RE GONNA COVER WITH THIS TOWER? I DON'T HAVE, UH, THAT INFORMATION HANDY BUILDING OR WHATEVER.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS USE THEN? JUST THE AREA MAP? OR IS IT BUSINESSES YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SCHOOLS, OR IS IT, IT'S IT'S REALLY THE GEOGRAPHY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GAP IN COVERAGE.
IT'S CAUSING ISSUES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING HERE, WORKING HERE, DRIVING THROUGH THE AREA, YOU KNOW, ANYONE IN THE AREA.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS GEOGRAPHY AND WHAT, WHAT DO WE NEED TO FILL THIS GEOGRAPHY? UM, I COULD, I, I, I MEAN I COULD PROBABLY GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU, UM, AS FAR AS HOW MANY HOMES AND BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT HANDY.
WERE THERE ALTERNATE SITES CONSIDERED? SO, YEAH, THE ONLY EXISTING TALL STRUCTURE, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.
THE VERIZON'S PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS TO CO-LOCATE ON EXIST AN EXISTING TALL STRUCTURE.
UM, IT'S MUCH FASTER TO MARKET.
UH, TYPICALLY, UH, TYPICALLY IT'S CHEAPER.
TYPICALLY, UM, THERE ARE LESS, UH, HURDLES FROM, FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT.
UM, IN THIS CASE, NO, THAT THERE WAS NOTHING TALL EXISTING IN THE RIGHT SPOT THAT WOULD GET THE JOB DONE.
THERE IS A WATER TANK, UM, NOT FAR FROM WHERE WE ARE.
THERE'S A WATER TANK HERE, UM, THAT WAS CONSIDERED, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF UP IN THE AREA WHERE WE'RE, UM, BEING ALREADY BEING COVERED BY THE SITE TO THE NORTH CALLED MEDFORD.
WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS GREEN AREA ALREADY.
UM, AND THAT WOULD LEAD TO THIS OVERLY REDUNDANT COVERAGE TYPE OF THING.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COVER THE AREAS THAT REALLY NEED COVERAGE TO THE SOUTH FROM A, FROM A SITE THAT'S, IT'S ABOUT 1.2, 1.3 MILES NORTH.
UM, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY TALL EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, THAT THAT WAS, UH, CONSIDERED OR, OR, OR THAT WAS AVAILABLE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR LIST? IS MEDFORD WATER TOWER JENNINGS ROAD, OR IS THAT, LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN EXISTING TOWER THEN.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S A, THAT'S ANOTHER EXISTING SITE IF I CAN FIND THAT, BECAUSE I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MORE NORTH WATER TOWER.
YEAH, THAT, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT IS THE SITE UP HERE.
THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER WATER TOWER.
YEAH, THAT'S A WATER TOWER FURTHER NORTH.
THERE'S ANOTHER WATER TOWER HERE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT ONE AND THE MEDFORD ACME ONE ARE LIKE STONES THROW FROM EACH OTHER.
SO THE ACME SITE IS, UM, IT SAYS MEDFORD ACME MC, THE MC IS A, IS A MICRO CELL.
SO IT'S NOT A FULL BLOWN TOWER TYPE SITE OR, OR WHAT YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF A CELL PHONE TOWER.
UM, THAT HAS, I THINK A 30 FOOT CENTER LINE.
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IT MIGHT BE ON A WOOD POLE OR SOME TYPE OF UTILITY POLE.AND IT'S REALLY THERE TO COVER, UH, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY FOR THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
IT DOESN'T REALLY COVER MUCH OUTSIDE OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
SO, UM, I, I SHOULD NOTE THAT, AND THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE NOTED IN THE REPORT OR IN THAT TABLE THAT IT IS A, A MICRO CELL.
YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO, I COULDN'T FIND IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING ON THE MAPS.
THAT'S WHY I GUESS LIKE YOU JUST, THAT'S, YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT A STREET VIEW MAP, IT SAYS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND IT.
SO IS THERE A POINT WHERE 2016, THE ONE THAT'S AT TOTTEN, UH, THE, THE TOWER IS THERE, IS THERE A POINT WHERE THE ONE THAT'S PROPOSED, THEY COME TOGETHER OR YEAH, THE, THE, UH, THE SITE THAT WAS DONE RECENTLY, TOLTON ROAD SITE MM-HMM
SO HERE ALONG TOLTON BOULEVARD, UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE, LEMME TAKE A STEP BACK.
IF WE LOOK AT THE, AT THE EXISTING COVERAGE HERE ALONG TALTON BOULEVARD, THINGS GET DICEY AS YOU GET IN THE VICINITY OF THE COUNTRY CLUB HERE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE GAPS THAT OPEN UP AND IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO SEE ON THE, IN THE REPORT JUST WITH THE, THE WAY THEY, UH, THE COLOR CAME OUT.
BUT IN HERE THERE'S SOME WHITE AND SOME AREAS WHERE YOU'RE LIKELY GONNA HAVE ISSUES AND DROP THE CALL IN THE VEHICLE.
UM, ONCE THIS SITE'S HOPEFULLY APPROVED AND CONSTRUCTED AND INTEGRATED INTO THE NETWORK, THIS WILL CLEAN THAT UP AND ALLOW THAT HANDOFF.
SO IF YOU'RE TRAVELING THAT WAY OR ANYWHERE IN THAT VICINITY, YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE SERVED BY THE NEW SITE.
SO THIS TAKES CARE OF THAT SPACE WHERE WE'RE HAVING, UH, A PROBLEM BETWEEN THE TWO RIGHT NOW.
YOU, YOU'LL HAVE THE TOP CONNECTING WITH, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PETERSON REGARDING THE NEED FOR THE SITE? UH, ONE OTHER THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT JUST BRIEFLY IS THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUIRED TO MEET ALL FCC REQUIREMENTS WITH REGARD TO ADMISSIONS.
UH, THE FCC HAS MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE STANDARDS, UH, THAT ALL FCC LICENSE CARRIERS SUCH AS VERIZON, UH, WHO IS AGAIN, THE ANCHOR TENANT FOR EASTERN WIRELESS, UH, IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH.
SO ANDY, JUST SPEAK BRIEFLY, BRIEFLY, EXCUSE ME, ABOUT THE EMISSIONS AT THIS SITE, IF YOU COULD.
SO, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE DESIGN ASPECTS OF THE SITE, I ALSO ANALYZE, UH, THE SITE FROM AN ELECTROMAGNETIC EMISSIONS PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE SURE IT WOULD BE COMPLIANT, UH, WITH THE FEDERAL STANDARDS.
UM, WHAT WE DO IN THIS, WELL, IN ALL CASES, BUT IN THIS CASE, UH, WHAT WAS DONE WAS WE, WE LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF THE SITES OF THE ANTENNAS, THE RADIOS, THE OUTPUT POWER, UM, THEN WE USE, SO THE, THE, UH, FORMULAS THAT ARE PRESCRIBED, UH, BY THE FCC, UM, THEY'RE FOUND IN BULLETIN 65 FROM THE OFFICE OF ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY.
BUT REALLY SOME BASIC PHYSICS FORMULAS THAT COVER HOW RADIO FREQUENCY ENERGY PROPAGATES, UM, USING THOSE FORMULAS AND, UH, MULTITUDE OF UPPER LIMIT ASSUMPTIONS.
UM, I FOUND THAT THE EXPOSURE LEVELS AT ANY AREAS, UH, AT AT GROUND LEVEL PUBLIC ACCESS WILL BE LESS THAN 4% OF THE APPLICABLE FCC STANDARD.
UM, AND THAT'S FROM A WORSE CASE PERSPECTIVE.
