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          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP COUNCIL. 
          THIS MEETING IS CALLED PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT. 
          THIS MEETING JANUARY 20TH, 2026, WAS INCLUDED IN A MEETING NOTICE SENT TO THE BERLINGTON COUNTY TIMES AND THE CENTRAL RECORD ON JANUARY 7TH, 2026, AND ADVERTISED AND SAID NEWSPAPERS ON JANUARY 11TH, 2026 AND JANUARY 15TH, 2026, RESPECTIVELY POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND ON THE BULLETIN BOARD OF THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING ON JANUARY 7TH, 2026, AND AS REMAINED CON, CONTINUOUSLY POSTED AS REQUIRED UNDER THE STATUTE. 
          IN ADDITION, A COPY OF THIS NOTICE IS AND HAS BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND IS ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE MUNICIPAL CLERK. 
          PLEASE RISE FOR THE FLAGS. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT EXPANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE PAROLE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MS. WICKER, PLEASE CALL THE RULE MS. SANOR. 
          HERE, MR. COX. 
          HERE. 
          MS. MILL. 
          HERE. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR . 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR C HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          [IV. Communications, Scheduling Matters, Council Agenda, Presentations and Any Amendments to the Agenda]
UH, NOW WE HAVE OUR COMMUNICATION SECTION. 
          UM, THIS EVENING WE HAD A SPECIAL PRESENTATION, A PROCLAMATION SET UP FOR MR. VELASCO, WHO IS OUR RETIRING CONSTRUCTION OFFICIAL. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, HE WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT, SO WE'LL POSTPONE THAT EVENT TO A LATER TIME. 
          UM, WE HAVE THREE VERY SPECIAL PROCLAMATIONS AS WELL TONIGHT FOR OUR OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UM, DONNA SIMONS, ERIC REP SOCK, AND CHUCK WATSON. 
          WE WILL BE COMING DOWN FRONT TO PRESENT THEM. 
          I AM GONNA TURN HI DONNA, HONORING DONNA SIMONS TONIGHT. 
          WHEREAS DONNA SIMONS HAS FAITHFULLY AND SELFLESSLY SERVED THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP WITH DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM, AND DEEP COMMITMENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE. 
          AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HER DISTINGUISHED TENURE, DONNA SIMONS HAS SERVED THE TOWNSHIP IN NUMEROUS LEADERSHIP CAPACITIES, INCLUDING AS DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN PLANNING BOARD MEMBER AND ZONING BOARD CHAIR, BRINGING THOUGHTFUL INSIGHT AND STEADY LEADERSHIP TO EACH ROLE. 
          AND WHEREAS AS DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILWOMAN, SHE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY TO ADVANCE THE PRIORITIES OF THE GOVERNING BODY WHILE ADVOCATING FOR RESPONSIBLE DECISION MAKING AND AND TRANSPARENCY. 
          AND WHEREAS, AS A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER AND ZONING BOARD CHAIR, DONNA PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN GUIDING DEVELOPMENT WITH FAIRNESS AND CARE, HELPING TO BALANCE GROWTH WITH THE PRESERVATION OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP'S CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HER SERVICE, DONNA SIMONS EARNED THE RESPECT AND APPRECIATION OF COLLEAGUES, MUNICIPAL PROFESSIONALS, AND RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT HER DILIGENCE, INTEGRITY, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND WHEREAS HER CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE LEFT A LASTING AND MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE GO GOVERNANCE, PLANNING, AND FUTURE OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. 
          NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL OF MEDFORD HEREBY RECOGNIZES AND EXTENDS ITS SINCERE GRATITUDE TO DONNA SIMONS FOR HER EXEMPLARY SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP TO THE TOWNSHIP, AND BE IT FURTHER PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL CONVEYS ITS BEST WISHES TO DONNA SIMONS FOR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND FULFILLMENT IN ALL FUTURE ENDEAVORS WITH DEEP APPRECIATION FOR HER MANY YEARS OF SERVICE IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. 
          PRESENTED JANUARY 20TH, 2026 BY THE MEDFORD TOWNSHIP COUNCIL, THE TOWNSHIP. 
          AND WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL PLAQUE PRESENTED THOSE BY PAUL AND PAUL THAT, AND THIS IS FOR YOU. 
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NEXT WE HAVE ERIC RESTOCK. 
          HOW YOU DOING, ERIC? ALL RIGHT. 
          PROCLAMATION HONORING ERIC RESTOCK. 
          WHEREAS ERIC RESTOCK HAS SERVED THE RESIDENTS OF METFORD TOWNSHIP WITH DEDICATION, INTEGRITY, AND A DEEP SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY, CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATING A STRONG COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND GOOD GOVERNANCE. 
          AND WHEREAS HIS TENURE, THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE, ERIC OC HAS HELD MULTIPLE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, INCLUDING MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, COUNCILMAN, AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, BRINGING THOUGHTFUL LEADERSHIP COLLABORATION, AND A STEADY PRESENCE TO THE GOVERNING, GOVERNING BODY. 
          AND WHEREAS AS MAYOR ERIC PROVIDED GUIDANCE AND LEADERSHIP DURING IMPORTANT MOMENTS OF THE TOWNSHIP WORKING TO FOSTER UNITY, TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHEREAS AS DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, HE CONTRIBUTED MEANINGFULLY TO THE POLICY DECISIONS AND MUNICIPAL INITIATIVES, ALLOWING, SORRY, ALWAYS APPROACHING HIS RESPONSIBILITIES WITH CARE, PROFESSIONALISM AND RESPECT FOR, FOR DIFFERING DIFFERING OPINIONS. 
          WHEREAS ERIC HAS EARNED THE RESPECT AND APPRECIATION OF FELLOW ELECTED OFFICIALS, MUNICIPAL STAFF, AND RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT HIS THOUGHT, HIS THROUGH HIS THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO LEADERSHIP AND HIS DEDICATION TO PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC GOOD. 
          WHEREAS HIS SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP HAVE MADE A LASTING AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON MEDFORD. 
          NOW FOR LET IT BE PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL OF MEDFORD HEREBY HONORS AND EXTENDS ITS SINCERE GRATITUDE TO ERIC RESTOCK FOR HIS EXEMPLARY SERVICE AS MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN, AND BE IT FURTHER PROCLAIMED THAT THE, THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL OFFERS ITS BEST WISH, WISHES TO ERIC RESTOCK FOR CONTINUED SUCCESS AND FULFILLMENT IN ALL HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS WITH DEEP APPRECIATION FOR HIS SERVICE TO MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          AND AGAIN, ANOTHER AMAZING CLAP THAT PAUL. 
          SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, MAYOR WATSON HAD A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT THIS EVENING. 
          IT WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT WE'D LIKE TO STILL HONOR HIM BY READING HIS PROCLAMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          HONORING CHARLES CHUCK WATSON. 
          WHEREAS CHARLES CHUCK WATSON HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD WITH DEDICATION, INTEGRITY, AND A DEEP COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE. 
          AND WHEREAS CHUCK HAS SERVED THE TOWNSHIP IN, IN MULTIPLE LEADERSHIP CAPACITIES, INCLUDING MAYOR COUNCILMAN AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, OFFERING STEADY GUIDANCE AND THOUGHTFUL DECISION MAKING THAT HAS HELPED SHAPE THE COMMUNITY'S GROWTH AND CHARACTER. 
          WHEREAS, AS MAYOR, HE PROVIDED PRINCIPLE PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP DURING PIVOTAL MOMENTS OF THE TOWNSHIP AS A COUNCILMAN. 
          AS HE, HE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY TO ADVANCE THE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES OF RESIDENTS AS A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER. 
          HE HELPED GUIDE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH WHILE PRESERVING MEDFORD'S UNIQUE CHARACTER. 
          WHEREAS CHUCK WATSON WAS A CATALYST FOR THE RE REVITALIZATION OF MAIN STREET. 
          IN HISTORICAL MEDFORD VILLAGE, CHAMPIONING INITIATIVES THAT SUPPORTED LOCAL BUSINESSES, ENCOURAGED COMMUNITY GATHERINGS AND HELP RESTORE THE VITALITY AND CHARM OF THE TOWN, THE TOWN'S HISTORICAL DISTRICT. 
          WHEREAS THROUGH HIS VISION, ADV ADVOCACY AND COMMITMENT, MAIN STREET HAS FLOURISHED AS A VIBRANT CENTERPIECE OF MEDFORD TOWNSHIP STRENGTHENING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHILE PRESERVING THE CHARACTER AND HISTORY THAT DEFINES THE VILLAGE. 
          WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HIS SERVICE, CHUCK HAS EARNED THE TRUST AND RESPECT OF COLLEAGUE, STAFF, AND RESIDENTS ALIKE THROUGH HIS DEDICATION, CIVILITY, AND COMMITMENT AND THOUGHTFUL GOVERNANCE. 
          AND WHEREAS HIS LEGACY OF SERVICE WILL BE REFLECTED NOT ONLY IN POLICIES AND PLANS, BUT IN THE ENDURING STRENGTH OF THE MEDFORD TOWNSHIP COMMUNITY, HE HELPED SHAPE NOW, NOW, NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL OF MEDFORD HEREBY HONORS AND EXTENDS ITS DEEPEST GRATITUDE TO CHARLES CHUCK WATSON FOR HIS EXEMPLARY SERVICE, LEADERSHIP, AND DEVOTION TO THE TOWNSHIP, AND BE IT FURTHER PROCLAIMED THAT THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL RECOGNIZES CHUCK WATSON'S LASTING CONTRIBUTIONS AND WISHES HIM CONTINUED FULFILLMENT AND SUCCESS IN HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS WITH SINCERE APPRECIATION THE MANY WAYS 
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HE HAS ENRICHED MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND PAUL, I THANK YOU FOR HIS CLAP AS WELL. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE THAT HE RECEIVES IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WE'LL TAKE A QUICK TWO MINUTE BREAK FOR PICTURES IF YOU'D LIKE THEM. 
          OKAY. 
           ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE THE MEETING. 
          UH, OUR NEXT SECTION IS COMMUNICATIONS. 
          I HAVE A FEW TO START. 
          UM, FIRST, UM, I'D LIKE TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT MAYOR WATSON, IN CONJUNCTION WITH HIS FAMILY, HAS MADE THE DECISION TO STEP DOWN FROM THE PLANNING BOARD APPOINTMENT THAT HE WAS GIVEN. 
          UH, HE HAS MADE THIS DECISION TO ALLOW FOR THE TOWN TO FOCUS CLEARLY ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NOT ALLOW ANY DISTRACTIONS FROM THE IMPORTANT WORK HE KNOWS MUST BE DONE HERE. 
          UM, SECOND ITEM IS, AS NOTED AS AT LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WE ARE STILL RECEIVING APPLICATIONS FOR VACANCIES FOR BOARD APPOINTMENTS. 
          WHILE THERE'S, THERE WAS NO DEFINITIVE DEADLINES SET FOR THOSE, UH, UM, APPLICATIONS TO BE GIVEN TO US. 
          I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A DEADLINE SO THAT EACH MEMBER OF COUNCIL CAN REVIEW THE FINAL LIST AND WE CAN ESTABLISH INTERVIEW DATES THEREAFTER. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THINGS ON FRIDAY SECOND. 
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OKAY. 
          IS EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF THAT? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE WILL CLOSE ALL BOARD APPLICATIONS ON FRIDAY THE 23RD. 
          I'LL ASK FOR IT TO BE AT FIVE O'CLOCK. 
          SO THAT WILL GIVE, UM, EVERYONE THE, THE FRIDAY DAY TO GET IN THEIR, THEIR APPLICATIONS. 
          IF SO, BE IT, MAYOR, THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY WAY OF MOTION. 
          AND SECOND, AND, AND A VOICE VOTE, JUST SO IT'S OKAY. 
          CLEAR. 
          YEP. 
          SO WE DO, WE WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT AND RAISE SECOND AND A SECOND, AND THEN VOICE VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ANYONE OPPOSED? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU, MR. UM, SO I'LL JUST ASK THAT MS. WICKER, UM, IF YOU COULD DRAFT A LIST OF APPLICATIONS THAT WERE PUT IN BEFORE THE DEADLINE AND HAVE IT TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BY THE END OF DAY ON THE 27TH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND, UH, OUR, MY THIRD ITEM FOR COMMUNICATION. 
          SO WE'VE HEARD MUCH ABOUT OUR, FROM OUR NEIGHBORS ON ALL ASPECTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, RESOLUTION 33 THAT DEALS WITH MOVING THE PRELIMINARY STUDY. 
          YOU CAN'T SHUT IT. 
          CAN YOU TELL THEM, DID I, YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'LL REPEAT THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE HEARD MUCH FROM OUR NEIGHBORS ON ALL ASPECTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, RESOLUTION NUMBER 33 THAT DEALS WITH MOVING THE PRIMARY STU THE PRELIMINARY STUDY OF THE LAFFERTY PARCEL TO PARK PLACE AT KIRBY'S MILL, ALSO KNOWN AS RICK'S AUTO BODY PARCEL. 
          WHILE KEEPING THE REQUEST FOR THE STUDY OF THE PRIOR TWO AS WELL, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND REMOVE THIS FROM CONSENT AGENDA AND HAVE IT AS ITS OWN RESOLUTION. 
          I'LL HAPPILY MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. 
          SO THAT, WE'LL JUST MOVE 33 OUT OF CONSENT AGENDA TO ITS OWN SECTION. 
          AND THEN FOURTH ITEM. 
          ALSO, THERE HAS BEEN MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD, AND WE AS COUNSEL FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DEDICATE TIME DURING THIS MEETING TO DISCUSS. 
          SO I WILL BE INSERTING INTO THIS DISCUSSION. 
          ITEM SECTION NUMBER THREE, TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          UM, DOES ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNSEL HAVE COMMUNICATIONS AT THIS TIME? UH, YES. 
          MR. MERRI? YES, SIR. 
          UH, GIVEN, UH, TONIGHT'S ACTIONS AND THE INFORMATION REGARDING, UH, FORMER MAYOR WATSON AND THE EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RESCIND RESOLUTION 14 2000 2 0 6 ON THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          SO THAT WAY IT'S A FULL OPEN PROCESS FOR ALL PUBLIC WHO HAVE APPLIED OR CONTINUE TO APPLY TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE OPENINGS THAT ARE, THAT EXIST. 
          THAT DID EXIST ON THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          SO I MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND RESOLUTION 14 DASH 2026. 
          SECOND THAT, I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          I JUST DID. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE JUST OVER. 
          THAT WOULD BE REMOVING ALL THE APPOINTMENTS? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S, IF I COULD SPEAK UP, I, I AM KIND OF CONCERNED WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT FOR, WITH ALL THE NEXT MEETING. 
          WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THOSE VACANCIES EXISTED FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS ON THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          SOME OF 'EM DID, YEAH. 
          YES. 
          SO WE COULD, HAD, HAD THE PROCESS BEEN CONDUCTED THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, WE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TONIGHT APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE A POSITION THAT SEATED ON THE 28TH. 
          I'M NOT, HOWEVER, HOWEVER, GIVEN THE PROCESS THAT OCCURRED, GIVEN TONIGHT'S ACTIONS BY MR. WATSON AND THE INFORMATION TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE IS ONLY FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          BUT EVERYONE BE AFFORD THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY IF THEY APPLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, I I I'M NOT GONNA BE PRESSURED BECAUSE OF DEADLINES. 
          I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO PRESSURE YOU. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTEE. 
          OKAY. 
          THOSE TWO, THEY'RE ALREADY, THEY'RE ALREADY APPOINTED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE APPOINTED ALSO, I, I RECOMMENDED A CLASS TWO PERSON AS WELL, AND I, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR CLASS TWO PEOPLE. 
          I KNOW IT'S BEEN OVER SIX MONTHS, BUT THE PERSON THAT WE RECOMMENDED HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO BE ON THERE. 
          I MAINTAIN MY, I MAINTAIN MY MOTION TO, TO RESCIND. 
          WELL, JUST LET'S, TIM, CAN WE MAKE THE MOTION TO POSSIBLY KEEP THE, UH, MAYOR BETHANY AND I'M SORRY, WHOMEVER DAN SAID TO KEEP THOSE THREE AND THEN OPEN EVERYTHING ELSE UP. 
          WELL, WELL, THE OTHER, THE OTHER I WAS GONNA MENTION, I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM WERE REAPPOINTED, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS OR NOT. 
          NO, THEY WERE, THESE WERE ALL FIVE. 
          THERE WERE FIVE VACANCIES. 
          THERE WERE, THERE WERE FIVE VACANCIES ON THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. 
          INCLUDING INCLUDING, INCLUDING THE MAYOR. 
          INCLUDING THE MAYOR, INCLUDING THE CLASS, TAKE THE MAYOR OUT, OBVIOUSLY INCLUDING THE CLASS ONE, TWO, AND THREE MEMBERS. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF ME, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WAS A VACANCY FOR CLASS ONE FOR MAYOR. 
          RIGHT. 
          VACANCY FOR CLASS TWO. 
          MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL. 
          YEP. 
          UH, WE HAVE MS. ZFA WHO RE WHO RESIGNED AS IN THE EARLY PART OF JANUARY. 
          YEP. 
          WE HAVE A CLASS FOUR VACANCY. 
          UH, MS. ZFS WAS AN ALTERNATE ONE, VACANT CLASS FOUR AND ANOTHER VACANT CLASS 
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FOUR, I BELIEVE THE CHAIRMAN, MR. GIULIANO WAS REAPPOINTED. 
          MR. GIULIANO WAS REAPPOINTED ON THE, AND PART OF THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO, BUT HIS, BUT HIS APPOINTMENT WAS IN PLACE UNTIL 2029. 
          SO HE DOESN'T, SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REAPPOINTED. 
          HE WAS ALREADY, HIS HIS TERM IS STILL IN PROCESS. 
          HIS TERM DOESN'T EXPIRE IN 2020. 
          NO, IT HAD TO BE REAPPOINTED. 
          HIS TERM EXPIRED DECEMBER. 
          HIS TERM EXPIRED WAS A FOUR YEAR TERM RAY. 
          FOUR YEAR TERM AS I RECALL. 
          SO RAY, WOULD YOU BE CONTENT IF WE LEFT TOM THE MAYOR, WHOMEVER YOU SAID, AND I APOLOGIZE, HORRIBLE BOTH NAMES. 
          COULD WE COMPROMISE WITH THOSE? MARTY HAMILTON THREE STAYING ON MARTY? WHO'S THAT? WHO'S THAT? IT WAS, UH, MARTY HAMILTON, OUR BUILDING SUB CODE OFFICIAL HAMILTON MARTY HAMILTON'S, THAT'D BE SOMEBODY FROM THE YES, THE, UH, THE TOWNSHIP. 
          SO WE KEEP WORKFORCE. 
          BETHANY THE MAYOR, TOM. 
          AND, OKAY. 
          I WILL, I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO RESCIND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE MAYOR, THE GOVERNING BODY, APPOINTEE AND CLASS TWO. 
          MR. HAMILTON. 
          WHAT ABOUT BETHANY AND MR. JULIANA AND MR. JULIANA? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, SO THOSE FOUR, UH, OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION'S BEEN AMENDED, UH, TO, UH, RETAIN THOSE FOUR APPOINTMENTS MADE WITH THE, ANY, WITH ANY OF THE OTHER APPOINTMENTS BEING, UH, VOID AT THIS POINT AND OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THE MEMBERS. 
          SO, SO THAT REMAIN WILL BE, UH, THE MAYOR, UM, COUNCILWOMAN MILK. 
          COUNCILWOMAN MILK, MR. GIULIANO AND MR. HAMILTON? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN COX. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          DO YOU, UH, RAY YOU, YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT? I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. 
          AND DOES THE SECONDER ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT THE WAY WE STATED IT? I'LL SECOND IT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW IT'S THAT AMENDED IS READY FOR VOTE . 
          OKAY. 
          A DISCUSSION AND THEN VOTE. 
          YES. 
          SURE. 
          SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION NEEDED FOR THE RESOLUTION? THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT THERE IS A PLANNING BOARD MEETING COMING UP. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT INSTEAD OF MAKING FOR THE PLANNING BOARD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS, THAT MAYBE FRIDAY IS A LITTLE TOO LONG FOR THE PLANNING BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE READY TO GO FOR THEIR MEETING. 
          WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMING THE DEADLINE'S OFF OF MARCH, THE PLANNING DEADLINE. 
          AND, AND THE MARCH IS THE DEADLINE. 
          IT IS A DEADLINE. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. 
          100% MARCH 15TH. 
          I JUST WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO MEET. 
          WOULD YOU CONSIDER WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY FOR THE PLANNING? WE, WE WON'T HAVE A MEETING TO APPOINT. 
          WE WOULD, WE WOULD WE, WE COULD APPOINT DURING SPECIAL EXECUTIVE ON MONDAY. 
          WE COULD, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AS LONG AS WE HAVE, THAT WOULD'VE TO BE A COMPROMISE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO AGREE UPON NOW IN PUBLIC. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC WHEN IS THEIR NEXT MEETING THOUGH? TUESDAY WE HAVE A SPECIAL EXECUTIVE ON THE T ON MONDAY THERE. 
          SORRY, THIS IS WEDNESDAY. 
          WEDNESDAY. 
          IT'S THE, IT, NEXT WEEK WE HAVE SPECIAL EXECUTIVE MONDAY AND TUESDAY MM-HMM . 
          AND WE HAVE WEDNESDAY. 
          WEDNESDAY WOULD BE OUR FIRST PLANNING BOARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WITH, SO IF WE CLOSE IT ON FRIDAY, WE'RE GONNA ADD DOING PLANNING BOARD WITH THE OTHER REVIEWS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING TOGETHER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND APPOINT ON MONDAY. 
          I, WE COULD APPOINT ON MONDAY IN SPEC COMING OUT OF THIS SPECIAL EXECUTIVE. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          I WOULD URGE YOU TO HAVE A PLANNING BOARD QUORUM IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THE SCHEDULE OF THE OUTLINE. 
          YES. 
          WHICH, WHICH WOULD GET US DONE BY MARCH 15. 
          DO WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT AND GET THAT IN? OR IS IT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT OR, BUT WELL, I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADVERTISED. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED. 
          ADVERTISED FOR LEGAL INTERVIEWS ON BELIEVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN IT OUGHT BE, IT OUGHT TO BE READVERTISED TO INCLUDE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION OF PLANNING BOARD APPOINTMENTS. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TIME TO DO ALL THAT ON MONDAY. 
          CAN WE DO THE PLANNING AND OTHER BOARDS ON TUESDAY? FOCUS MONDAY ON ATTORNEYS AND THEN TUESDAY ON WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED FOR THE PLANNING BOARD MAY BE APPOINTED THE DAY BEFORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          PLANNING BOARD MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ANYBODY WHO APPLIED FOR THE PLANNING BOARD KNOWS THAT THE MEETING IS THE 28TH. 
          AND IF WE PICK THEM, THEY'RE GONNA JUST NEED TO BE READY TO GO. 
          IT. 
          IT'S TIGHT. 
          IT'S A LOT. 
          BUT DANIELLE, HOW MANY ARE WE SHORT FROM? WE HAD FOUR, RIGHT? FOR A QUORUM. 
          YEAH. 
          I I THINK WE, IF WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MEMBERS, THAT'S A QUORUM. 
          THAT MEANS ALL FIVE HAVE TO SHOW UP. 
          OKAY. 
          OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA HAVE TO POSTPONE. 
          BUT ISN'T, UM, SEVEN MEMBERS WITH TWO ALTERNATES? BUT ISN'T A COUPLE OF 'EM ALREADY ON? UM, YEAH, WE HAVE FIVE. 
          WELL, WE HAVE THE THREE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          PLUS TOM. 
          BUT ISN'T BUCKING FUS ALSO ALREADY ON SIX, RIGHT? YOU MIGHT BE MAYBE ONE MORE. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE SEVEN, I THINK. 
          I THINK YOU'LL HAVE SEVEN. 
          IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE MUCKIN FUSS IS A REAPP WOULD BE A RE-APP APPOINTMENT ALSO, ACCORDING TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. 
          IF HE, IF HE FOLLOWS THE TIMELINE OF TOM, THEN MUCKIN FUS APPEARS TO BE A A, A REAPPOINTMENT AS WELL. 
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I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT HE WAS ALREADY, I THOUGHT HE WAS ALREADY APPOINTED. 
          BECAUSE ON THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, CHAD MILKIN FUSS HAS, WOULD HAVE A TERM EXPIRING DECEMBER 31ST. 
          2029. 
          29. 
          SO HE'S ALREADY ON NO, NO, HE, THAT WOULD BE, LOOKS LIKE HE'D BE A REAPPOINTMENT. 
          JUST LIKE TOM. 
          OH, BUT YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE FOUR. 
          YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. 
          I'M ASKING MR. FUS BEING ADDED TO THIS LIST AS WELL, SO THAT WE HAVE FIVE FOR A QUORUM. 
          I'LL DO THAT. 
          THAT WE CAN AGREE WITH IT. 
          WE HAVE FIVE FOR A QUORUM. 
          BARE MINIMUM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE'RE GONNA TELL OUR PLANNING BOARD APPLICANTS. 
          WE'RE SORRY. 
          IT'S TYPE, BUT, BUT IF YOU WANT IT, LET'S GO. 
          BEFORE WE DO THAT THOUGH, WE, I NEED TO MAKE, WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION NOW TO AMEND. 
          WE DO ONCE AGAIN, THE AMENDED RESOLUTION. 
          YEAH, THE AMEND THE AMEND. 
          WE'RE MAKING SURE YOU'RE GOOD BEFORE WE AMEN. 
          AGAIN, IT, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH, I'M OKAY WITH THE REAPPOINTMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR EF FALLS AND JULIANO. 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YOUR, SO I, I, YES. 
          SO I WILL AMEND MY AMENDED PROPOSAL, MY MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION 14 2026 TO INCLUDE THE MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN MILK TO SERVE AS THE GOVERNING BODY REPRESENTATIVE AND THE REAPPOINTMENTS PURSUANT TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION OF MR. GIULIANO, MR. HAMILTON AND MR. FUSS. 
          I WILL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE OTHER TWO APPOINTMENTS, WHICH I BELIEVE WERE DONNA SIMONS AND, UM, MR. HART. 
          JACK HARTWICK. 
          RIGHT. 
          HARTWICK. 
          CORRECT. 
          SIMONS, UM, WATSON, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THERE'S THREE. 
          SO THERE'LL BE THREE VACANCIES. 
          YOU'RE GONNA BE CONSIDERING FOUR WITH THE ALTERNATES, CORRECT? WITH THE ALTERNATE, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT AMENDMENT OKAY WITH THE SECONDER? YES. 
          THE SECOND. 
          AND AGAIN, VOICE VOTE. 
          VOICE VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          A. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? SO THE MOTION PASSES, THAT'S THE RESOLUTION. 
          14, 20, 25, 26 IS AMENDED. 
          AS DONE AS PER OF THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WILL BE DURING THE TUESDAY EXEC TUESDAY, EXEC TUESDAY SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE NEED TO RE ADVERTISE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO WE'VE ADDED TOTON BOULEVARD. 
          WE WILL NOW. 
          ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO SCHEDULING ITEMS. OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IS FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026, HERE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AT SIX 30 AND THEN FEBRUARY 17TH, HERE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AT SIX 30 IS ANOTHER, UH, REGULAR STATE. 
          NOW ON TO 
          [V. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          WE HAVE JANUARY 6TH. 
          COUNCIL REORG AND REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 
          [VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS]
SO NOW MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO OUR FIRST LISTED DISCUSSION ITEM IS ORDINANCES 2020 DASH THREE REVISIONS. 
          THIS ORDINANCE DEALS WITH PARAMETERS AROUND PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SINCE WE ARE ADDING TOWN HALL STYLE MEETINGS TO OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE, WE FEEL THE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS ORDINANCE. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN COX, YOU HAD SOME SHARED SOME IDEAS, WE'D LIKE TO GO OVER THEM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING THIS OPPORTUNITY AND FOR BRINGING THIS UP TO DISCUSSION WITH THE TOWN HALL STYLE FORMAT. 
          UH, MEETINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GO INTO. 
          OBVIOUSLY AS YOU, THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC KNOW AND BY ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A SET TIME LIMIT OF FIVE MINUTES, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, GIVEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IN THE TOWN HALL TO ALLOW FOR MORE BACK AND FORTH, WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND THAT TO 10 MINUTES. 