IN REALITY, UH, THE WORST CASE ASSUMPTIONS USUALLY OVERESTIMATE BY ABOUT TENFOLD.
UM, SO THERE, THERE, THERE ARE SOME, THERE, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF, OF, UH, SAFETY FACTORS THAT, THAT ARE INVOLVED.
BUT NONETHELESS, UM, EVEN UNDER WORST CASE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN 4%.
SO 25 TIMES BELOW, UH, THE FCC STANDARD AT ALL LOCATIONS OF PUBLIC ACCESS.
SO FACILITY WILL BE COMPLIANT AND IT'LL BE COMPLIANT BY A WIDE MARGIN.
AND WITH REGARD TO EMISSIONS, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT STATEMENT ON THE RECORD.
UH, BUT TO THE EXTENT THE APPLICANT COMPLIES, THAT'S OUTSIDE THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION, BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN, UH, IN MY, UM, EXPERIENCE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S WELL BELOW THE FCC STANDARD.
THE STATEMENT FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEIR COUNSEL, THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS BEYOND THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PETERSON? CAN WE GO BACK TO THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER? WAS A SHORTER TOWER CONSIDERED IN HERE? I KNOW YOU SAID ONE 30 IS THE PRIME LOCATION.
I MEAN, IF YOU DID A 90 FOOT OR SOMETHING, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HURT, WHAT WOULD THAT HURT? YEAH, SO THESE AREAS WHERE WE'RE KIND OF JUST MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS TO THE SURROUNDING SITES, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD START TO OPEN UP GAPS THERE WITH ANY SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN HEIGHT.
IF WE, IF WE WENT FROM 137 FEET TO 135 FEET, WOULD WE SEE IT IN PROPAGATION MODELING? NOT REAL, NOT NOT FROM THIS
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KIND OF PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT.BUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, DROPPING A, A TOWER, TWO FEET, AESTHETICALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ADVANTAGE.
NOW WHEN YOU, IF, IF YOU WERE TO DROP IT, LET'S SAY 10 FEET OR 15 FEET, 20 FEET, THEN YOU START TO SEE THESE GAPS OPENING UP AND THEN THE SITE'S NOT REALLY DOING EVERYTHING THAT IT NEEDS TO DO.
UM, 'CAUSE EVERY CARRIER GETS A DIFFERENT LEVEL ANYWAY.
RIGHT? PUT THAT SECOND CARRIER, HE'S GONNA BE SIX FEET OR 10 FEET DOWN BELOW ANYWAY.
RIGHT? WELL, IT'S, AND THE NEXT ONE'S GONNA BE EVEN LOWER.
CORRECT? IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET USUALLY CENTER LINE TO CENTER LINE.
AND THAT IS A, A DECISION OR A A, UH, I, I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE OTHER CARRIERS AS TO WHAT THEY, BUT IF TYPICALLY, IN MY EXPERIENCE ANYWAY, IF THEY CAN ACHIEVE 90% OF THEIR OBJECTIVE BY CO-LOCATING ON AN EXISTING TOWER VERSUS TRYING TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE APPROVED, AND, AND THEN THEY HAVE, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO PROVE TO YOU THAT THIS TOWER WON'T WORK FOR THEM.
UM, THEY'RE USUALLY GOING TO OPT FOR THE PATH OF LEASE RESISTANCE, WHICH IS THE CO-LOCATION ON THE EXISTING SITE, AND MAYBE SACRIFICING 5% OF THEIR OBJECTIVES, UM, IN ORDER TO DO SO THAT, THAT'S USUALLY HOW THINGS GO.
BUT THE, THE THING IS, THEY MAY BE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE LIKELY CO-LOCATED ON SOME OF THESE SURROUNDING SITES AND THEY MAY BE 10 FEET TALLER ON THOSE SITES.
THAT'S USUALLY HOW THESE KIND THINGS KIND OF WORK OUT, WHERE, YOU KNOW, VERIZON MAY BE TOP ON THIS SITE.
WE MAY BE THE THIRD TALLEST ON, YOU KNOW, THIS SITE TO THE NORTH, THAT WATER TANK OR THIS SITE OVER HERE.
I KNOW WE'RE UP TOP ON THIS ONE.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S USUALLY WITH THE SHAKE OUT, THE EXCEPTION VERIZON.
'CAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING THEIRS ON FIRST, SO I WOULD ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO THE TOP
NOW THEY SAID THAT, I GUESS THERE WAS A PREVIOUS, I'M NOT SURE WHO SAID IT, BUT SOMEBODY HAD SAID THAT INITIALLY THAT DONE THEY STUDYING, THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE, RIGHT? SO THERE WAS OTHER TWO SITES THAT, THAT WERE ALREADY DONE.
AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS THE THIRD ONE TO, I GUESS TO KIND OF ESSENTIALLY HELP ELIMINATE THE GAP.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE TO THE RIGHT AND TO THE LEFT, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE HUGE GAPS, RIGHT? LIKE SOMEBODY, I, I THINK IT WAS YOU, I THINK IT WAS YOU THAT SAID THAT THEY HAD DONE ONE LIKE MAYBE 10, 12 YEARS AGO, CORRECT? RIGHT.
AND THEY SAID THAT, THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE THREE TO GET THE PROPER COVERAGE.
WELL, THIS ONE I MENTIONED WAS THE THIRD.
UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE PROXIMITY TO THE PINE LANDS, IN FACT, WE'RE IN THE PINE LANDS.
UH, SOME OF THOSE ARE PROHIBITED, UH, IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF THEM ARE, UH, CONSERVATION AREAS AND PRESERVATION AREAS WHERE YOU REALLY CAN'T GET NEW TOWERS, SO YOU'RE LIMITED, UH, BY THE PINE LANDS.
SO WE HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE PINELANDS BEFORE WE EVEN THINK ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IT'S IN, IN A, WITH TOPOGRAPHY LIKE THIS, AND ANDY MAYBE KEEP ME HONEST, IT'S DIFFICULT TO CITE THESE TOWERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FINDING A A, A PLACE IN THE CENTER OF THE GAP BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE YOU HAVE A, A SUBSTANTIAL GAP IN COVERAGE, UH, WORKED TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.
WERE THERE OTHER PARCELS THAT YOU DID LOOK AT? I KNOW THERE WERE A FEW, I I HAVE A SITE ACQUISITION REPRESENTATIVE HERE WHO DID THAT.
AND IT, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO FIND WAS A WILLING LANDLORD.
UH, THERE WAS ONE, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS A CHURCH NEARBY.
AND, UH, THERE WERE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND WETLAND ISSUES, UH, THAT KIND OF PRECLUDED ANY TOWER THERE.
UH, AGAIN, THIS SITE BECAME ESSENTIAL.
A YOU HAD A WILLING LANDLORD, YOU HAD A MAINTENANCE AREA NEAR A GOLF COURSE, AND YOU ALSO HAD IT WITHIN THE PINE LANDS REGIONAL GROWTH AREA, WHICH ALLOWS TOWERS, 'CAUSE A LOT OF PINELANDS AREAS DO NOT ALLOW NEW TOWERS, UH, AT ALL.
UH, SO THIS IS ONE WHERE WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE PINELANDS FOLKS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE HEIGHT.
THEY APPROVED THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER AND THE 3,600 SQUARE FOOT COMPOUND AREA AND ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, ACCESS THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN IMPERVIOUS THAT HE, THAT OUR ENGINEER TESTIFIED TO.
I THINK THAT LAST, UM, MY CONCERN IS JUST, IT'S 140 FEET.
RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT, THE ONLY OTHER TOWER I CAN THINK OF THAT I SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS IS THE MEDFORD LAKES FIRE DEPARTMENT SITS BEHIND IT.