          BUT FOR MY MAIN CONSIDERATION AND MY REASON FOR BRINGING THIS UP TO COUNCIL IS I TRULY WANT TO REMOVE THE TIME LIMIT FROM THE ORDINANCE ITSELF AND HAVE THE ORDINANCE REFLECT THAT COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT RULES GOVERNING PUBLIC COMMENT, SETTING FORTH TIME, BOTH AT, FOR A COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL AS A TOWN HALL MEETING. 
          SO THAT WAY THE COUNT COUNCIL WOULD BE PERMITTED TO EXTEND TIME IF NECESSARY, DEPENDING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER AT HAND. 
          WHETHER IT BE AT A COUNCIL MEETING OR AT A COUNT HALL MEETING TO EXTEND AND GIVE THE SPEAKER OR PRESENTER AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO TWO MINUTES IN ADDITION TO THEIR INITIAL 10 MINUTES IF IT'S AT A COUNT HALL MEETING OR THEIR TYPICAL FIVE MINUTES HERE AT A COUNCIL MEETING. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PRESENT, UH, FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE ARE DELINEATING BETWEEN COUNCIL MEETING. 
          YES, I STILL, THE COMMENTS, I STILL WOULD MAINTAIN THAT WE MAINTAIN THE FIVE MINUTES AT COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          UH, BUT FOR THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THAT TO 10 MINUTES, UH, WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND, UH, UP TO THE ADDITIONAL ONE TO TWO MINUTES, UH, AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION TO THE PRESENTER AND THE SPEAKER. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, THE TIME LIMIT REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE AND HAVE THEIR ORDINANCE JUST REFLECT AND 
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STATE THAT COUNCIL SHALL ANNUALLY ADOPT, UM, RULES AND REGULATIONS PER WITH THE GOVERNMENT MEETINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT, RATHER THAN HAVE THE SPECIFIC TIME DEFINED BY THE ORDINANCE. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE OTHER THINGS IF POSSIBLE. 
          AFTER, UM, COUNCILMAN COX AND I SPOKE, WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          WE'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A TIME, UM, FOR SPECIAL PRESENTERS THAT WOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO THAT 10 MINUTES, MAYBE 20 MINUTES. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE SIGN UP. 
          AND THE REASON YOU WOULD SIGN UP IS NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE FOLKS WHO COME HERE. 
          UM, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING. 
          BUT ON TOP OF IT, IF 50 PEOPLE SIGN UP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK. 
          'CAUSE THE OTHER THING WE WANNA PRESENT IS A TWO HOUR TIME LIMIT TO THIS. 
          UM, BUT IF 50 PEOPLE WANNA TALK, WE'D LIKE TO DO A RANDOMIZED SELECTION. 
          EVERY THIRD PERSON, EVERY FOURTH, EVERYWHERE, WE CAN HAVE ALL 50 PEOPLE SPEAK. 
          BUT I WANNA GIVE TIME TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO SPEAK. 
          BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT, IF THE FIRST 20 PEOPLE SIGN UP, MAYBE IN CONJUNCTION TOGETHER OR BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO BE OFF, I WANNA LEAVE TIME FOR THAT PERSON WHO WORKED ALL DAY WHO DOESN'T GET OFF UNTIL FIVE 30, WHO HAS A CHANCE TO SIGN UP, TO SIGN UP AND HAVE AN EQUAL CHANCE TO TALK. 
          SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO HOURS AND WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY 10 MINUTES, THAT LEAVES ROUGHLY 12 TO 20 PEOPLE WHO CAN TALK. 
          I WANT ALL 12 TO 20. 
          BUT IF 50 PEOPLE WANNA TALK THAT AT THAT POINT, WE'D ALSO JUST DO A RANDOMIZED PICK. 
          AND HOWEVER THAT IS DONE, WHATEVER'S BEST, WHATEVER THE RULES ARE THAT TYPICALLY ORDER THAT I WOULD HAPPILY FOLLOW. 
          WHERE DO PEOPLE SIGN UP? YEAH, WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGN UP AT THE MEETING ONLINE. 
          OH, WHERE? ONLINE. 
          OKAY. 
          ONLINE. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE A WINDOW OF TIME IN WHICH THAT'S, THIS IS FOR TOWN HALL FORMAT. 
          TOWN HALLS. 
          I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE A, A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO LET THE, THE COUNSELOR, THE TOWNSHIP, KNOW THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING FOR A 10 MINUTE PERIOD AT A TOWN HALL SESSION. 
          UP TO 10 MINUTES. 
          YES. 
          UP TO 10 MINUTES. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          AND IF WE HAVE OVER 12 FOR A TWO HOUR LIMIT, THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME RANDOMIZATION OF THE SELECTION AT THAT POINT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO JUST ON THAT, IS THERE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT? CAN WE TRY IT AND SEE? WE WOULD HAVE TO, THE FIRST ONE. 
          LET'S, LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE IT MIGHT TURN OUT TO BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA SPEAK SURE'S AN IMPORTANT, IT, IT IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          THAT'S WHY WE WANTED THE TOWN HALL. 
          I I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE LESS TIME IF THEY COULD GET WHAT THEY RIGHT. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE A GROUP. 
          WE'RE A COMMUNITY. 
          IF THERE'S 50 PEOPLE WHO WANNA TALK, I'M GONNA AS THINK, ASSUME I KNOW THAT THE MEETINGS I'VE BEEN TO WHERE I KNOW 50 PEOPLE WANNA TALK, I CUT MY, MY COMMENTS DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE GONNA EITHER REITERATE WHAT I'M SAYING OR GIVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. 
          BUT I HAVE TO RESPECT THAT. 
          SO AS A COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          PEOPLE HERE DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND TO YOUR POINT, UM, IF THERE ARE 50 PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP WILL LET THAT BE KNOWN TO THE FIRST. 
          YES. 
          WELL, VERY GOOD POINT. 
          PEOPLE SO THEY KNOW IF THEY DON'T NEED TO USE THEIR FULL 10 MINUTES, THEY CAN ALLOW TIME FOR THOSE BEYOND THE ORIGINAL TIME. 
          AND PART OF THAT SIGN UP TOO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU TALKED ABOUT, WAS TO ALSO GET THE, THE, THE TOPICS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. 
          THAT WAY WE HAVE AN IDEA AND CAN BE PREPARED ON OUR END, BE ABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND ISSUES. 
          YES. 
          AS WELL AS KIND OF GET A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE HAVE COMING AFTER THE TOWN HALLS FOR SPECIFIC TOPIC AND WHAT HAVE YOU AS WELL. 
          FAIR. 
          AND I DID HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKER. 
          YES. 
          WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD DELINEATION BETWEEN, UM, SOMEONE THAT, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT HAS SOMETHING INTEREST THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO US AND MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO COME TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, SO THOSE SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKERS WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN CLASSIFICATION AND TIME RESTRAINTS THAT WE WOULD WORK OUT WITH THEM AHEAD OF TIME. 
          YES. 
          IF THEY NEEDED 20 MINUTES TO PRESENT, WE WOULD GIVE THEM THOSE 20 MINUTES. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO COME TO US. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T WANNA MONOPOLIZE THE CONVERSATION. 
          WE, WE JUST WANT DIALOGUE. 
          SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT YEAH. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO, SO, SO I, IT FEELS LIKE FROM A TOWN HALL GUIDELINE STANDPOINT, UM, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE 10 TO, WE ALL AGREEING TO ABOUT A 10 MINUTE TIMEFRAME MAXIMUM. 
          THERE WOULD BE A SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME AND A TWO HOUR TIME LIMIT FOR THE MEETING. 
          AND IF NEEDED, WE WOULD HAVE TO RANDOMIZE THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP IF NEEDED NEEDED. 
          BUT WE WOULD RANDOMIZE THE ENTIRE LIST IN CASE EVERYBODY IN USE THEIR ATTENDANCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          MORE COULD SPEAK DURING THAT MEETING. 
          UM, YOU WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH A PRIORITY BASED ON THE TIME OF SIGN UP? I JUST THINK IT'S UNFAIR. 
          I I, I KNOW FOR ME, I'M A WORKING MOM. 
          I'M JUST RAISING THE QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF IT OPENS AT 8:00 AM I, I WORK AT A HOSPITAL, LIKE I'M NOT ABLE TO GET ON MY PHONE AND SIGN UP. 
          BUT WHEN I COME HOME AT FOUR 30, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK I'D HAVE 
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JUST AS MUCH CHANCE OF TALKING AS THE PERSON WHO EITHER WORKS SECOND SHIFT. 
          MAYBE THEY'RE BLESSED TO BE A STAY AT, STAY-AT-HOME MOM, OR THEY HAVE OFF THAT DAY AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SIGN UP. 
          I JUST WANT JUST AS MUCH CHANCE. 
          AND I WANTED, IF I WANT THAT, I WANNA GIVE THAT TO EVERYONE ELSE. 
          JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 
          SO. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO WE'VE HAD AN IDEA, UM, MAYOR, IF I MAY, I THINK IF I MAY, SINCE I'M GONNA TRY TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE BEFORE I'M OKAY. 
          DONE. 
          UM, SO THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE FOR FIVE MINUTES IS THAT WE WILL ADD A RIGHT BY THE MAYOR TO EXTEND THE TIME FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES. 
          I I I, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT AMENDING THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE REFLECT THAT. 
          WELL, ALL THIS IS GONNA REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT. 
          I I WASN'T TRYING RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I'M JUST SAYING IN TERMS OF THE TIME AND PUBLIC SPEAKING ON THE REGULAR, REGULAR MEETING AND PARKING, NOT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT, BUT JUST TO REFLECT THAT ANNUALLY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHALL ADOPT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO GOVERN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AT A PUBLIC MEETING AND IN TOWN HALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES SET FORTH BY COUNCIL. 
          RATHER THAN HAVING THE TIME SPELL OUT IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TIME REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE. 
          'CAUSE EVEN THAT AT, AT, UH, A COUNCIL MEETING, IF A RESIDENT GETS UP TO SPEAK AND THERE'S DIALOGUE AND BACK AND FORTH, AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TOPIC IS, THE MAYOR MAY WISH TO EXTEND AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE TO THAT INDIVIDUAL BY ORDINANCE. 
          RIGHT NOW, WITH THE TIME BEING IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S NOT PERMITTED. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, SEE THE TIME TIMES FOR BOTH COUNCIL AND TOWN HALL REMOVED FROM THE ORDINANCE. 
          AND THE MAYOR DOES STOP THE CLOCK. 
          BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST HAVE IT MORE SOLID. 
          I I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME LIMIT IN IT. 
          I, THAT COULD BE EXTENDED. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'M NOT, THERE'S NOT PARAMETERS SET FORTH BY COUNCIL THROUGH WHAT? NO, BUT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN ADOPT IF I MAY, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, THEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO PREPARE FOR IT. 
          IT, IT COULD LITERALLY CHANGE MEETING TO MEETING MM-HMM . 
          BASED OFF THE RULES SET FORTH AT THAT MEETING. 
          SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME GUIDELINES SET OUT. 
          BUT I AM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR. 
          I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR COUNSEL. 
          I WOULD BE IN FAVOR FOR ALLOWING FOR AN EXTENSION. 
          'CAUSE I DO FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY BASED OFF THE SPEAKER OR THE SUBJECT MATTER. 
          HOW LONG IS THE EXTENSION? IT'S UP TO THE, IT WOULD BE UP TO, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, YEAH. 
          ONE TO TWO MINUTES. 
          SEEMS TO BE, BE I THINK THAT'D BE, OTHERWISE WE'RE HOT THAN THE MIC TIME BY GOING, BY GIVING EVERYONE, I WOULDN'T PERSONALLY WANNA JEOPARDIZE EVERYONE ELSE'S TIME BY GOING 10 MINUTES A PERSON THAT MIGHT FEEL EXTENSIVE, BUT IF THEY ARE HAD TO WRAP UP, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE, UM, WOULD WANT TO CUT THEM OFF TO SOME EXTENT. 
          I, I THINK IF THERE'S A WILLINGNESS THEN IN THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THAT EXTENSION, I'D BE, I'D BE OKAY. 
          MY CONCERN WAS THAT THAT'S THAT SET NUMBER. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK, I THINK THE GUIDELINE IS, LET'S ADD A ONE TO TWO MINUTE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK THE GUIDELINE, I THINK THE ORDINANCE SHOULD STAY AT FIVE MINUTES, BUT, UH, I CAN ADD CLAUSE THAT THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION COULD BE EXTENDED UP TO ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES JUST TO HAVE A NUMBER IN THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S FIVE AND THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE. 
          IN REFLECTION TO COUNCIL MEETING, PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          WE DISCUSSED TOWN HALL MEETING GUIDELINES NOW THROUGH TOWN HALL. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A 10 MINUTE TIME LIMIT WITH A RIGHT TO EXTEND. 
          CORRECT. 
          SAME THING I'M TRYING TO GET, I'M ASKING, I'M ASKING A QUESTION THAT, THAT, THAT, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD SET THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE. 
          LIKE THAT, THAT 10 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. 
          10 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE EXTENT THAT IF I MATTER 10 MINUTES IS IF YOU GOT 10 PEOPLE AT 10 MINUTES, YOU'RE ALREADY, SO WE'RE GONNA DO A 10 MINUTE WINDOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING TOWN HALL MEETINGS. 
          TOWN HALL MEETINGS OVERALL TWO HOUR TIME LIMIT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SIGN UP IN ADVANCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF THERE'S MORE THAN THE TWO HOURS ALLOCATED, WE'LL HAVE TO RANDOMIZE THE, THE PUBLIC SPEAKING. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL SPEAKER, THEY CAN ESTABLISH A SPECIAL, SPECIAL SPEAKER REQUESTED BY COUNCIL. 
          AND WHO, WHO DECIDES? THE MAYOR DECIDES THE CHAIR THE TIME LIMIT. 
          DECIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M JUST TAKING SOME NOTES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT IT MAY, IS THAT EVERYTHING? MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AMEND ORDINANCE AND IF, IF I'M, IF I MAY BEFORE, IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT DONE YET. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          UM, SO CLEARLY WE TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          , UM, AND, UH, COUNCILWOMAN SAND MOORE'S POINT, WE HAVE TO ALMOST VET THIS OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GONNA WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT CAN REALLY GO AWRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AS YOU KNOW. 
          SO, SO THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAN RIGHT NOW. 
          YES. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT SURE BEFORE WE CODIFY IN ORDINANCE, YOU CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE AGAIN AT ANY TIME. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IS YOU CAN'T BIND FUTURE ACCOUNTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          TO, TO, TO AGREE TO ANY OF THIS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE ORDINANCE WILL BE IN THE BOOKS UNTIL IT'S CHANGED. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 
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I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE RES RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, WE TRY, WE, THE PROPOSED PUBLIC COMMENT CHANGES AT THIS MEETING DURING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. 
          AND IF WE FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING OUT OF THAT, THEN WE CAN BEGIN TO CODIFY THROUGH FIRST READING ON FEBRUARY 3RD. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          I, OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AMEND ORDINANCE 2020 DASH THREE. 
          I'M ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING NOT TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND. 
          I'M ACTUALLY JUST REQUESTING THAT WE, WE TRY IT TONIGHT. 
          TRY IT TONIGHT. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL GIVE US TIME TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE FOR OKAY. 
          PROPOSAL THAT, WHEN, WHEN WILL YOU TELL ME THAT AT THE END OF THIS MEETING? UH, YES. 
          BECAUSE I GOT, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE, YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA STALL, BUT THIS WAY WE CAN READ IT AT THE, READ IT AND WELL DO A FIRST READING AT THE FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING YEAH. 
          FOR THE AMENDMENT. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          I, I HAVE THE NOTES. 
          UM, YEAH, WE'RE STILL GONNA, I'M STILL GONNA, IF, IF COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE, I'LL STILL OPERATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION UNDER THE GUIDELINES WE JUST DESCRIBED TONIGHT. 
          TONIGHT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IN SAYING THAT'S FINE. 
          IN SAYING THAT, DO WE NEED A MOTION TO TEMPORARILY SUSPEND RESOLUTION? WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, , IS THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND ORDERS 2020 DASH THREE AS WE'VE OUTLINED SUBJECT TO COUNSEL'S AGREEMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING TO DRAFT ON FIRST READING FOR FEBRUARY 3RD. 
          SO THAT WOULD ALLOW US THEN TO DO IT TONIGHT AS A TRIAL TO, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO DO THE DRAFT AT THE END OF THE MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION. 
          LET'S GO FOR IT. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          YOU HAVE THAT. 
          I THANK GOD. 
          WE'RE RECORDING, RIGHT? TARA . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR COMMENTS ON ORDINANCE 2020 DASH THREE REVISIONS? SO I'M GONNA STALL SO DEPUTY MAYOR BOES AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND DISCUSSION ITEM, WHICH WILL BE MONTVALE LITIGATION. 
          UM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, DEPUTY MAYOR BORHEES AND I ATTENDED A FEDERAL COURT HEARING. 
          UM, WE WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UM, COMMUNICATE BACK TO THE PUBLIC, UM, WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT AND WHERE WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO, DEPUTY MOR MAYOR, ESE, IF YOU COULD TAKE IT AWAY AND TELL US WHAT WE'VE, I WOULD SAY OUT THE BAT, I APOLOGIZE IF MY VOICE CRACKS. 
          I'VE BEEN FIGHTING LARYNGITIS FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          UM, AND IF ANYONE'S NEAR ME, I'M ON ANTIBIOTICS. 
          WE'RE WE'RE GOOD . 
          UM, BUT THE MONTVILLE CASE WAS REALLY INTERESTING IN THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS GONE BEFORE A NEW JERSEY COURT IN ATTEMPTS TO STOP, NOT ALTER, BUT TO STOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HAS BEEN TOLD NO, THEY'VE FAILED. 
          TO THE POINT THAT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE 169 TOWNS IN NEW JERSEY BEING SUED BY BUILDERS FOR A BUILDER'S REMEDY. 
          THERE ARE 16 TOWNS THAT ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR IMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING. 
          THAT SAID, IT STILL NEEDS TO BE FOUGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE COURT CASE WAS ABOUT. 
          SO INSTEAD OF GOING AS A MUNICIPALITY, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL LOST, THEY WENT AS INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND WHAT THEY WENT WITH WAS IRREPARABLE HARM. 
          AND THEY DID IT ON TWO FRONTS. 
          ONE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL FOLKS, AND TWO TO THE PEOPLE. 
          AND I'LL GO VERY LIGHT ON BOTH OF THOSE TO THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO, WHAT MANY TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, AND THEY WERE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT. 
          JUST 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THAT MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          WHAT THEY SAID WAS THAT THEY MADE CHOICES THAT FELT LIKE THEY HAD A GUN PUT TO THEIR HEAD ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THEY WERE TRYING TO DO WHAT WAS RIGHT. 
          BUT THEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY WERE SLAYED. 
          THEY WERE TARRED AND FEATHERED. 
          THEY WERE SAID THAT THEY WERE BRIBED AND THAT THEY WERE GIVING MONEY. 
          MANY PEOPLE, MANY OF THESE MAYORS AND OR TOWN COUNTS, PEOPLE HAD PEOPLE PICKETING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES. 
          THEY WERE SLAMMED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          THEIR BUSINESSES LOST, UM, BUSINESS, SORRY, THE BUSINESSES LOST BUSINESS. 
          UM, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          AND THAT'S IRREPARABLE HARM OTHER FOLKS WHO WANT IT TO BE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO SAVE THEIR TOWN. 
          UH, MONTVILLE IS A FOUR BY FOUR TOWN. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT MEDFORD IS? BUT THEY WANTED TO SAVE IT. 
          AND INSTEAD THESE FOLKS WERE BEING JUST CHARRED AND FEATHERED, AND THEY GAVE UP ON THEIR DREAM. 
          SO IRREPARABLE HARM TO THEM, OKAY, YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT. 
          LIKE WE CAN BE HONEST, BUT THAT YOU SIGNED UP. 
          NEXT IRREPARABLE HARM WAS ALSO TO THE TOWNSPEOPLE. 
          ONCE YOU HAVE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, YOU DON'T COME BACK FROM IT. 
          WHEN THE SCHOOL HAD 20 STUDENTS 
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AND NOW THERE'S 30, YOUR STUDENT IS NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION FROM THE TEACHER THEY PREVIOUSLY GOT. 
          THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S IRREPARABLE HARM TO THAT CHILD. 
          MY CHILDREN WENT THROUGH SHAWNEE AND THEY HAD SMALL CLASSES. 
          MY KIDS ARE ALL SUCCESS STORIES. 
          IS THAT GONNA BE FAIR TO THE KID WITH, TO THE PARENT OF 34 KIDS? AND I'M SURE THERE'S NUMBERS THE TEACHERS WON'T ALLOW. 
          SO I, I DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 16 KIDS IN A CLASS AND 20 SOMETHING OR 30 SOMETHING OR DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, THIS, THAT, THE OTHER. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THIS COURT CASE TALKED ABOUT. 
          IRREPARABLE HARM TO THE ACTUAL TOWNSPEOPLE. 
          AND YOU CAN'T COME BACK FROM THAT. 
          SO THE JUDGE SEEMED TO UNDERSTAND IT. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF TIMES I WASN'T SURE WHICH WAY HE WAS LEANING, AND IN THE END, I'M STILL NOT. 
          HE MADE THE PROSECUTORS JUMP THROUGH A COUPLE OF HOOPS TO THE POINT THAT HE ACTUALLY SAID, I DON'T LIKE PLAYING SECOND FIDDLE TO ANYBODY. 
          WHY ARE YOU COMING TO THE FEDERAL COURT AFTER NEW JERSEY TOLD YOU? NO TIME AND TIME AGAIN? AND THANK THE GOOD LORD. 
          THE LAWYER HAD A REALLY GOOD ANSWER. 
          HE SAID, YOU'RE NOT SECOND FIDDLE. 
          YOU'RE FIRST, YOU'RE THE ONLY JUDGE WE'VE COME TO THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND THE JUDGE STEPPED BACK AND SAID, ALL RIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. 
          THE OTHER THING THE JUDGE SAID THAT I THOUGHT WAS REMARKABLE IS THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT WITH A MARCH 15TH DEADLINE, PLANNING BOARDS HAVE TO MEET, THEY HAVE TO GIVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE. 
          THERE'S A WHOLE CYCLE. 
          AND THAT CYCLE HAS TO BE DONE BY MARCH 15TH. 
          OR ELSE THERE'S RISKS. 
          HE IS GONNA DO HIS BEST TO HAVE AN ANSWER OUT BY FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          WHAT ARE WE, LOOK, WHAT WERE THEY LOOKING FOR? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY WEREN'T LOOKING TO STOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THOSE HAVE ALL LOST. 
          WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO WAS PAUSE IT, PAUSE IT. 
          SO THE TIMELINES COULD BE EXTENDED. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE WITH ME ON THIS ONE. 
          EVERYTHING IS SO BLOODY RUSHED THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS UNDER WHAT IF, WHAT IF, WHAT IF? OKAY. 
          I, I KNOW I'M FEELING IT. 
          THE PRESSURE OF, OKAY, MY GOD, IF WE GET A BUILDER'S REMEDY, I, I DON'T WANNA BE IN THIS TOWN. 
          I HAVE A PLOT OF LAND ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T WANNA SEE GOING IN THERE, LET ALONE A FARM OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          SO THEY ARE AWARE, THEY'RE TRYING FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          WE HOPE TO HEAR THE SECOND. 
          I HEAR, UM, MIKE GON, WHO'S THE MAYOR THERE, SAID THAT HE WILL CALL ME PERSONALLY. 
          FINGERS CROSSED I'M PROBABLY HIS 15TH CALL, BUT AT LEAST I'M ON THE LIST. 
          I WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW. 
          BUT THAT IS WHAT MONTVILLE CAME UP WITH. 
          UM, SO ON TOP OF MONTVILLE, I ACTUALLY WENT TO A GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT THE OTHER DAY WHERE THIS LOVELY GENTLEMAN SPOKE. 
          UM, TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH BUYING BACK DEEDS. 
          I WANNA ASSURE YOU WE'RE TRULY LOOKING INTO IT. 
          IT IS A LOT DEEPER, MORE CONVOLUTED THAN I THOUGHT, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY GONNA LOOK INTO IT. 
          AND I THINK MIKE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO CASES AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO IN THE SHORT TERM. 
          UM, SO JUST ON THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES. 
          UM, AND IT IS A MECHANISM USED TO OFFSET THE NEED OF FOR NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. 
          UM, THERE, IT'S A PRIVATE MATTER BETWEEN THE DEED HOLDER AND THE TOWNSHIP. 
          SO WE CAN'T DISCUSS THESE THINGS IN PUBLIC 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE LIKE US DISCUSSING YOUR PROPERTY IN PUBLIC. 
          WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT THERE ARE A SET NUMBER OF PRIVATELY HELD DEEDS THAT ARE, UM, IN MEDFORD. 
          AND THERE'S WHAT, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER CORPORATELY HELD DEEDS. 
          UM, THOSE DEED HOLDERS, UM, HAVE AND OR WILL BE REACHED OUT TO, AND WE WILL DISCUSS WITH THEM AN OPPORTUNITY IN WHICH WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO BUY THOSE DEEDS BACK. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, EXTEND THOSE DEEDS. 
          BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE NOT, UM, GUARANTEED. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S PRIVATE PARTIES INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS, AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET THE FALSE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA BE THE MAGIC BULLET. 
          SO, UM, YOU'RE DEALING WITH, I DON'T WANNA PUT A ROUGH, I WOULD, I'LL PUT A ROUGH NUMBER ON IT, OF ABOUT 60 TO 70 ENTITIES, WHETHER THEY'RE PRIVATE OR CORPORATE, THAT WOULD ALL NEED TO AGREE ON THESE THINGS. 
          AND WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDING TO DO THIS. 
          UM, AND COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT FUNDING FOR THIS TO EVEN BE A VIABLE OPTION. 
          SO, UM, WHILE I FEEL AS THOUGH WE NEED TO EXPLORE THESE OPTIONS, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ANY FALSE HOPE. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 
          SO MAYOR, IF I MAY, YES. 
          I BELIEVE THE ANSWER 
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THAT WE LAST FOUND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND RESEARCH AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THAT 65 PRIVATE AND 90, UM, CORPORATE. 
          CORPORATE, CORRECT. 
          SORRY, MY VOICE IS GOING. 
          YEAH, SO THERE WOULD BE 65 INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD NEED TO AGREE TO TERMS AND THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO FUND THE DEED EXTENSION. 
          SAME WOULD GO FOR THOSE CORPORATE DEED RESTRICT, UM, CORPORATE PROPERTIES HELD WITH DEED RESTRICTION. 
          UM, CLEARLY WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH ONE DEED HOLDER PER PROPERTY. 
          THAT CORPORATION MIGHT HOLD A FEW. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE MATTERS THAT, UM, REQUIRE CONFIDENCE FROM US NOT TO DIVULGE THESE INDIVIDUALS, BUT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT. 
          UM, THERE'LL BE OBVIOUSLY MORE TO COME OF THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, A RULING ON FEBRUARY 2ND, AND THERE'S RESOLUTIONS AND MOTIONS THAT WILL NEED TO BE TAKEN IF WE DON'T WIN THAT. 
          SO I DID WANT TO, IF, IF I MAY, UM, I KIND OF ASKED MYSELF, AND I'M SURE YOU'RE ASKING YOURSELVES, WHAT DO WE DO IF WE LOSE? RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MONTVILLE CASE FALLS THROUGH? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT. 
          YEAH, THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO LET'S GO WITH IF THEY WIN. 
          'CAUSE I REALLY DO HOPE THEY WIN. 
          THEY'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR A PAUSE. 
          UM, THE JUDGE WILL DECIDE HOW LONG THE PAUSE CAN BE, BUT DURING THAT PAUSE WE GET TO RE-LOOK AT EVERYTHING. 
          BECAUSE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THIRD ROUND AND FOURTH ROUND IS THAT IN THE THIRD ROUND, UM, THE LAWYERS WERE ABLE TO GO BACK TO FAIR HOUSING, FAIR SHARE AND THE GOVERNMENT BODIES AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WANT THESE BONUS NUMBERS AND IF WE DO THIS, AND IF WE DO THAT, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GET SO MANY NUMBERS LOWERED, UM, THEY OUTSMARTED US AND ON THE FOURTH ROUND, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW AS MANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO IF WE GET THE PAUSE, IT JUST GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WORK WITH THOSE CORPORATIONS TO FIND THOSE ACTUAL DEED HOLDERS AND SPEAK TO THEM. 
          AND FRANKLY, IF WE CAN TALK THEM INTO IT YEAH. 
          AND COME UP WITH THE FUNDING, FIND OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          'CAUSE THEN THE FUNDING IS TO BE THE NEXT PART. 