I THINK YOU GUYS CALLED IT BIRCHWOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE MAIN STREET, IT'S JUST A HUGE STEEL TOWER WITH LOTS OF ANTENNAS AT THE TOP.
AND I THINK IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET? UH, WE, WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, OUR PLAN IS GONNA TESTIFY.
HE'LL HAVE PHOTO SIMULATIONS AND I'LL SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, AGAIN, DUE THE, DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THESE,
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A LOT OF TALL, MATURE TREES AND THE CANOPY, THE TREE CANOPIES RELATIVELY HIGH.UH, AS ANDY SAID EARLIER, THE, THIS HEIGHT, THIS TOWER WAS DESIGNED WITH THE MINIMUM HEIGHT NECESSARY, UH, TO FULFILL THE GAP IN ING CAPACITY.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE PINELANDS WOULD'VE PROBABLY APPROVED 150 FOOT TOWER HERE.
UH, BUT AGAIN, WHAT WE DID IS WORKED WITH VERIZON WIRELESS AND CAME WITH THE LEAST, YOU KNOW, INTRUSIVE OR THE LOWEST HEIGHT THAT COULD STILL ALLOW THEM TO FULFILL THIS GOAL TO ACHIEVE THEIR GAP COVERAGE.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
I MEAN, WAS THERE LIKE A, A TEST DONE? UH, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE WAS SOMETHING I READ EARLIER.
IT WAS LIKE A BALLOON TEST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD, IS THIS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? YOU KNOW, WHO CAN SEE THE BALLOON FROM HOW MANY MILES AWAY OR WHATEVER IT IS? IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WAS DONE? YES.
AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA SHOW YOU SIMULATIONS OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S UP.
SO TO, TO, UM, TO DO THOSE SIMULATIONS, THE PROFESSIONAL PLANNER HAD TO CONDUCT THOSE TYPES OF TESTS.
SO MR. ELL WILL EXPLAIN THE METHODS THAT HE USED, UH, IN HIS, UH, REPORT.
SO IF I'M AT THE CLUBHOUSE DOWN GULF VIEW DRIVE LOOKING, AM I GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT? WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? NO, THAT'S ALMOST A MILE DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE FOUND.
BUT, BUT THOSE HOUSES ALONG THAT WAY.
I MEAN, YOU ARE ONLY HOW FAR OFF THE ROAD? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THINK YOU ONLY RIGHT ON GULF A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET UP, ISN'T THAT WHAT IT IS? 200 LESS THAN 200 FEET FROM THE ROAD.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALLOW THE PLANNER TO COME UP AND SHOW YOU WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OF ANYTHING ELSE.
IF BEFORE THOUSAND, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR PLANNER AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ADDRESS, UM, THOSE ISSUES.
NOT THERE'S A, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SEIDEL, UH, THIS IS BRIAN SEIDEL FROM DEL DESIGN AND PLANNING.
PLANNING AND DESIGN, SEIDEL PLANNING AND DESIGN.
MR. SEL, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
UH, FIRST NAME IS BRIAN, B-R-I-A-N.
LAST NAME IS SEL, S-E-I-D-E-L.
THANK YOU, MR. SEL, YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY GOOD TO THE BOARD WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
MR. SEL, CAN YOU PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH THE BENEFIT OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE? SURE.
I'M A NEW JERSEY PROFESSIONAL PLANNER.
I'M ALSO A NEW JERSEY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UH, CERTIFIED BY THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.
I HAVE A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FROM TEMPLE UNIVERSITY, UH, OBTAINED IN 1997.
I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE FIELD OF LAND PLANNING AND CONSULTING EVER SINCE.
UH, TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF NUMEROUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ALL THROUGHOUT NEW JERSEY.
I BELIEVE I HAVE BEEN IN MEDFORD PREVIOUSLY, BUT IT'S BEEN A SEVERAL YEARS.
DOES THE BOARD ACCEPT MR. ELLA'S QUALIFICATIONS? YES.
OKAY, MR. ELLA, YOU HEARD THE, UH, MY OPENING STATEMENT AND YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PREVIOUS EXPERTS.
CAN YOU, UM, FIRST EXPLAIN WHAT YOU DID IN PREPARATION FOR THIS APPLICATION AND DESCRIBE IT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE? SURE.
WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION DOCUMENTS, THE MASTER PLAN, LAND USE REGULATIONS, VISITED THE SITE.
UH, WE DID PRO PROVIDE PHOTO SIMULATIONS AND A PHOTOGRAPHIC INVENTORY OF THE AREA TO IDENTIFY, UH, WHERE THE TOWER WOULD POTENTIALLY BE VISIBLE AND SIMULATE THE VIEW OF THAT TOWER.
UM, WE CAN PASS THOSE SIMULATIONS AROUND.
DO YOU HAVE SOME EXTRAS? YES, WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE.
SO, MR. D, SHOULD WE MARK THIS AS, 'CAUSE THIS IS, UM, AN, AN ADDITIONAL EXHIBIT THAT HE PREPARED.
AND DO WE HAVE A LIST GOING OR NO? NO, WE MAKE A ONE.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
WHY DON'T YOU START WITH THE END AND SHE CAN PASS ME.
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I'M SORRY, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THIS WAS EXHIBIT A ONE.SO, UH, I'LL DESCRIBE THE PACKET I JUST HANDED OUT TO YOU.
IT'S IDENTIFIED AS A PHOTOGRAPHIC INVENTORY AND SIMULATIONS, UH, DATED JANUARY 7TH OF THIS YEAR.
THE SECOND PAGE IS, UH, CONTAINS A KEY MAP, AND THAT'S THE BOARD THAT I HAVE ON THE EASEL HERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
BASICALLY THE KEY MAP IS THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE AREA.
UH, THE WHITE CIRCLE AROUND THE PERIMETER REPRESENTS ABOUT A HALF MILE RADIUS FROM THE PROPOSED TOWER.
THE PROPOSED TOWER LOCATION IS IDENTIFIED GENERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP WITH A YELLOW STAR.
THERE'S A SERIES OF ARROWS WITH NUMBERS SURROUNDING THAT SITE.
UM, THE, ALL THE ARROWS AND NUMBERS REPRESENT PHOTOGRAPH LOCATIONS THAT WERE OBTAINED.
THE WHITE ARROWS REPRESENT LOCATIONS WHERE WE VISITED, WHERE THE TOWER WAS NOT VISIBLE, UH, AND THE YELLOW ARROWS REPRESENT LOCATIONS THAT WE VISITED WHERE THE TOWER WOULD BE VISIBLE.
UM, JUST REFERRING TO THIS KEY MAP, I HEARD TESTIMONY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE OTHER PROFESSIONALS REGARDING THE SITE AND LOCATION.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED, THE PROPOSED TOWER AND THE MAINTENANCE YARD ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOLF COURSE.
AND WHAT YOU SEE IS THIS VERY LARGE WOODED AREA SURROUNDING THE SITE.
SO GENERALLY JUST DESCRIBING THE KEY MAP, THE WHITE ARROWS, I'M SORRY, BACK A LITTLE BIT.
THE WHITE ARROWS THAT ARE SHOWN AT A DISTANCE ARE, ARE, ARE BASICALLY NOT VISIBLE, AND IN MY OPINION, THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THE, OF THE WOODLAND AREA.
UH, THERE'S GENERALLY, UH, I THINK, UH, LOOKING AT THIS MAP TO THE, ABOUT 400 FOOT OF WOOD, FOUR TO 600 FOOT OF WOODLAND TO THE EAST, UH, 400 FEET TO THE SOUTH, AND I THINK 800 FEET TO THE NORTH.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF SUBSTANTIAL WOODLAND VEGETATION THAT REALLY HELPS SCREEN THIS TOWER FROM THE PERIMETER.
UH, AND THE SURROUNDINGS AT THE TOP OF THIS MAP VIEWS 10 AND 11.
UM, THOSE, WE, WE TYPICALLY SEE THAT THEY ARE VISIBLE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT HALF MILE RADIUS.
AND THE REASON YOU CAN SEE THEM FROM THAT LOCATION IS BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING BLOCKING YOUR VIEW IN THE FOREGROUND.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN FIELD, A LOT OF OPEN SPACE.
SO THE PERSPECTIVE AND SIGHT LINE ALLOWS YOU TO SEE THAT TOWER.
BUT ONCE YOU'RE AT, YOU HAVE THAT QUARTER MILE OR THAT HALF MILE RADIUS.
THE TOWER IS LIKE A, A BLIP IN THE SKYLINE.
YOU DON'T REALLY NOTICE IT, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE OTHER UTILITY POLES, UTILITY LINES IN THE AREA.
SO WHERE WE DO NOTICE IT IS RIGHT ALONG, UH, HEMLINE ROAD AND IN THIS AREA, AND THAT'S WHERE WE FOCUS MOST OF OUR, OUR PHOTOGRAPHS.
UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU SEE THIS TOWER FROM GULF VIEW DRIVE? WE DID GO INTO THE GOLF COURSE AND INTO THE CLUBHOUSE AREA, AND THAT WAS REALLY OUR FIRST VIEW TO SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AND SEPARATION, UH, FROM THAT VIEW TO THE PROPOSED TOWER, UH, AND ALL THE VEGETATION THAT'S IN BETWEEN THAT, UM, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THE TOWER WOULD BE VISIBLE IN THAT AREA.
UM, OTHER SIMULATIONS THAT WE, WE REFERRED TO HERE, UH, UH, WE PROVIDED, UH, REFERENCES OF, OF, OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, EVEN WHERE THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE, UH, JUST TO HELP EXPLAIN WHERE WE WERE AND TO REALLY SHOW WHY THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE.
AND, AND THE REASON IS GENERALLY BECAUSE OF THE VEGETATION.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DID THIS PHOTOGRAPHIC INVENTORY, UH, IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
SO WE DID IT AT A POINT IN TIME WHERE THERE WAS NO LEAVES ON THE TREE, UM, FOR THE DECIDUOUS TREES ANYWAY.
UH, SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY MAXIMIZE THE VIEW OF THE TOWER.
UM, SO IN A LOT OF THE VIEWS WHERE THE TOWER IS VISIBLE THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE, IT'S VISIBLE, BUT IT'S VISIBLE BEHIND THOSE TREES.
SO WHILE IT WOULD BE VISIBLE IN A WINTER VIEW, UH, IN TIMES LIKE, UH, TODAY WITH ALL THE LEAVES ON THE TREES, UH, WOULD NOT BE VERY VISIBLE.
UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, VIEW 15, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IS KIND OF THE, A DIRECT LINE OF, OF VISIBILITY RIGHT INTO THE MAINTENANCE YARD.
UH, THE, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO BRING OUT JUST THE SIGHTING OF THE TOWER ON
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THE PROJECT SITE.UH, IT IS VERY WELL DONE AND APPROPRIATE.
ESSENTIALLY THE COMPOUND THAT WAS DESCRIBED BY THE ENGINEER IS GONNA BE LOCATED BEHIND THE BUILDING.
SO THE, THE TOWER ITSELF IS ALMOST 300 FEET OFF THE ROADWAY, BUT IT'S BEHIND THAT BUILDING.
SO THE BUILDING SET, YOU KNOW, SERVES AS A NATURAL BUFFER FOR THE GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PHOTOS SIMS AND THE VANTAGE POINTS AND EXPLANATIONS FOR MR. DALE? IS THERE A, IF THIS 140 FOOT TOWER FELL, HOW MANY OTHER BUILDINGS BESIDES THE RED BUILDING YOU'RE GONNA GET, ARE IN THAT FALL ZONE, IF ANY? I CAN HAVE OUR ENGINEER, UM, ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
GOT THE WRONG ONE, BUT SORRY ABOUT THAT.
YOU WANNA JUST, PERHAPS JOSHUA CAN JUST PUT A, A STATEMENT ON THE RECORD ADDRESSING THAT QUESTION.
YEAH, JUST, I'M JUST GONNA SCALE IT OFF HERE.
UH, WELL, IS THE FALL ZONE 140 FEET, THE TOWER'S 140 FEET, IS THAT, IS THERE, IS THAT THE SAME TO TAKE FALLS? I MEAN, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, NOT, NOT REALLY.
AND THE REASON WHY IS ONE, THE TOWER IS DESIGNED PER BUILDING CODE FOR THE, UM, TELECOMMUNICATION INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.
SO IT'S DESIGNED FOR WIND SPEED, UM, DICTATED BY, UH, BUILDING CODES.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO FAIL.
UM, IF IT DID FAIL, UM, IT'S A STEEL STRUCTURE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ASTRONOMICAL WIND EVENT, UH, BASICALLY THE STEEL WILL BEND, UM, AND THE FAILURE OF STEEL IS WHEN IT BENDS TO A POINT WHERE IT DOESN'T RETURN TO ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION.
SO HOW, UM, HOW THIS STRUCTURE WOULD FAIL? IS IT, IT WOULD KINK, UM, AND WHEN IT KINKS IT, IT WOULD, THE WIND FACE WOULD DECREASE AND THE LOADING ON THE, ON THE, UH, TOWER AS A WHOLE WOULD DECREASE AS WELL.
NOW, IF THERE WAS ADDITIONAL LOADING ON IT WHERE IT FORCED IT TO, TO ACTUALLY KINK ALL THE WAY OVER TO FAIL, UM, TO TOTALLY SHEAR, UM, USUALLY THAT FAILURE POINT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE MID SPAN OF THE TOWER AND NOT NECESSARILY AT THE BASE.
SO THE FALL ZONE WOULDN'T REALLY BE 140 FEET.
IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 70 FEET OR SO.
UM, EACH STRUCTURE IS DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY.
UM, THAT'S JUST A GENERAL, UM, UM, STATEMENT.
UM, BUT I COULD GIVE YOU A DISTANCE OF 140 FEET AND WHAT, WHAT STRUCTURES ARE WITHIN THAT 140 FEET, IF YOU'D LIKE, WHICH SHOULD JUST BE THAT RED BUILDING IN THE FRONT.
IS THAT NOT ACCURATE? UH, SO YES.
SO THE, THE LARGER GRAY BUILDING SHOWN ON THE PLAN IS THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
UM, I DON'T, WELL, WE GET TO THE STREET 'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY A, A 75 FOOT SETBACK, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, NO, NOT SETBACK.
WE'RE, WE HAVE A, A 286 FOOT SETBACK TO THE STREET.
OH, I'M SORRY, 90 FOOT I WAS READING.
YEAH, SO, SO IT WOULD ONLY IMPACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD MAYBE, UH, THIS SMALL SHED HERE IN THE, IN THE CENTER OF THE, UH, PROPERTY IS WITHIN 140 FEET, BUT NO OTHER, NO OTHER BUILDING'S OFF THE PROPERTY? NO, NO BUILDINGS OFF THE PROPERTY OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, JUST THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING IN THAT SMALLER SHED IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.
MICHELLE, DO YOU SEE WHERE I WAS LIKE LOOKING AT 90 FOOT AS THE SETBACK? I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT.
WELL, IT'S NOT SETBACK IN THAT LOCATION.