          IF WE LOSE, WE NEED TO BE READY TO GO FOR MARCH 15TH, WE NEED TO BE READY TO GO AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR PLAN. 
          NOT THAT THE HOUSES ARE GONNA START IMMEDIATELY. 
          THOSE 1,245 HOUSES ARE NOT GONNA START MARCH 15TH. 
          WE'RE GONNA DRAG OUR FEET. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN TO SLOW IT DOWN AND KEEP FIGHTING AND HOPEFULLY GET MORE AND MORE DEEDS. 
          BUT WE NEED TO BE READY TO ANSWER FOR MARCH 15TH. 
          IF WE LOSE ON THE TIMELINE, IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT TOO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF THE PUBLIC, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, DOES THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS? I THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY PUBLIC COMMENT TO, TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS OR JUST A LAY PERSON WOULD KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND IT, AND IT, TO YOUR POINT, IT, IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PROFESSION IS NOT IN HOUSING OR DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, UM, COMING AT IT FROM MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          SO IT IS, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY YOU, THAT AT THIS POINT, I HAVE PROBABLY PUT IN ABOUT 150 HOURS ON LEARNING EVERY SINGLE THING I CAN ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TORTURING EVERY PERSON I KNOW WHO MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR KIM. 
          I, I THINK I'VE TEXTED HER 40 TIMES. 
          UM, LIKE ANYTHING I CAN LEARN, I'M GONNA LEARN IT. 
          UM, SO THAT I CAN BE THAT SUPPORT PERSON. 
          BUT TO YOUR TOTAL POINT, THERE'S, THERE'S WORDS I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD. 
          THAT MEANS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN USED IN THIS CONTEXT. 
          AND IT, IT'S BEEN AN EYE-OPENING. 
          MY POINT WAS YOU CAN'T EXPECT THE PUBLIC TO DO THAT. 
          THAT'S WONDERFUL THAT YOU PUT IN THE TIME. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COGNIZANT OF ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, YOU KNOW, I I I FEEL THE ACTIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE PREPARING FOR THE WORST, BUT HOPING FOR THE BEST. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, IF, AND I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO MIX THE, THE, THE NOTION OF WORST AFFORDABLE. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE AFFORDABLE IS BAD, I'M JUST SAYING THAT I, THE WAY IN WHICH WE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS ITS CHALLENGES. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, WHEN I WAS AT THE MONTVILLE CASE AND I'VE DONE SOME DUE DILIGENCE, MET WITH THE GRASSROOTS GROUPS, UM, I'M ALWAYS THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WANTS TO PREPARE FOR THE WORST, BUT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPE FOR THE BEST. 
          SO, UM, WE'LL NEED TO DISCUSS FUNDING AND THAT SHOULD BE OPTIONS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC IF WE ARE GONNA BUY BACK THE DEEDS MM-HMM . 
          UM, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. 
          OBVIOUSLY IF IT COMES UP IN THE BUDGET CYCLE, IS THAT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT COMES OUTTA THE GENERAL LEVY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE GO OUT FOR REFERENDUM FOR? SO, UM, WE'RE A LITTLE TOO EARLY 
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FOR THAT, BUT I THINK JUST HAVING SOME PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND SEEING WHERE WE COME AFTER THE SEC AFTER FEBRUARY 2ND OR FIRST, FIRST FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE PUT HIMSELF TO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF PREPARING FOR THAT. 
          WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT? CALLING AND MISINFORMATION. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          COULD I JUST CAUTION EVERYBODY AGAIN TO SPEAK INTO YOUR MIC? VERY CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE. 
          YOU HAVE TO VERY CLOSE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE, WE COULDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE THIRD DISCUSSION ITEM, WHICH WE'VE ADDED ENTITLED TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO START THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE BACKGROUND ON, FOR THE NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL PEOPLE. 
          UM, COUNCILWOMAN MILK AND I WE'RE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND REVIEWING WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, SO WHEN I, WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, UM, ONE OF MY FIRST CALLS WAS ACTUALLY TIP MR. SCHIFFER, SO  AND FILLED ME IN ON THE BACKGROUND OF, UM, WHAT HE'S BEEN EXPERIENCING ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          AND WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE CAME ON, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO RAISE MY HAND ALONG WITH, UH, MAYOR CIZIK. 
          I, MAYOR CIZIK ALSO LIVES ON THAT STREET. 
          I LIVE, UH, CLOSE BY. 
          UH, WE PUT IN 10, 11 MONTHS OF TIME WITH THE RESIDENTS OF TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          AND I HEARD ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS. 
          UH, MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM. 
          I, I, I SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH ON THE DAILY. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          UH, MY SON RIDES HIS BIKE ON THAT STREET, THAT THERE'S SPEEDERS, THERE'S, UH, THE CROSSWALK ISSUES. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, OUR HANDS ARE TIED AS FAR AS IT, SINCE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO FILL IN, UM, COUNCIL, UH, MIN COX AND, UH, SANTA MOORE ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          BUT I NOTICED THAT YOU DID HAVE, UM, FREE OF THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS HERE LAST FOR YOUR SWEARING IN. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE FOR ANY INFLUENCE OR ANY CONTACTS YOU GUYS CAN HAVE, SINCE THAT IS A COUNTY ROAD TO HELP US, UM, YOU KNOW, GET SOME OF THESE THINGS ACCOMPLISHED. 
          UM, OUR TAX SELLER SHOULD NOT BE GOING TOWARDS, UM, A ROAD THAT WE DON'T OWN. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT, UM, THAT YOU GUYS COULD HELP WITH AS FAR AS THAT, LIKE I SAID, I'M HAPPY TO FILL YOU IN ON ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE DOWN, UM, AND I'M SURE JIM AND MARY WILL DEFINITELY HELP OUT WITH THAT, BUT WAS FALLS ROAD CROSSWALK, UM, LOCUS CROSSWALK ENHANCEMENTS, WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND I REALIZE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HAD OUR HOPES UP AS FAR AS THAT GOES, AS FAR AS, UM, SUPPORT FROM THE OTHER TOWNS. 
          AND THEN WE DID NOT GET THAT SUPPORT. 
          UM, THEY PULLED OUT OF THAT, WHICH WAS, UH, VERY UPSETTING TO ALL OF US. 
          UM, SIGNAGE IMPROVEMENTS, ROAD SURFACE MARKING, SPEED LIMIT, SPEED LIMIT, SIGNAGE EXPANSION, UM, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THEY'RE UP TO THEIR DISCRETION WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. 
          BUT, UM, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, MAYOR CIZIK DID TYPE UP, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE. 
          I KNOW, UM, THE TOWN MANAGERS DID SHARE THAT, UH, THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO GO IN COLLABORATION WITH US. 
          THE SHARED SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR, UM, WAS IT A RADAR, RADAR SYSTEM? UM, IT WAS A FLASHING BEACONS AT THE CROSSWALK. 
          CROSSWALKS. 
          THOSE WERE ENHANCEMENTS TO FORGIVE ME, THE CENTER CROSSWALK. 
          I'M SURE THE PUBLIC WILL LET ME KNOW 'CAUSE I'M JUST, UM, JUST, UM, WE, WE BUILT A BY THE BY BEACH THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THE CENTER ONE AT THE CURB. 
          SO WE BUILT A CROSSWALK AT CHESTNUT DOWN BY THE COLONY CLUB. 
          THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES ON FALLS ROAD, WHICH IS UP MORE BY TAUNTON FORGE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THERE'S CURRENTLY A FLASHING BEACON AT LOCUST. 
          AT LOCUST, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, BUT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE COUNTY TO NOT ONLY APPROVE THAT, BUT FUND THAT MATTER. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, FOR ENHANCEMENTS TO THAT FLASHING CROSSWALK, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING. 
          BUT, UM, IF, I MEAN, IF I COULD ADD TO SURE, UH, WHAT COUNCILWOMAN MILK HAD STATED, UH, AFTER LAST MEETING, I ASKED THE CHIEF TO GATHER SOME STATISTICS FOR THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ENFORCEMENT OF TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS ALONG TAUNT BOULEVARD. 
          NOW, THE FIRST THING I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND IS WE'RE TALKING A STRETCH OF ROAD, MAYBE ONE MILE IN LENGTH MAX ONE 
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MILE. 
          WE PATROL OVER 200 MILES OF TOWNSHIP AND COUNTY ROADS. 
          SO, UH, FOR 2025, LAST YEAR WE WROTE 15% OF ALL TICKETS ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD, 15% FOR ONE MILE. 
          THE REST OF THE TOWN GOT 85% FOR ENFORCEMENT DETAILS, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DETAILS, 20% OF ALL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DETAILS WERE ON THIS ONE MILE STRETCH. 
          UM, MOTOR VEHICLE STOPS TAUNTON BOULEVARD, 11% OF ALL MOTOR VEHICLE STOPS IN THE TOWNSHIP OCCURRED ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          UM, THIS, UH, STRATEGY BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED. 
          UM, IT, IT'S BEAR OUT IN THE FACT THAT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY, WHICH IS MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, THE AVERAGE TRAFFIC COUNT, I THINK IS ABOUT 10,000 VEHICLES A DAY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR OF 2025. 
          THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 13 TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          AND OF THOSE JUST ONE WITH BODILY INJURIES. 
          SO PE-PEOPLE, IT, IT'S HARD TO, TO SPEED WHEN THE TRAFFIC IS HEAVY. 
          WE DO OUR BEST. 
          WE CAN'T ALWAYS BE OUT THERE WHEN IT'S AFTER HOURS. 
          BUT THE STATISTICS, THE STATISTICS DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE SPENDING A LARGE AMOUNT OF POLICE RESOURCES ON THIS ONE MILE STRETCH. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU MR. HARLE. 
          AND, AND TO COUNSEL. 
          I MEAN, THAT, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE, NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF TOTON BOULEVARD, BUT ALL RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD AND FOR IT BE A COUNTY ROAD AND THE NEED FOR COUNTY SUPPORT TO, TO, FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT SOME STRATEGIES OR DEPLOY SOME RESOURCES TO THAT AREA. 
          SO OUR TAX BASE ISN'T COVERING ALL THESE COUNTY ROAD, UM, COSTS BASICALLY. 
          SO YEAH, WE, WE ARE PRAYING THAT YOU CAN GET THE COUNTY ON BOARD WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD BECAUSE IT IS UNFAIR TO THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT OUR POLICE ARE DEDICATING SO MUCH TIME TO THAT ONE EIGHTH MILE STRETCH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD? NO, JUDGE, IF I CAN GET A LIST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          YES, THAT'D BE INTERRUPTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          AND MR. WARNER BULL AND POLICE CHIEF DUNLEVY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO JUST AS A, JUST TO CLOSE THAT SECTION OUT, BUT THESE INITIATIVES, FUNDING FROM OUR GENERAL BUDGET AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY, WE LOOK TO IMPLEMENT CHANGES THAT HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF THOSE THAT CALL TAUNTON BOULEVARD HOME. 
          UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, I LIVE ON TAUNTON ROAD, THAT TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          IT'S JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DOCKER IN, BUT, UM, BUT I STILL CARE DEEPLY ABOUT, UH, MY TOWN BOULEVARD NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT TOTON BOULEVARD? RIGHT, SO NOW 
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ALL OUR FAVORITE SECTIONS, PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, YEAH, I'M EXCITED AS WELL. 
          , WE, I GOTTA GO THROUGH THE SPIEL FIRST. 
          UM, SORRY. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE INCREDIBLE GIFT OF WHAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DO ACROSS THE WORLD. 
          COUNTLESS PEOPLE STILL DREAM OF THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE FREEDOMS THAT SO MANY BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES TO DEFEND THESE RIGHTS WE EXERCISED TONIGHT. 
          TO SPEAK OPENLY, TO DISAGREE RESPECTFULLY, AND TO THEM TO BE HEARD BY OUR COMMUNITY ARE NOT JUST A PRIVILEGE, THEY'RE AN UNALIENABLE GOD-GIVEN, RIGHT, PAID FOR, AND COURAGE AND SACRIFICE. 
          LET'S HONOR THAT BY ENGAGING EACH OTHER WITH CIVILITY, WITH RESPECT, AND WITH A SHARED COMMITMENT TO BUILDING STRONGER COMMUNITIES TOGETHER UNDER THE CURRENT LAW, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN FIVE MINUTES IN WHICH THEY ADDRESS THE CHAIR. 
          I ASK THAT MR. OGLE KEEP THE TIME AND PROVIDE A ONE MINUTE WARNING. 
          I ASK THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO HOLD THEIR COMMENTS TO THE END. 
          I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY REVIEW THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT FOR THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AS A TESTER. 
          SO TO MR. COX'S POINT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO, UH, DEPENDING ON THE TOPIC AT HAND UPON PRES PRESENTING, UH, IT'D BE SUBJECT TO THE MAYOR TO EXTEND IF NEEDED, FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE MINUTE, UH, UPON THE, UH, FIVE, IF WE GET CLOSE TO THAT FIVE MINUTE DEADLINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA DO A PLUS ONE MINUTE. 
          UM, AND, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND YOU'LL BE CALLED TO THE MICROPHONE. 
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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANY PORTION OF YOUR ADDRESS YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, PLEASE SPEAK LOUDLY AND CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE. 
          I, I'M SO SORRY. 
          I DID SEE THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK WITH HIS HAND UP FIRST. 
          YEAH, , IT'S FREEZING. 
          DO WE KNOW WHERE THIS GOES? THE AUDIO? YEAH. 
          IT GOES INTO A MIXER IN THE BACK ROOM AND UP INTO THE SPEAKERS, AND IT'S ALSO RECORDED BY THE CLERK. 
          NICE. 
          BRENDAN CANAVAN, 2 6 5 MEDFORD, MOUNT HOLLY ROAD, MEDFORD, NEW JERSEY 0 8 0 5 5. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT I, I, MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU. 
          I I COULD NEVER DO IT. 
          IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST SO PAINFUL TO WATCH . 
          UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I PUT IN MY APPLICATION FOR THE PLANNING BOARD, I THINK A DAY BEFORE THE LAST MEETING. 
          AND MAYOR, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE GONNA DO SATURDAY AFTERNOON INTERVIEWS AND, YOU KNOW, GET TO MEET THE APPLICANTS. 
          AND I WAS SITTING AT HOME BY MY PHONE WAITING FOR THAT, SAT THAT CALL TO COME IN ON A SATURDAY. 