WHY DON'T YOU TELL 'EM HOW FAR AWAY IT IS FROM AL LINE ROAD? YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
UH, IT'S FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
SO THE CENTER OF THE TOWER IS 286.5 FEET FROM HIAL LINE ROAD.
SIMILAR QUESTION IN REGARDS TO SAFETY.
UM, GIVEN THE MAP, UH, OFF OF STOKES ROAD, BROWN ROAD, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN FIELDS FARMERS.
UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY RESEARCH OR LOOKING IN OR ANY LOOK, HAS IT BEEN LOOKED INTO WHICH FARMS IN THE AREA ARE USING, UH, AERIAL CROP DUSTING, AND WHAT MEASURES ARE PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT AT THAT 140 FOOT, WHICH PLANES ARE FLYING, UM, THAT HAS, HOW HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED? UM, SO SURE.
PART OF THE, UH, FCC APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO,
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UM, ANY HAZARDS TO AIR NAVIGATION.AND THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE FAA.
UM, NOT SURE IF THAT'S BEEN DONE YET, BUT I ACTUALLY IT HAS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE AND IT CAME BACK THAT THERE IS NO HAZARD TO AIR NAVIGATION.
UM, SO THE HEIGHT OF THIS TOWER IS, IS OKAY.
AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY LIGHTING OR ANY OTHER KIND OF, UM, NOTIFICATIONS TO THE FAA REGULAR AIR TRAFFIC I'M SURE HAS, HAS, UM, AERIAL CROP DUSTING BEEN CONSIDERED AS PART OF THAT? UM, ANY THAT, ANY, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LOCAL CROSS, YOU KNOW, ANY, BUT ANY AIRPORT THAT'S REGISTERED WITH THE FAA IN THE AREA IS LOOKED AT.
AND THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE, UH, THE BOARD WITH A COPY OF THAT FAA NO HAZARD LETTER.
I MEAN, ALL TOWERS THAT TALL HAVE TO HAVE A RED LIGHT ON TOP.
RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S N NO TYP TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION, UH, BUT TYPICALLY ANYTHING, UH, LESS THAN 200 FEET DOES NOT REQUIRE IT.
UH, UNLESS YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE PATH OF A RUNWAY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, I THINK WHAT HE'S BRINGING IN A QUESTION I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IS THAT IF THOSE FILLS THAT YOU HAVE OFF OF STOKES, AND IF YOU HAD A CROP DUSTER, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LOW THEY, THEY'RE PRETTY LOW.
SO, AND IF THERE'S NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE THE INDICATED LIGHTS ON TOP OF IT, IT'S ALL TIME.
SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT CROP DUSTER, IT'S, IT, IT'S VAGUE, BUT THERE'S A YEAH, I WAS THINKING MORE OF DAYTIME.
UM, THIS IS DAYTIME, DAYTIME VISIBILITY.
I MEAN, ANY AIRCRAFT, UM, THAT FLIES IN THE AREA ALSO HAS FAA REGULATIONS THEY MUST FOLLOW MM-HMM
UM, AT CERTAIN HEIGHTS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO FLY AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE FIELDS ARE ACTIVE FARMING FIELDS.
I MEAN, THEY CAN ALWAYS CHANGE, BUT MM-HMM
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CUTTRELL? HEARING NONE, I'LL GO BACK TO MR. DEL.
YOU CAN RESUME HIS, UH, TESTIMONY.
YOU KNOW, I THINK JUST TO KIND OF FINALIZE THAT, 'CAUSE I, I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK WE TOTALLY CLOSED THE LOOP ON THAT ONE.
IS IF YOU COULD, IF YOU DID TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THE, THE AGRICULTURAL AIRCRAFT IN THE AREA, IF THERE ARE NONE, THEN THERE'S NONE.
I MEAN, IF THERE'S NOT EXPECTED TO BE ANY, IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO IDENTIFY THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD TO KNOW.
UM, IF NOT, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, IF THERE IS, THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING FROM FAA OR WHOEVER THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
MY QUESTION MORE IS MORE OF AN IF I, I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHETHER ANY POLITICAL YEAH, WE DON'T KNOW.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW.
I MEAN, IF, IF YOU TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, LET US KNOW.
AND, AND THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE, THE, THE CARRIERS ARE REQUIRED TO GET AN FAA DETERMINATION, RIGHT.
WHETHER THEY'RE, LIKE, AS HE SAID, IF IT'S CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AN AIRPORT, IF, IF YOU'RE CLOSE TO A RUNWAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF LIGHTING.
UH, OTHERWISE ANYTHING BELOW 200 FEET TYPICALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE LIGHTING.
HOWEVER, ANY AIRCRAFT, AND I WOULD PRESUME PROP CROP DUSTERS AS WELL.
THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE ALSO BRIEFED, UH, OF ANY FAA NO HAZARD FLY STRUCTURES, UH, OR ANY TALL STRUCTURES WITHIN THEIR PROXIMITY THAT THEY INTEND TO FLY.
SO I WOULD THINK CROP DUSTERS, UM, ALSO NEED TO REGISTER WITH THE FAA AT PROBABLY THE SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT OR THE FLYING W WHERE THEY WOULD TAKE OFF LOCAL, LOCALLY.
UH, AND I BELIEVE THOSE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SHARED TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UM, WITH THE, UH, REGIONAL AIRPORTS AND ANY CROP DUSTERS WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE PROTOCOLS, GUIDELINES, AND ANYTHING THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE LOCAL VICINITY BETTER.
UH, ASIDE FROM THE, THE PHOTO SIMULATIONS THAT I PRESENTED EARLIER, JUST A REVIEW OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TOWERS AND WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES THAT SUCH AS BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS APPLICATION ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY REGULATED IN THE TOWNSHIP AND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
UH, THERE ARE A FEW STANDARDS THAT DO REFERENCE TOWERS, AND I BRING THAT UP, UH, JUST 'CAUSE I LOOKED AT THOSE STANDARDS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS THAT REFER TO TOWERS AND OR THAT REFER TO THE HEIGHT OF ANY TOWER OR SIMILAR STRUCTURE SHALL NOT EXCEED THE DISTANCE FROM THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINE TO THE BASE OF THE TOWER OR STRUCTURE, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF AMATEUR
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RADIO ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURES.AND YOU GO TO THE STANDARDS FOR THOSE RADIO ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURES, THEY DO PERMIT A 100 FOOT STRUCTURE HEIGHT.
THEY ALLOW A 20 FOOT SETBACK FROM SIDE AND REAR LOT LINES.
UH, AND THERE ARE PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW YOU TO EXCEED THAT 100 FOOT HEIGHT REGULATION.
UH, AND BASICALLY THERE'S, IT DOES PROHIBIT THOSE STRUCTURES IN THE FRONT YARD.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TAUNTON TUCKERTON REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE TOWER IN THAT LOCATION.
THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR TOWERS AND WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY IN THOSE REGULATIONS.
UH, I DID REVIEW THOSE REGULATIONS AND GENERALLY THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE MOST PART CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF THOSE STANDARDS, UH, BY PROTECTING RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND LAND USES FROM POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS OF SITING OF TOWERS FACILITATE THE PROVISION OF WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND EMERGENCY SERVICES OF THE TOWNSHIP, MINIMIZING THE ADVERSE VISUAL IMPACTS OR EFFECTS OF TOWERS THROUGH CAREFUL DESIGN AND SITING STANDARDS.
ALSO IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS REQUIRING A GALVANIZED STEEL FINISH, A MONOPOLE DESIGN, A MAXIMUM 10 FOOT FENCE HEIGHT, AND A 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM PUBLIC STREET.
SO WE HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE ENGINEER, THE PROPOSED TOWER SETBACK, YOU KNOW, 200 AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 287 FEET.
SO WE'RE GENERALLY AT THAT 300 FOOT, UH, REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE STANDARDS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, SO REGARDING THE VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUIRED HERE, SORRY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A USE VARIANCE BECAUSE THE SITE IS NOT PERMITTED IN THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A USE VARIANCE THAT'S REQUIRED TO PERMIT MORE THAN ONE PRINCIPAL USE ON A LOT, UH, REQUESTING A D SIX HEIGHT VARIANCE TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO EXCEED THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS 35 FEET.
UM, AND THEN, UH, BULK VARIANCES FOR REAR YARD SETBACK.
UH, SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE LOT COVERAGE AND, UH, POTENTIALLY BULK VARIANCES TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS, UH, THAT ARE APPLICABLE IN THE HEIGHT EXCEPTION, UM, THAT I REFERENCED THERE.
SO UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A USE VARIANCE NEEDS NEEDS TO BE SHOWN THAT THE SITE IS PARTICULARLY SUITED FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
UH, YOU HEARD TESTIMONY FROM THE RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEER THAT THIS, UH, REALLY CREATES A CENTRAL LOCATION AS A HANDOFF FOR THE TWO ADJACENT TOWERS AND, UH, A CENTRAL NODE BETWEEN THOSE.
UH, REFERRING BACK TO THE KEY MAP OF EXHIBIT A ONE, I THINK THIS IS A VERY APPROPRIATE LOCATION IN TERMS OF LIMITING, UH, VISIBILITY FROM MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND ALSO CITING THAT TOWER IN AN AREA THAT'S SURROUNDED BY DENSE, MATURE VEGETATION, UH, THAT HAS THAT SUBSTANTIAL SCREENING.
AND ALSO THE SUBSTANTIAL SETBACK FROM, UH, HEMAL LINE ROAD WITH WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY SUBSTANTIAL DISTURBANCE OR DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE ITSELF.
AND BASICALLY A PREVIOUSLY DESERVED DISTURBED SITE WITH THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, UH, DO BELIEVE THE VARIANCE WILL ADVANCE THE PURPOSE OF ZONING AND ENHANCE THE GENERAL WELFARE.
UH, THE COURTS HAVE DETERMINED THAT, UH, APPLICANT VERIZON, UH, HOLDING THE FCC LICENSE DOES SERVE THE GENERAL WELFARE PURPOSES.
A SPECIFICALLY, UM, BECAUSE IT DOES JUST THAT IT SERVES THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND THE PUBLIC WELFARE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, I DO BELIEVE IT ALSO ADDRESSES, UH, PURPOSE I BY PROVIDING A DESIRABLE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT THROUGH THE CREATIVE DESIGN OF THE SITE AND SETBACKS FROM ROADWAYS AND PURPOSE M BY REDUCING DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND MAKING EFFICIENT USE OF LAND BY MINIMIZING THE SITE OR DISTURBANCE AND CITING THE TOWER WITH THE PROPOSED MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
UH, NO SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.
NO DUST, NO VIBRATION, NO ODORS.
UH, YOU MIGHT SEE A TECHNICIAN HERE, I'M NOT SURE IF THE ENGINEER REFERENCED IT, BUT, UH, FOUR TO SIX WEEKS MAYBE, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT SEE A TECHNICIAN VISIT THE SITE.
BUT NO SUBSTANTIAL TRAFFIC, UH, WILL BE BUILT INDUSTRY STANDARDS TESTIMONY REGARDING FAA COMPLIANCE.
UH, THE ONLY POTENTIAL IMPACT IN MY OPINION IS THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE, I'M SORRY, THE VISUAL IMPACT, BUT AGAIN, WITH THE CAREFUL SIGHTING THAT I EXPLAINED EARLIER AND THE SETBACK IN THE TREES, I BELIEVE THE MINI, THE VISUAL IMPACTS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY ADDRESSED, UH, WITH BUFFERING FROM THE TREES AND ALSO FROM THE EXISTING BUILDING LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE STREET THAT SCREENS THE GROUND MOUNTED EQUIPMENT, NO DETRIMENT TO THE ZONING PLAN OR ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, IDENTIFIED THE GENERAL STANDARDS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE
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TOWERS.UM, AND THIS IS GENERALLY COMPLIANT.
THE USE VARIANCE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING HERE WOULD GENERALLY BE REQUIRED ANYWHERE ELSE IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP, UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, UH, IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT IS NOT LISTED AS A PROHIBITED USE IN THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS WELL.
UH, REFERRING BACK TO THE HEIGHT VARIANCE THAT'S REQUESTED, AGAIN, AMATEUR RADIO TOWERS ARE PERMITTED WITH A HEIGHT OF 100 FEET WITH PROVISIONS IN THERE TO EXCEED THAT HEIGHT.
AND REGARDING THE BULK REGULATIONS, THEY'RE PERMITTED TO BE, THOSE AMATEUR RADIO ANTENNAS ARE PERMITTED TO BE WITHIN 20 FEET OF A ADJACENT PROPERTY LINE.
UH, SO THE APPLICATION IS, UH, PROVIDES SUBSTANTIALLY MORE SETBACK THAN THOSE APPLICATION OR THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, REGARDING THE BULK REGULATIONS, UH, THE BULK STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE ZONING DISTRICT HERE ARE REALLY APP APPLICABLE TO, UH, DWELLING UNITS AND RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AND RATHER THAN, UH, COMMERCIAL USES OR, OR EVEN THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.
SO THERE, THERE'S NO DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES.
UM, AND THE LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT, WHAT WE'RE SLIGHTLY EXCEEDING THAT, UH, THE, UH, 15% LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT IS APPLICABLE TO LOTS WITH ON LOT SEPTIC.
HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THE ON LOT STANDARDS, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, STANDARDS FOR LOTS WITH PUBLIC SEWER, THOSE LOTS ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE A 30% IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UH, SO THE SLIGHT INCREASE THAT'S RESULTS FROM THE TOWER HERE, I BELIEVE IT IS MINIMAL.
UH, SO AFTER REVIEWING THE POSITIVE NE NEGATIVE CRITERIA, ALL THE STANDARDS FOR THIS, I DO BELIEVE THE POSITIVES OF THE APPLICATION, THE INCREASED IMPROVED COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY OUTWEIGH ANY POTENTIAL NEGATIVES.
AND THE APPLICATION, IN MY OPINION IS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION IS WARRANTED.
I DON'T THINK WE TOUCHED ON NOISE, ALTHOUGH I, I DON'T THINK, I ASSUME THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MUCH NOISE OTHER THAN THE, THE GENERATOR.
UH, GENERALLY, UM, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THESE, UH, THE TESTIMONY IS TYPICALLY PROVIDED THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S RUNNING GENERALLY SOUND WHEN YOU'RE NEXT TO IT GENERALLY SOUNDS LIKE A REFRIGERATOR IN TERMS OF A, A COOLING FAN THAT MAY BE LOCATED THERE.
BUT IT'S GENERALLY QUIET, IT'S NOT NOISY.
UH, AND LAY DID SAY IT'S NOT MANNED SO THAT THERE'S NO TRAFFIC, UH, THERE'S NO ODORS, THERE'S NO ONSITE STORAGE OF ANY TRASH OR DEBRIS, UH, THAT IS HANDLED WITHIN THE TOWER COMPOUND HERE.
SO, UH, THE ONLY NOISE THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM THIS WOULD BE FROM THE BACKUP GENERATOR IN THE CASE OF EMERGENCIES AND OCCASIONAL TESTING, UH, FOR THE GENERATOR.