          AND THEN I FOUND OUT THE POSITIONS WERE FILLED AND, AND I CRIED MYSELF TO SLEEP THAT NIGHT. 
          , I DON'T KNOW WHY I WANT TO DO THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT I GUESS I DO. 
          YOU KNOW, I WAS, UH, MY FIRST GORO WITH RAISING A FAMILY. 
          I WAS IN VORHEES AND I RAISED FOUR KIDS THERE, AND I ROSE UP THROUGH THE RANKS OF THE VORHEES SOCCER ASSOCIATION AS A WAY TO GIVE BACK, BUT STILL BE INVOLVED WITH MY KIDS, A FRIEND OF MINE. 
          AND I STARTED THE VORHEES LACROSSE YOUTH PROGRAM. 
          AND, UH, BECAUSE I HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWNSHIP COMMITTEE IN VORHEES, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE DEMOCRATS, I, UH, I WAS ASKED TO SIT ON A, ON A, ON A BOARD THAT HELPED THEM COME UP WITH THE BEST IDEAS THEY COULD COME UP WITH TO FACILITATE THE HOSPITAL, THE VIRTUAL HOSPITAL, WHICH WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I LIVED IN STURBRIDGE LAKES. 
          AND, UH, WE CAME UP WITH SOME REALLY COOL IDEAS AND, AND TRANSITION, LIKE, UM, DEVELOPMENT, WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE? TDRS? DEVELOP TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. 
          TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. 
          SO THE PEOPLE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET COULD GET SOME VALUE OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY BY SELLING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE THE HOSPITAL WAS GONNA BE BUILT. 
          SO THERE WERE SOME, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE IDEAS. 
          IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO DO IT. 
          WE JUST REPORTED BACK TO THE, TO THE TOWNSHIP WITH SOME, WITH WHAT WE HAD FOUND OUT. 
          AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE JUST A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. 
          I LIKE GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOT AT THE LEVEL. 
          YOU PEOPLE DO IT ALL RIGHT. 
          I DON'T JOIN THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          I DON'T, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT'S NOT ELECTED, SO I DON'T HAVE TO BE ELECTED TO IT. 
          BUT I DID READ ON THE BACK OF THIS, THAT IT CONSISTS OF NINE MEMBERS. 
          DID YOU GUYS SAY SEVEN? SEVEN PLUS TWO ALTERNATES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          SO DO I HAVE TO PUT IN ANOTHER APPLICATION SO I CAN WAIT BY MY PHONE FOR THE  FOR THE PHONE CALL? I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THE ONLY COMMENT I'LL HAVE ON, THE ONLY COMMENT I'LL HAVE ON THE, UH, ON THE, ON THE PEOPLE CALLING IN, AND YOU GO IN FROM 12 AND THEN YOU GET 50. 
          NOT THAT I WOULD KNOW ANYBODY THAT WOULD CALL TO JAM UP, YOU KNOW, 50 TIMES TO JAM THE COURT, SO TO SPEAK, TO LIMIT IT AND MAKE IT RANDOM. 
          OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT COME UP WITH THAT IDEA. 
          MAYBE YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PERSON. 
          THEY CAN'T JUST CLICK A BOX ONLINE AND CLICK, CLICK, CLICK. 
          YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LITTLE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          AND IF THE SAME PEOPLE START SAYING THEY WANT TO COME AND TALK AND NEVER SHOW UP, YOU OUGHT TO NOT COUNT THEM. 
          SO THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MY NAME'S TOM RANDY. 
          I LIVE AT 2 72 CHURCH ROAD IN MEDFORD. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND LIKE I HEARD AGAIN TONIGHT, THAT COUNCIL PLANS TO PURCHASE 
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THE EXTENDING RIGHTS TO ALL 157 UNITS, BOTH PRIVATE AND CORPORATE OWNED IN MEDFORD. 
          THIS WILL ELIMINATE THE NEED TO BUILD 785 HOUSES OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. 
          THE FUNDS CAN BE OBTAINED BY DEVELOPING AN RFP FOR THE AMOUNT NEEDED AND GOING OUT TO REFERENDUM. 
          I CALCULATED THE COST FOR A 30 YEAR REFERENDUM FOR THE AVERAGE HOUSE IN MEDFORD AT $330,320, AND IT COMES TO $104 PER YEAR TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER. 
          THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THIS IS WHEN YOU COMPARE THIS COST WITH THE EDUCATIONAL IMPACT ANALYSIS I PRESENTED LAST MONTH OF A YEARLY EDUCATIONAL IMPACT OF $20 MILLION PER YEAR, AND THE TOWNSHIP INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT AT A MINIMUM OF $12 MILLION A YEAR, THAT'S A TOTAL OF $32 MILLION A YEAR OF IMPACT BECAUSE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT MAKES THE COST OF BUYING THE LOW INCOME HOUSING RIGHTS A BARGAIN AND ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR 157 LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS, BUDGET ISSUES. 
          IT COULD BE DIFFICULT TO PUT IN THE MEDFORD BUDGET, THE AMOUNT NEEDED BECAUSE THE STATE ONLY GIVES YOU A 2% CAP ON YOUR YEARLY BUDGET. 
          AND THAT WOULD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT. 
          BUT THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE THE TOWNSHIP CAN BUDGET OVER THE CAP AND PRESENT A RESOLUTION TO DO SO ALONG WITH THE BUDGET, WITH THE REASON YOU SIMPLY PRESENT THE RESOLUTION TO THE STATE FOR APPROVAL. 
          THE STATE LISTS EXCEPTIONS THAT CAN BE USED TO BUDGET OVER THE CAP, AND ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS IS TO INCREASE DEBT SERVICE BY GOING OUT TO REFERENDUM. 
          YOU CAN SATISFY THAT. 
          AND THE EXTENDING, UH, COST OF LOW INCOME HOUSING RIGHTS FITS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE EXCEPTIONS THAT THE STATE LISTS THE LONG TERM IMPACT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE AT LEVEL FOUR, AND THIS ALMOST GETS US THROUGH LEVEL FOUR OF THE LAW, BUT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE NEXT PHASE COMES UP? WE'RE INTO LEVEL FIVE NOW. 
          MY OPTIMISTIC VIEW OF THE NEXT 10 YEARS AFTER LEVEL FOUR IS THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED. 
          WHY CURRENTLY THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF NEW JERSEY RESIDENTS ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS HIGH DENSITY HAVE IN LAW. 
          THEY ARE CON THEY ARE CON CONTACTING THEIR LEGISLATORS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, VOICING THEIR OBJECTIONS. 
          MUNICIPALITIES ARE FORMING COALITIONS OF 30 TOWNSHIPS AND MORE, AND FILING CLASS ACTS IN LAWSUITS TO DO AWAY WITH THIS LAW, INDICATING THAT THIS LAW IS DESTROYING WHERE WE LIVE AND DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY, THE RESIDENTS OF NEW JERSEY HAVE HAD ENOUGH. 
          THE OBJECTION WILL ONLY GROW AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO GET ELECTED TO OFFICE IS IF THEIR PLATFORM CONTAINS A, A, A STRONG FEELING OF DOING AWAY WITH THIS LAW. 
          ALL IN CLOSING, MR. RED, I'M STANDING HERE, AN OLD MAN OF 80 YEARS OLD, A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY 
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FOR NOT A LONG TIME, A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY, WHO ONLY HOPES THAT BEFORE I DIE, I CAN SEE THIS LAW ABOLISHED OR CHANGED. 
          SO IT DOES NOT DESTROY WHERE WE LIVE AND THE ENTIRE FABRIC OF NEW JERSEY AS THE GARDEN STATE BECAUSE IF THIS LAW PERSISTS, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY MORE GARDENS. 
          THANK MR. REDDY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DID EXTEND THE ONE MINUTE FOR THAT, FOR, FOR YOUR, FOR YOU AT THAT POINT. 
          JUST KEEPING SCORE. 
          THAT WAS ONE MINUTE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES, YOU DID GREAT. 
          WE DIDN'T WANT STOP YOU AT HOME WAS THE FOUR MINUTES OF YOU DID AWESOME. 
          UM, MR. SCHIFFER, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA FOLLOW THAT , I DON'T HAVE QUITE AS ELOQUENT OF SPEECH TO GIVE AS YOU GAVE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          MY NAME IS JIM SCHIFFER AND I LIVE AT 2 0 9 TOTON BOULEVARD, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE SPEEDING THAT GOES ON ON OUR ROAD. 
          MR. HORNIK, I APPRECIATE THE PERCENTAGES. 
          I TOOK STATISTICS IN COLLEGE. 
          YOU CAN MAKE STATISTICS SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, AND THE LAST TIME I CAME IN FRONT OF YOU FOLKS TWO WEEKS AGO, I INDICATED THAT WE HAD 18,000 PEOPLE A MONTH EXCEEDING 40 MILES AN HOUR ON A 30 MILE AN HOUR ROADWAY. 
          AND I THOUGHT I WOULD TAKE A DIFFERENT T THIS TIME AND LET YOU KNOW THAT IN A MONTH'S TIME, BASED ON NUMBERS PROVIDED IN JULY FROM THE MEDFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 400 PEOPLE A MONTH EXCEEDING 50 MILES AN HOUR ON A 30 MILE AN HOUR ROAD IN NOVEMBER, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GAVE OUT 11 TICKETS ON THAT ROADWAY. 
          15% OF THEIR TIME IS, MAY SOUND LIKE A LOT SPENT ON THAT ROADWAY MONITORING SPEED. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE SITTING OUT IN PLAIN VIEW, IT'S INEFFECTIVE TIME. 
          YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH ANYWHERE IN MEDFORD LAKES AND THE POLICE ARE HIDING BEHIND ON, OFF OF ROADWAYS. 
          THEY'RE HIDING BEHIND TREES. 
          I DON'T SEE THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH MEDFORD LAKES. 
          AND THIS IS JUST A REFLECTION OF WHAT IS ALSO GOING ON ON TAUNTON ROAD. 
          NOW, I DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR TAUNTON ROAD, BUT I DRIVE ON IT A LOT. 
          AND I'M SURE THAT THE SAME SPEEDING ISSUE IS GOING ON THERE. 
          AND THE OTHER PROBLEM WE HAVE ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD IS WE HAVE NEVER, EVER, IN THE SIX YEARS SINCE I STARTED DOING THIS IN NOVEMBER SIX YEARS AGO, WE HAVE NEVER SEEN A CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE TICKETED ON THAT ROAD. 
          ASK ANY, UH, THE 91 HOMES ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD. 
          I SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS, NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN A CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE PULLED OVER AND TICKETED. 
          AND I, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN NEVER GET AN ANSWER TO AS TO WHY TRACTOR TRAILERS AND CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ARE NEVER PULLED OVER. 
          THEY'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM. 
          IN FACT, WE HAVE REPORT HERE SAYING THAT CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, VEHICLES OVER FROM GREATER THAN 40 TO 70 FEET ARE NOW DRIVING AT 38 MILES AN HOUR OF AN 85 PERCENTILE ON THAT ROAD, A 30 MILE AN HOUR ROAD. 
          AND THE OTHER PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT AT ONE TIME, THE ENFORCEABLE SPEED WAS SEVEN MILES AN HOUR OVER THE ROADWAY. 
          NOW THAT THESE REPORTS HAVE INCREASED IT TO 10 MILES AN HOUR, SO FOR THEM TO SAY THAT 85% OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AND LARGE TRUCKS ARE NOW GOING OVER 38 MILES AN HOUR ON THAT, ON A 30 MILE AN HOUR ROADWAY. 
          AND WE'VE NEVER SEEN ONE PULLED OVER. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT 180 OF THOSE VEHICLES EVERY SINGLE DAY ON THAT ROADWAY. 
          PERHAPS YOU HAVE CONNECTIONS THAT EVESHAM THAT YOU COULD GET, UH, WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT HAS BETHANY HAD MENTIONED. 
          WE TRIED HARD, BUT ECHE WAS GONNA VOTE ON WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. 
          AND THEN THEY APPOINTED A NEW TOWNSHIP MANAGER WHO PUT THE KIBOSH ON ALL OF THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DECIDED TO DO THAT, BUT THEY WERE, THEY WERE GONNA VOTE AND IT CAME OFF THE AGENDA LIKE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING, HE PULLED IT. 
          SO THEY WERE GONNA PUT WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON HOPEWELL ROAD AND TOMLINSON MILL AND THEN TAUNTON ROAD, WHICH WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I'VE SAID IT A MILLION TIMES, WE'VE GOT HOUSES ON TAUNTON BOULEVARD THAT SIT, THEIR FRONT STEP IS 10 FEET FROM THE ROADWAY AND WE HAVE 50 TON DUMP TRUCKS FLYING DOWN THAT ROAD ALL DAY 
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LONG. 
          TRACTOR TRAILERS, 18 WHEEL TRACTOR TRAILERS. 
          OUR HOUSES SHAKE CONSTANTLY. 
          BUT IT, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE ENFORCEABLE LIMIT WAS RAISED TO 10 MILES AN HOUR WHEN EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD KNOWS IT'S USUALLY SEVEN IF YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF YOUR TRUCK FLYING DOWN, UH, 2 95, YOU TRY TO STAY AROUND. 
          LIKE IF IT'S A 65, YOU TRY TO STAY AROUND 72. 
          WELL, NOW ON TOON BOULEVARD, THE ENFORCEABLE SPEED LIMIT IS 10. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, ALL THESE VEHICLES, ALL 73,000 IN A MONTH ARE 85% OF THEM ARE NOW GOING 38 MILES AN HOUR. 
          WHEN I STARTED THIS SIX YEARS AGO, THE 85 PERCENTILE WAS 34 MILES AN HOUR. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE THINK THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING A BETTER JOB. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT SITTING OUT ON THAT ROADWAY IN PLAIN VIEW IS NOT ENFORCEMENT. 
          IT ONLY WORKS FOR THE 10 MINUTES THAT THEY'RE SITTING OUT THERE. 
          THEY MIGHT PULL OVER ONE VEHICLE EVERY COUPLE DAYS, BUT IT'S NOT WORKING. 
          AND WE NEED BETTER ENFORCEMENT OF A POSTED SPEED LIMIT. 
          WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS. 
          WE BOUGHT OUR HOMES IN GOOD FAITH. 
          WE EXPECT THAT SPEED LIMIT TO BE ENFORCED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN GOOD FAITH. 
          I'LL GIVE, I'LL GRANT. 
          I DON'T NEED ANY MORE TIME. 