AND THE, AGAIN, MY EXPERIENCE, THAT GENERATOR WOULD BE RUN TESTED, UM, DAYTIME HOURS, UM, I BELIEVE PROBABLY FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES OR SO.
UH, BUT IT WOULD BE IN DAYTIME HOURS WHEN THERE'S NO IMPACT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO RESIDENTS GENERALLY WHEN THERE ANYBODY WOULD BE IN THE AREA.
AND WHAT, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, UH, BRIAN, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL LOCAL AND STATE NOISE STANDARDS, THERE ARE NOISE STANDARDS, UH, AND THIS APPLICATION WILL COMPLY WITH BOTH.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT'S PLANNER? MS. TAYLOR, DID YOU HAVE ANY? NO.
I CAN PROVIDE A QUICK SUMMATION OR DID YOU NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO THE YEAH, LET'S OPEN IT UP FIRST.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE OPEN UP? SURE, GO AHEAD.
UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE OPEN IT.
SO WHY IS IT A 30 KILOWATT GENERATOR? LIKE FOR LIKE, FOR, FOR A REGULAR HOME, IT'S GONNA BE A SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER GENERATOR, BUT WHAT'S DRAWING THAT MUCH POWER THAT'S ACTUALLY WARRANTING A 30 KILOWATT GENERATOR? UH, TYPICALLY IF THAT'S AN INDUSTRY STANDARD, BUT I CAN BRING MR. TRELL UP TO MAYBE PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL REGARDING THAT.
SO, SO TYPICALLY EACH, EACH CARRIER WILL HAVE A 200 AMP SERVICE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT A HOME WOULD HAVE.
UM, AND THEY JUST DETERMINE THAT BASED ON ALL THE RADIO EQUIPMENT THAT RUNS, UM, CONTINUOUSLY, UH, SO THEY DETERMINE THE 30 KW IS APPROPRIATE TO KEEP THE FACILITY RUNNING AT ITS AT ITS HIGHEST CAPACITY.
UM, LOTS OF TIMES THE CELL CAR, THE, THE EQUIPMENT DOESN'T RUN AT THE HIGHEST CAPACITY, BUT THEY STILL SIZE THE GENERATORS AND THEIR, AND THEIR SERVICE METER TO, UM, MEET THAT HIGHEST CAPACITY THAT THE SITE COULDN'T, COULD SEE.
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SO THAT'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO BE INCREASED WHEN TWO OTHER CARRIERS COME IN.THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN, THEY'LL YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN GENERATOR ALSO.
NO, THIS JUST GENERATORS JUST FOR VERIZON.
AND ALL CARRIERS DON'T NECESSARILY, UH, PROVIDE GENERATORS, SO THEY MAY OR MAY NOT USE GENERATORS.
THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION OF, UH, MOBILE GENERATORS.
SO SOME SITES HAVE A GENERATOR PLUG, IF YOU WILL, AND IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.
AND THE FCC REQUIRES CARRIERS TO HAVE SOME FORM OF BACKUP POWER IN THE EVENT OF EMERGENCY.
'CAUSE THE SITES CAN'T GO OFF AIR.
UH, TYPICALLY A, A MOBILE GENERATOR WILL BE BROUGHT IN BY A LOCAL TECHNICIAN AND KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLUG IT IN AND THE MOBILE GENERATOR WILL PROVIDE THAT PARTICULAR BACKUP POWER TEMPORARILY UNTIL POWER.
THEY WOULDN'T COMBINE IT AS TO ONE 50 WAT TO DO ALL THREE OR FOUR CARRIERS VERY RARELY.
SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION GOING BACK TO THE NOISE POINT THAT IF, IF ONE GENERATOR COMPLIES WITH LANDSCAPE, UH, NOISE, UM, UH, LAWS UNDER PLACE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT DECIBEL LEVEL WISE WITH THREE GENERATORS OPERATING SIMULTANEOUSLY? AND IS THE, UH, EXPERT CONFIDENT THAT THAT WILL ALSO COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS? UM, SO HOW THE PHYSICS OF NOISE WORKS IS, UM, SO THIS GENERATOR WOULD BE AT, UM, UH, IT'S GOTTA BE 80 OR 90.
NO, IT, UH, SHOOT, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE DECIBEL OF THIS, UH, 50.
WELL THE, THE REQUIREMENT IS TO MEET 65 DBA AT THE PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT? SO I THINK THIS, THIS GENERATOR IS A LITTLE BIT LESS, I THINK IT'S 60 DBA AT MOST AT, AT THE MOST AT 20, MEASURED AT 23 FEET, RIGHT? SO IF THIS GENERATOR IS 60 DBA 23 FEET, UM, THE WAY THE PHYSICS WORKS IS WHEN YOU ADD A SECONDARY SOURCE AT THE SAME 60 DBA IT, IT'S NOT 120 DBA AT THAT 23 FEET, IT'LL BE 3D, BA MORE.
SO IT'S, IT'S ONLY, UH, IT'LL BE 60 3D, BA OR YEAH, 53, YEAH.
AND WHEN YOU ADD A THIRD ONE, UM, IT'S MORE, IT'LL ONLY ADD ABOUT ANOTHER ONE, D, B, A OR SO ABOUT THAT.
SO IT'S, UH, SO WITH THREE RUNNING, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT STAYS BELOW
BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
DOES ANYONE FROM THE BOARD HAVE ANY OKAY, THEN I NEED A MOTION TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC MOTION TO OPEN.
IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COME SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, YOU CAN COME FORWARD NOW TO DO SO.
I LIVE IN MEDFORD, UH, SIX HUFF COURT.
MR. CARRI, YOU NEED TO BE SWORN.
YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY GOOD TO THE BOARD WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
UM, WAS ICING CONSIDERED FOR, YOU KNOW, SECURE, FOR STABLE FOR STA STABILIZATION? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT WIND.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SEVERE, YOU KNOW, WINTER STORMS. WE HAD A REALLY BAD ICE STORM RECENTLY AND THE WEIGHT OF THAT AND THAT ICE STORM STAYED FOR QUITE SOME TIME, LIKE OVER A MONTH.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED.
SO, SO AS PART OF THE, THE CODE REQUIREMENT, UM, YOU DIS THE POLE HAS TO BE DESIGNED FOR A MAXIMUM VELOCITY WIND.
UH, BUT ALSO IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED, UH, CONSIDERING A ONE INCH THICK RADIAL ICE ON THE TOWER AND ALL THE APPURTENANCES ON THAT TOWER AS WELL.
SO YES, ICE IS CONSIDERED WHEN DESIGNING IT.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD IS THE, THE SITE HAS TO BE SECURED, SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF FENCING.
HOW MUCH OF THE SITE NEEDS TO BE SECURED AND WHAT KIND OF SECURING DO YOU USE? SURE.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE TOWER, UM, I THINK, ARE WE GOING UP TO EIGHT FEET ON THAT TOWER? THE FENCE? YEAH.
EIGHT TO 10, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE REQUESTED.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE TOWER ITSELF, YOU KNOW, HAS TA HAS CLIMBING LEGS ON IT.
UM, BUT THOSE, THOSE CLIMBING PEGS DON'T START UNTIL ABOUT 20 FEET UP ON THE TOWER.
SO THIS WAY, UM, UH, IF YOU DID WANT TO REACH THAT, YOU
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WOULD HAVE TO BRING A VERY LARGE TOWER TO START CLIMBING IT.SO THAT'S ANOTHER SAFETY, UH, FEATURE ON IT.