          I THINK I'VE EXHAUSTED MY, MY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH THE COUNTY? WHO WHAT ABOUT MY OH, THE COUNTY. 
          WELL, THEY'RE A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE BECAUSE, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED TWO WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS GAVE ME AN ELECTORAL ON WHAT A GREAT JOB THE ENGINEER OF THE COUNTY DOES, RANDY BROER. 
          AND THEN I FIND OUT THAT RANDY BROER IS THE HEAD UNION CHIEF OF A CONSTRUCTION UNION. 
          SO HE'S GOT, HE'S GOT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          HE NEEDS TO RECUSE HIMSELF. 
          AND I TOLD HIM THAT OUT IN THE HALLWAY AT THE, AFTER THE LAST MEETING BECAUSE FOR HIM TO SIT THERE AND LECTURE ME ON TRUCKS TRAVELING DOWN TOLTON BOULEVARD, IT'S NONSENSE WHEN HE HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THOSE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES GOING DOWN TOLTON BOULEVARD. 
          SO I'M NOT DONE WITH THAT. 
          MIKE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, , I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME MR. SCHIFFER. 
          JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, MR. SCHIFFER, I DID SPEAK TO THE, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR OF HAM LAST WEEK AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, ON THIS TOPIC. 
          AND I ASKED HER ABOUT, UH, THE REASONS WHY THEY PULLED THE RESOLUTION AND THE TOPIC FROM THE MEETING AGENDA. 
          APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE WORDING THAT WAS IN THAT RESOLUTION. 
          SO HER AND I DON'T HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING. 
          UH, WITH, WITH EVESHAM AS WELL. 
          YOU'LL BE MY NEW HERO. 
           NICOLE, 1 52 TOTON BOULEVARD. 
          I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW JIM. 
          UM, I WAS A PART OF THE TOON BOULEVARD SUBCOMMITTEE, AS YOU KNOW. 
          IT WAS GREAT WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAD SIX MEETINGS OVER SIX MONTHS. 
          THERE WAS SOME SUCCESS MADE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE LEFT UNDONE AND NOT FOLLOWED UP WITH, WITH OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          JIM CHOOSES WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AND TRUCKS AS HIS SUBJECT. 
          I GO MORE FOR THE SAFETY SIDE AS FAR AS CROSSWALKS. 
          AND THE EQUAL PART OF IMPORTANCE FOR WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS WAS THE CROSSWALKS, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT BEING FALLS ROAD. 
          WE WERE PROMISED A FOLLOW UP FROM YOU, MIKE, AND FROM OUR ENGINEER AS FAR AS HAVING, UH, AN ESTIMATE OF THE COST OF THAT SO THAT WE COULD GO TO THE COUNTY AND ASK THEM FOR 50% OF THAT. 
          WE DID NOT GET THAT FOLLOW UP. 
          WE ALSO DID NOT GET AN EMAIL THAT THIS DISCUSSION WAS HAPPENING TONIGHT. 
          SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE, A NICE FOLLOW UP FOR US TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THAT FALLS ROAD CROSSWALK, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, MIKE AND BETHANY WALKED THAT WITH US WITH THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SAW THAT WITHIN ABOUT A 10 MINUTE PERIOD, THERE WERE 15 PEOPLE THAT CROSSED THE FALLS ROAD INTERSECTION. 
          MANY, UH, FAMILIES AND STROLLERS, CHILDREN ON BIKES, UM, THAT'S NOT JUST ENJOYED BY LAKE PINE, BUT BY YOU AS WELL THAT LIVE IN, IN SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE THAT YOU KNOW, DANIEL, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE STATISTICS, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS CONGESTION OF PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK IS THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT A COUNTY ROAD GOES THROUGH THAT, UM, MEDFORD OVERSEES AND TO THE POINT OF, OF AS MANY TICKETS THAT ARE BEING GIVEN OUT THERE, I THINK THAT STANDS TO, TO SHOW HOW MUCH SPEEDING IS ACTUALLY GOING ON THERE THROUGH A VERY DENSE, VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY. 
          LAKE PINE IS NOT JUST LIKE A SUBDIVISION ON THE SIDE OF A COUNTY ROAD. 
          THE COUNTY ROAD GOES THROUGH THAT. 
          AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T FOR YOU TO HEAR, IT'S FOR THE COUNTY TO HEAR. 
          AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT OUR FIGHT CONTINUES WITH THEM. 
          UM, BUT OUR COMMUNITY IS SUPER ACTIVE. 
          I MEAN, IT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF HALF OF OUR POPULATION. 
          WE HAVE THREE BEACHES. 
          WE HAVE OVER 50 EVENTS A YEAR. 
          WE USED TO HAVE A PARADE. 
          WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, LAKE PINE'S ALREADY MADE A LOT OF COMPROMISES 
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AND CONCESSIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE TOWN. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, MORE NOW THAN EVER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SAFETY FOR THE PEDESTRIANS CROSSING, ESPECIALLY AT FALLS ROAD. 
          AS YOU KNOW, IT CONNECTS TAMARACK, IT CONNECTS, UM, MOST OF THE OTHER PART OF THE LAKE. 
          IT CONNECTS US ALL TO TAUNTON FORGE. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S BUSY, IT'S DANGEROUS. 
          AND IF YOU COULD REALLY HELP US PUSH THROUGH FOR THAT PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY WITH LIGHTS, UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE FOLLOW UP AND WE, WE APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION WITH, WITH ALL OF YOU. 
          COULD I SAY SOMETHING? SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I HAD A HARD TIME WITH THIS. 
          I'M SORRY, . 
          I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THE TIME. 
          ARE YOU? OH, OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          ARE YOU, DO YOU YIELD THE REST OF YOUR TIME? YEAH, I, NO, NO, NO. 
          I'M FINISHED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE STATISTICS, I, YOU KNOW, I WANNA SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT I LIVE CLOSE TO THEIR KNOWHOW, HOW DANGEROUS IT IS. 
          THE STATISTICS SEEM TO ME THAT IF THAT'S WHERE IT'S NEEDED, RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD PUT THE RESOURCES, RIGHT? IS ARE THE, ARE THE RESOURCES TAKEN FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE THAT'S HAVING PROBLEMS? THAT'S, YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S, THAT WASN'T MADE, MADE CLEAR EXACTLY. 
          OF LIKE, HOW ARE, HOW COULD THESE RESOURCE RESOURCES BE BETTER USED SOMEWHERE ELSE IF, IF THERE AREN'T OTHER CONGESTED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THIS, THAT THE ROADS ARE GOING THROUGH THAT ARE THAT BUSY. 
          'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PLACE TO PUT YOUR RESOURCES. 
          IT DOES, IT DOES. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT. 
          BUT, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LAKE PINE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S THE ONLY COMMUNITY AND THIS KIND OF, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION, BUT WITH YOUR ZONING BOARD AND YOUR PLANNING BOARD, BE CAREFUL WHAT LOG CABIN YOU KNOCK DOWN. 
          THERE'S REALLY NONE THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER THAN LAKE PINE. 
          THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT EXIST IN MEDFORD TOWNSHIP. 
          YOU KNOW, MEDFORD LAKES HAS A HANDLE ON THEIRS. 
          I THINK IT'S REALLY TIME. 
          YOU GUYS, THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD STARTS TO GET CONSERVATIVE ABOUT WHAT THEY ALLOW GO THROUGH, UH, ON LAKE PINE. 
          AND I THINK THEY SHOULD PUSH BACK ON KNOCKDOWNS OF, OF LOG CABINS BEFORE THEY GET APPROVED. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I'M, I'M I I'LL YOU'LL BE NEXT. 
          SO JUST, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON NICOLE, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON YOUR COMMENT. 
          SO, UM, AND IT IS IN THE DEBRIEF, WE DID DISCUSS IT AT THE LAST SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, THE CHALLENGES WITH FALLS ROAD CROSSWALK CONFLICT WITH PRIVATELY HELD STAKEHOLDERS AND A, A VIABLE CROSSWALK TO BE BUILT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S BEEN STALLED. 
          UM, FOR THOSE THAT KNOW BEAU RVIS TOWNSHIP OWNS THE PARKING LOT AT BEAU RAVAGE, BUT BEAU RAVAGE ITSELF IS OWNED BY A PRIVATELY HELD STAKEHOLDER. 
          SO WITHOUT, UM, AN AGREEABLE PATH FORWARD, THERE'S NO VIABLE PATH FOR US TO BUILD A SAFE CROSSWALK THERE. 
          THAT'S WHY I I, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU A NUMBER OF A COST THAT FOR SOMETHING WE CAN'T BUILD YET. 
          SO, UM, THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH THE PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS ARE GOING ON. 
          UM, WE HOPE TO HAVE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL THROUGH PLANNING, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, EVEN A VIABLE PLAN FOR A CROSSWALK. 
          AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT YOU PUT INTO DRAFTING THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. CARNE IS NEXT. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, IT'S DAVE CARNES NINE ATKINSON COURT. 
          I, UH, CAME HERE WITH A LOT TO SAY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEE SOME CHANGE HERE. 
          MAYBE WE CAN HIT THE RESET BUTTON, DO A, DO OVER START FRESH. 
          UM, EVERYBODY SEEMED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER PRETTY WELL TONIGHT, AND I LIKE SEEING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND SO ANYWAY, I HAVE TO CHANGE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS UP, . 
          SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I, I AM CONCERNED, UM, OBVIOUSLY ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S COME OUT LATELY. 
          AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SAM OAKS PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND ARE WE CAUGHT UP? I KNOW ROUND THREE, WE DIDN'T FINISH ROUND THREE RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO FLYING W THAT'S THE PART OF ROUND THREE. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO AT THAT POINT WE'LL BE ALL CAUGHT UP AND THEN THERE'S ROUND FOUR WE'RE DEALING WITH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONCE WE DO FLYING W THAT'S IT, WE'RE GOING TO ROUND FOUR. 
          WELL, WE HAVE TO DO FLYING W AT THE SAME TIME AS RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          BUT WE'RE, WE'RE DONE WITH ROUND TWO. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL THE PRIOR ROUNDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND ALL THE OTHER PARTS OF ROUND THREE ARE DONE OTHER THAN FLYING DUCK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ISN'T SAMOS, DOESN'T HE HAVE A BUNCH OF UNITS LIKE 650 PLANNED? WE HAVE NO PLAN FOR MR. SAMOS ACTIVELY BEFORE 
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THE TOWNSHIP. 
          OKAY. 
          HE HAD PRIOR PLANS. 
          AND DAVID, THIS WILL TAKE AN HOUR IF WE REALLY GO INTO IT, BUT HE HAD PRIOR PLANS THAT, UH, THE APPROVALS FOR WHICH HAVE LONG SINCE EXPIRED. 
          THERE WAS LITIGATION WITH, HE HAD A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, HE HAD A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER WHO WENT BANKRUPT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S A LONG HISTORY TO IT, BUT THERE ARE NO ACTIVE PLANS. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR SEMI, HE DOES OWN SEWER PERMITS UNDER THE 1983 ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PRE-PURCHASE RIGHT. 
          SEWER PERMITS FOR YOUR PROPERTY, SEW UP TO THE DENSITY. 
          SO HE OWNS SEWER PERMITS, BUT HE HAS NO, THERE ARE NO ACTIVE PLANS BEFORE THE TOWN. 
          BUT HE HAD, HE HAD SUBMITTED A PLAN WITH, WITH 24 AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          CORRECT. 
          OH, AS PART OF THOSE PRIOR APPROVALS THAT HAVE LONG SINCE EXPIRED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE 60 UNITS AND THE 24 UNITS, THE 60 UNITS WERE BUILT. 
          THAT'S THE INMAN PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY BUILT. 
          UH, UH, AT PART AROUND THE PRIOR ROUND AND THE 24, HE HAD A RETAIL, UH, UH, FACILITY, UM, UH, OFFICE BUILDING THAT HE SUBSTITUTED WITH RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR. 
          24 AFFORDABLE UNITS, ACTUALLY 12 OF FOUR. 
          WE UNITS WITH 12 BONUS CREDITS ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT WERE NEVER BUILT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S WAS PART OF ROUND THE PRIOR ROUNDS THAT HAVE NOW BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PLAN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S, I I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HE'S GONNA BUILD, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT SAM'S GONNA BUILD. 
          I I FEEL LIKE I JUST HAVE THIS FEELING THAT WE'RE NOT BEEN WORKING WITH SAMOS, LIKE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER LANDOWNERS. 
          AND I, THAT'S JUST AN INKLING. 
          IT'S, I GOT NO PROOF, BUT I KNOW HE'S GONNA BUILD, WELL HE HASN'T BUILT IN ALMOST 30 YEARS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE, HAS ANYBODY FROM THE TOWNSHIP TRIED TO TALK TO HIM? 'CAUSE HE'S GONNA BUILD ON THIS LAND AND IT'S JUST NOT GONNA WORK. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WORK WITH SAMOS. 
          HE'S UNDER LITIGATION WITH THE TOWN HE BELIEVES. 
          RIGHT? 'CAUSE HE WANTS TO BUILD NO, HE, HE BELIEVES THAT HIS PRIOR APPROVALS WERE JEOPARDIZED 'CAUSE OF ACTIONS BY THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER IN REVISING, UH, SEWER PER, UH, SEWER PIPES TO SERVE THE 60 UNIT AFFORDABLE THOUSAND. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, HE'S PROBABLY P****D BECAUSE HE BOUGHT THESE PERMITS AND THEN EVERYBODY'S BUILDING WITHOUT THE PERMITS. 
          COULD THAT BE PART OF IT OR NO, HE HAD A RIGHT TO, HE HAD A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE THIRD ROUND. 
          HE HAD A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FOURTH ROUND. 
          I TOLD HIM THAT WE WOULD NOT ENTERTAIN ANY APPLICATION FROM HIM IN THE FOURTH ROUND UNLESS HE SETTLED THE LAWSUIT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA DO WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTIVELY SUING. 
          IT'S FOR YOU DON'T HAVE A DISPUTE WITH, WITH SAMOS. 
          YOU AND HIM DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL PROBLEM? NOT AT ALL. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S BEING REPRESENTED BY MR. NORMAN WHO WAS THE PRO, MY PREDECESSOR. 
          THAT'S HOW FAR RIGHT BACK THIS GOES. 
          HE'S REPRESENTING THE TOWNSHIP ON IT. 
          I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MR. SAMOS OTHER THAN I CONTACTED HIS ATTORNEY. 