UM, AND THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THIS ALREADY, I KIND OF MISSED THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, BUT, UM, FOR THE AESTHETICS PART OF IT, A LOT OF TOWERS, ESPECIALLY TOWERS AT THIS HEIGHT, THEY TRY TO AESTHETICALLY MAKE IT DRESSED UP TO LOOK LIKE MAYBE IN, LIKE IN THIS CASE, MAYBE A TREE.
UM, HAS ANY OF THAT BEEN CONSIDERED TO KIND OF DISGUISE THE TOWER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A DISTANCE YOU JUST DON'T SEE A, A POLE, YOU SEE SORT OF A DISGUISED PINE, BARREN TREE? SAY FOR INSTANCE, I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT VERIZON DID FIRST WITH EASTERN WIRELESS IS TALK TO THE PINELANDS.
UH, THERE ARE, I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO MAYBE THE TREE POLES OR SOMETIMES THEY'RE CALLED MONO PINES, AND THEY RESEMBLE A VERY, VERY TALL EVERGREEN.
NOW, TYPICALLY THE PINELANDS, AND THEY TOLD US THIS, UH, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A, MAYBE YOU'LL HAVE A 60 OR 70 FOOT TREE CANOPY, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THIS BIG 140 FOOT ARTIFICIAL TREE THAT REALLY LOOKS MORE CONSPICUOUS, UH, THAN HAVING A FAKE TREE, IF YOU WILL.
UH, SO TYPICALLY THE, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS FOR A LONG TIME, UH, WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, TYPES OF, UH, FINISHES FOR THE TOWER AND ALL OF THE TOWERS, I BELIEVE ABSENT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CO-LOCATIONS ON WATER TANKS IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP, AND I BELIEVE IN MOUNT LAUREL AND, AND, UH, MARTON SURROUNDING ARE GALVANIZED STEEL.
SO TYPICALLY ONCE THESE THINGS ARE BUILT, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THEM AND AFTER A WHILE YOU PROBABLY DON'T SEE THEM.
UH, BUT IT USUALLY IS A, UM, INDUSTRY STANDARD.
IT'S USUALLY A GALVANIZED STEEL POLE, UH, IS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, PROBABLY LESS INTRUSIVE THAN A BIG TREE, UH, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THAT STICKS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE STANDARD GALVANIZED POLE.
SO IT WAS CONSIDERED TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION AND QUERY.
UH, CERTAINLY, UH, WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE PINELANDS.
AND OF ALL THE TOWERS, I THINK I'VE EVER WORKED WITH THE PINELANDS.
I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER RECOMMENDED A, AN EVERGREEN.
NOW UP NORTH IN THE HIGHLANDS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UH, BOARD, DIFFERENT GROUP.
BUT IN THE PINELANDS IN SOUTH JERSEY AND BURLINGTON COUNTY AND, AND DOWN IN CAMDEN AND GLOUCESTER, TYPICALLY THEY, THEY PREFER A GALVANIZED STEEL POLE.
UM, I, I THINK IT PROBABLY WOULD LOOK BETTER THAN A STEEL POLE.
I HAVE SEEN THEM STEEL PULL AND NOT, BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AIRCRAFT AND UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE THE FAA RULES, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE EMERGENCIES LIKE EMERGENCY HELICOPTER ROUTE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS IN THE PATH OF WHAT IT CONSIDERED EMERGENCY HELICOPTER ROUTE, BECAUSE IT COULD, YOU KNOW, HELICOPTER COULD FLY STRAIGHT DOWN THROUGH MAIN STREET OF MEDFORD TO GET TO A LOCATION IF IT WAS AN EMERGENCY AND THAT POLE WOULD BE THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GETS HANDLED, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN THAT I HAD.
BUT THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU FOR HOW MANY.
ANY, ANYONE ELSE?
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, THE BOARD TONIGHT HAS HEARD TESTIMONY FROM EXPERTS REGARDING, UH, EASTERN WIRELESS AND THEIR ANCHOR TENANT VERIZON WIRELESS'S NEED, UH, TO FILL A GAP IN COVERAGE AND CAPACITY.
UH, A, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS IDENTIFIED, UH, A WILLING LANDLORD, UH, WITH A SITE IN A NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONE IN THE CENTER OF ITS GAP.
UH, THE APPLICANT CHOSE, UH, YOU HEARD TESTIMONY IN TERMS OF HOW THE APPLICANT ARRIVED AT THE HEIGHT OF 140 FEET FOR 137 FOOT CENTER LINE, UH, OF THE ANTENNAS.
APPLICANT SHOWS THE MINIMUM HEIGHT NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE ITS GAP IN COVERAGE AND CAPACITY.
UH, AGAIN, FOLLOWING THE LAND USE STANDARDS OF USING THE LEAST INTRUSIVE MEANS TO TRY TO FILL THIS GAP IN COVERAGE.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, THE ANCHOR TENANT, AGAIN, VERIZON HAS AN SEC LICENSE.
UH, IT HAS APPEARED, UM, TO THIS, WITH THIS, UH, PROJECT TO THE TOWNSHIP BEFORE, AND, UH, IDENTIFIED THIS GAP IN COVERAGE IN PREVIOUS TESTIMONY.
UH, BUT THIS SITE WAS PARTICULARLY WELL SUITED AS YOU HEARD.
OUR PLANNER TESTIFY, UH, AS DESIGNED TO, UM, MEET THE, THE NEEDS OF THE APPLICANT'S ANCHOR TENANT.
UH, THE TOWER WILL COMPLY WITH ALL FEDERAL REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF EMISSIONS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT WAS HAPPY TO PROVIDE A BOARD WITH A COPY OF ANY RELEVANT FCC COMPLIANCE REPORTS OR FAA NO HAZARD LETTERS, UH, AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UH, AND THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, UH, HAS MET THE STANDARDS FOR D ONE USE
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VARIANCE.YOU ALSO HEARD TESTIMONY ABOUT A A D SIX HEIGHT VARIANCE, UH, WHICH WAS SUBSUMED IN THE TESTIMONY OF THE D ONE USE VARIANCE BY OUR PLANNER, MR. DEL.
UH, AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE BULK VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS DUE TO THE, THE SETBACKS, UH, THE APPLICANT HEREBY RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THE RELIEF REQUIRED.
UH, D ONE USED VARIANCE TOGETHER WITH PRELIMINARY AND FINAL MAJOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AND THE APPLICANT AGREES TO WORK WITH THE MUNICIPAL TEAM, UH, AND MS. TAYLOR AND, AND, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE FENCING, WITH REGARD TO ANY OTHER, UH, INFORMATION, UH, THAT, UH, MR. DARZI, UH, MENTIONED, UH, EARLIER AS WELL.
MS. TAYLOR, WERE YOU STILL WORKING ON ANY OTHER ISSUES WITH THE APPLICANT OTHER THAN FENCING YOU MENTIONED? I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WOULD COME UP IS, IS IN THE EVENT THAT ANY OF THE EXISTING TREES OR BUFFERS WERE, WERE DISTURBED, UM, THAT, THAT'S TO MY MIND, THE ONLY OTHER OUTSTANDING THING THAT, THAT CAN BE HANDLED, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FACT OKAY.
AND THEN IT WAS THE O AND M MANUAL.
THAT WAS THE ONLY OUTSTANDING.
WELL, THE STORM MANAGEMENT FOR THE WHOLE SITE TOO IS A QUESTION, RIGHT? YEAH.
UH, IT'S OPERA BY THE, IT'S THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE STORM MANAGEMENT ON THE SITE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
GUESS TO INCLUDE THE WHOLE SITE? YEAH.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT AGREES TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OF EACH OF THOSE EXPERTS.
ANYONE CAN FORWARD AS ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
CAN YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN PLEASE? MOTION SECOND.