          THEY FILED AN OBJECTION TO THE FOURTH ROUND PLAN. 
          WE DEALT WITH THE OBJECTION. 
          THE COURT BASICALLY THREW IT OUT AND HE'S STILL GOT THE PERMITS. 
          HE'S STILL GOT HIS LAND. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO WAY YOU GUYS COULD TRY TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND SAY, LOOK, I MEAN, HE'S NEAR 70. 
          HE'S, HE'S GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          IT KIND OF, AND HE'S GONNA BUILD, WHETHER YOU GUYS BUILD 5,000 HOMES OR 20,000 HOMES, SAMOS IS GOING TO DEVELOP HIS LAND AND HE'S GONNA WIN IN COURT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO STOP HIM. 
          IT'S JUST, WELL, HE'S GOT LAND AND HE'S GOT THESE PERMITS. 
          NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STUFF'S OUTDATED THAT HE'S GOTTA GO THROUGH, THROUGH PROCESS. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT HE HAS TO THEN FILE THE EXISTING ZONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO DO, HE HAD A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL COME BACK WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          SURE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL COME BACK WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL COME BACK WITH IT. 
          HE'S RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          HE'S GOTTA MAKE HIS DECISIONS ON WHAT HE DOES WITH HIS OWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S BUT, BUT YOU'RE WORKING WITH OTHER LANDOWNERS. 
          SURE. 
          WE CAN'T WORK WITH SAMOS. 
          I DON'T, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. 
          WE'RE NOT, IT DOESN'T, HE'S GONNA BUILD, HE'S GONNA MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY OFF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S A GOLD RUSH. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, SO WHY ISN'T HE PART OF IT? WE UNDERSTAND HIS POSITION IS THAT HE'S ALREADY SATISFIED HIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING OBLIGATION ON HIS PIECE. 
          HE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO  WHO BUILT THE 60 UNITS, AND HE HAS AN ONGOING PLAN FOR 24 UNITS IF HE EVER, IF HE, SO HE'S GOT AN ONGOING PLAN FOR 24 AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          NO, HE DOES NOT HAVE A PLAN. 
          I'VE INSISTED THAT IF HE EVER DEVELOPS HIS PROPERTY, HE'S GOT A, PROVIDE THOSE 24 UNITS THAT HE PROMISED IN THE THIRD ROUND. 
          HIS POSITION IS, THAT'S ALWAYS OBLIGATED TO DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN AND LOOK AT THIS WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND MAYBE, MAYBE THE OUTCOME CAN BE DIFFERENT. 
          MAYBE WE CAN SAY TO SAMOS, WE'RE GONNA THROW YOU A BONUS. 
          I DON'T KNOW, WORK WITH HIM BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT THERE. 
          HE'S GOT THE PROPERTY BEHIND WAWA RUN A ROAD RIGHT OUT THE 70. 
          THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT'S ALREADY SEMI DEVELOPED. 
          HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA BILL, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. 
          AND, 
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AND SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE HASN'T BEEN MORE, I MEAN, YOU'VE EXPLAINED SOME OF THIS STUFF AND AGAIN, LITIGATION'S COMPLICATED. 
          I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE DOESN'T WANNA BE PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO PART OF THIS ROUND, I'M SORRY, PART OF THIS ROUND BECAUSE THEN HE COULD, HE DOESN'T THINK HE HAS ANY OBLIGATION TO DO ANYTHING THIS ROUND. 
          HE, HIS POSITION IS THAT HE'S SATISFIED HIS PROPERTY'S OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO WHATEVER HE COMES IN WITH, HE'S GONNA SAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATION. 
          I SAID, AT LEAST GIVE US THE 24. 
          SO HE'S SAYING HE WON'T, HE WILL NOT PUT ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENOUGH. 
          THAT'S WHAT HE'S GONE ON A RECORD AND SAID OR HE SAID THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, HE SAID AT THE COURT HEARING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE. 
          YEP. 
          ONE MORE MINUTE, SIR. 
          OH, UM, LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE I GOT HERE. 
          MIKE'S A JERK. 
          NOPE. 
          CROSS THAT ONE OFF. 
          , UH OH. 
          WHO, WHO'S GONNA OVERSEE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? IN WHAT WAY? THERE'S, THERE'S COMPANIES LLCS LIKE THAT OVERSEE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THE MANAGEMENT ARE ARE YOU, IS YOUR FIRM PART OF ANY OVERSIGHT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE A LANDLORD, RIGHT? NO MISSING UP. 
          THERE'S ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AND WILL BE BUILT. 
          RIGHT. 
          TRIAD ASSOCIATES IS A WELL-KNOWN, UH, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THERE ARE ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THEY ADMINISTER ALL THE RENTALS, ALL THE RIGHT COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS. 
          AND THEY WOULD DO THAT WITH THE NEW FOUR, UH, ROUND FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN THEY'RE EVER BILLED. 
          ARE YOU INVOLVED IN THAT? NO. 
          YOUR LAW FIRM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OVERSEEING NO. 
          THAT THE MEDFORD AFFORDABLE. 
          YOU DON'T, THAT'S NOT AN ACTIVE, THE MEDFORD AFFORDABLE LLC. 
          ARE YOU STILL ACTIVELY THAT WAS 35 YEARS. 
          I I KNOW I HEARD IT FROM PAT. 
          IT'S TRUE. 
          SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU, IT DOESN'T EXIST. 
          ALL WAS DISSOLVED 35 YEARS AGO. 
          LET'S SEE HERE. 
          MIKE'S A JERK. 
          I'M CROSS THAT ONE OFF AGAIN, GUYS. 
          HAVE A GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          UM, I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST, BUT I HAVE A FOLLOW UP AS WELL. 
          I JUST, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. 
          MR. PRIME, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE SAMS PROPERTY AND, AND YOU SAID HE HAD SATISFIED 69 UNITS. 
          I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY HE, UH, 60 UNITS WERE BUILT. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE. 
          WE ALREADY GOT CREDIT FOR THOSE MM-HMM . 
          IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UH, PRIOR ROUND. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          AND HE HAD CHANGED HIS PLAN TO PROVIDE FOR 24 MORE THAT WERE NEVER BUILT BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS NEVER BUILT. 
          AND WHICH, WHICH ROUND WAS THAT IN PRIOR? BOTH WERE PRIOR ROUNDS. 
          THEY, THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED WITH THE THIRD ROUND AT ALL. 
          SO, SO ROUND TWO TWO, THERE WAS ROUND ONE OR ROUND TWO? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE WERE MONTHS BECAUSE PRIOR ROUND THERE WAS REALLY NEVER ANY YEAH. 
          THOSE PIECES STATUTE LIKE THAT. 
          SO WAS WAS HIS AREA DECLARED AN AREA REDEVELOPMENT ALSO? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          HE, HE, HE, HE WAS DECLARED AN AREA NEEDED REDEVELOPMENT. 
          HE WAS ALSO GIVEN A, WHAT THEY CALL A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL. 
          YOU GET A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL. 
          THAT'S GOOD FOR, I THINK IT WAS GOOD FOR SEVEN YEARS, ALL OF WHICH HAVE EXPIRED NOW. 
          BUT THE BUT THE RE HIS, HIS DESIGNATION AS AN AREA OF REDEVELOPMENT HASN'T EXPIRED THOUGH. 
          THAT'S SO IT IS IN EXISTENCE. 
          IT HAS NOT EXPIRED. 
          I HAVE BEEN ANY, BEEN UNABLE TO IDENTIFY WHEN HE WAS ACTUALLY DECLARED AN AREA NEED TO REDEVELOPMENT. 
          HE'S INSISTENT. 
          HE IS, HE CAN'T PROVIDE PROOF THAT HE WAS OKAY. 
          THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL GAVE HIM THE GENERAL ZONING APPROVAL, BUT NO REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS EVER DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, AND, AND THIS PRECEDED ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE LAST 10 YEARS AND BEING VERY CAREFUL WHAT I SAY, MR. SAMOS IS VERY LITIGIOUS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HE HANDLES THINGS THROUGH LITIGATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS OPENING UP AND HAVING A DISCUSSION. 
          I I'M JUST TRYING, TRYING TO GET A SENSE. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND LIKE, 'CAUSE LIKE THE ZONING AND PLANNING APPROVALS MAY HAVE EXP EXPIRED. 
          THEY HAVE, YES. 
          AND THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY HIS PINE LAND APPROVAL MEYER. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE STILL HAS AN EXISTING REDEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION AND THAT CARRIES FORWARD WHAT IMPACT THAT MAY, THAT MAY PLAY EVEN IF IT WAS DECLARED A NEED IN NEEDED REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE DISPUTE MM-HMM . 
          THERE WAS NEVER A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN PROVIDES YOU WITH THE ZONING AND THE STANDARDS AS YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, JUST SO WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO OUR, UH, RESOLUTION. 
          I'M SORRY, OUR ORDINANCE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I DID NOTE THE FIRST SPEAKER, UM, MADE A COMMENT THAT IF WE WANTED TO REMOVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP BUT NOT SHOWN UP, I THINK THAT WAS A VALID, THAT WAS VALID POINT. 
          YES. 
          AND, UM, TO MR. S'S, UM, COMMENTS, UM, HE HAD YIELDED HIS, HE HAD, HE WAS ENGAGING IN BACK AND FORTH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HE WAS ASKING QUESTIONS TO EITHER PROFESSIONALS OR COUNSEL. 
          UM, WE WILL NEED TO MAKE DETERMINATION IF THAT COUNTS AGAINST THIS TIME OR NOT. 
          UM, BUT I HAVE THOSE FOR THE RECORD. 
          I THINK THE INTENT 
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IS I SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL HE WAS YEAH, UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND, AND I DON'T, BUT I WAS TRYING TO YEAH. 
          AND IF, AND IF THE, IF THE SPEAKER'S ASKING FOR A BACK AND FORTH, I BELIEVE, THIS IS MY OPINION, THAT THAT SHOULD COUNT AGAINST THEIR TIME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT IF THEY'RE JUST ASKING YOU QUESTIONS AND WANT FEEDBACK LATER, AS OF , THAT SHOULD NOT COUNT AGAINST THEIR TIME. 
          I'LL DEFER TO YOU IN THE FUTURE. 
          I MEAN, WELL, WE WILL WORK IT OUT. 
          YES SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU'LL BE NEXT SIR. 
          UM, MY, MY NAME IS MARU, THE FIVE SWIFT COURT. 
          UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE ON PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN QUESTION ON THAT. 
          UH, SAMOS, I KNOW THAT, UH, PROJECT VERY WELL 'CAUSE I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, A MIXED USE PROJECT. 
          BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL HAD STRIP MALL AND BOX STORES AND RESIDENTIAL HAD TOWN HOMES, CONDOS AND LAKELAND PROPERTIES AND THEN AGE RESTRICTED HOMES. 
          AND THEN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PRIME HAD ALREADY BUILT, I KNOW THAT IT'S 54 UNITS. 
          60. 
          60, 60. 
          NOW THE PROJECT IS ON HOLD. 
          SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE TAX COMING IN BECAUSE OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BASE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BILL. 
          SINCE THIS IS BILL, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY TAX. 
          SO, UM, THE BUILDER REMEDY IS THE ONE WAY STREET BUILDER REMEDIES ARE SCARY. 
          I KNOW. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY WE WANT LOG CABINS OR WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS PROJECT HE DID, NOTHING WAS BUILT EXCEPT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TAX TAXES WE'RE GETTING, BUT WE ARE PROVIDING ALL THE OTHER SERVICES. 
          IS THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE WAY. 
          LIKE BUILDERS CAN COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD, UH, WE HAVE TO A PARAMETERS TO BUILD THE OTHER UNITS. 
          BUT IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, WHAT SAMOS PROJECT WAS NOT A BUILDER REMEDY SUIT. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          IT WAS DONE BY THE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL AT THE TIME HAVING AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM. 
          HE HAD A WHOLE PLAN, AS YOU CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT HE NEVER, NEVER DEVELOPED. 
          I KNOW WHY IT WAS NOT BUILT. 
          IT WAS 2005, IT WAS APPROVED. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS REAL ESTATE MARKET COLLAPSED. 
          HE WAS BUILDING THE LAKE FUND PROPERTIES AND UH, LENNAR BACKED OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BUY THAT LOT AT THAT PRICE. 
          WHEN THEY BACKED OUT, THE WHOLE PROJECT WENT DOWN. 
          NOW THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE BUILT. 
          WE'RE PAYING ALL THE SERVICES, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING IN TURN, WHICH THE COMMERCIAL BASE AT THAT TIME SUPPOSED TO INCREASE OUR TAX PAY, BUT IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH. 
          BUT IS THAT, IS THAT LIKE ONE WAY THAT BUILDERS CAN COME IN? WELL, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS? FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          NOW THEY HAVE TO BUILD THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          IF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IS GONNA COLLAPSE, THIS IS NOT GONNA, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE GOING UP HIGH. 
          IF THEY CAN'T SELL IT, THEY WILL STOP. 
          NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS, THESE UNITS. 
          IT'S A RISK. 
          NO. 
          IS IS, IS THAT ONE WAY STREET FOR THEM, MR. PER IF, IF WE MAY, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO OCCUPY YOUR TIME, BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CURRENT QUESTION THAT ACTUALLY I HAD OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, MR. BOIZ, YOU ADDRESSED ALL THAT QUESTION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SORRY, MY, THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING NOW AND, AND, UM, THE OUTCOME OF IT AND ALSO WHAT, UH, TOWNSHIP IS TRYING TO DO IS TO BUY THE, THE DEEDS. 
          UH, THE ONE AND ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UH, WE ARE UP AGAINST THIS TIME, THE MARCH 15TH. 
          WHY WAS NOT THIS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PROCESS OF BUYING THE LEAD A YEAR AGO? MR. PRIME, DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT HERE? IT, IT WAS AS SOON AS WE FOUND OUT OUR NUMBER, WHICH WE HAD TO WAIT FOR DCA TO CALCULATE OUR, UH, OBLIGATION 171 UNITS, THEN WE STARTED WORKING ON TRYING TO, TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          OH KNOW, BUT IT WAS A YEAR AGO. 
          IT WAS OCTOBER I BELIEVE. 
          OH, OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. 
          OCTOBER OF 20, UH, LAST YEAR. 
          BUT IT WAS ONLY A FEW MONTHS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THE WHAT WAS NOT OCTOBER OF 2024? WELL, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW THE NUMBER. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE MONVILLE LAWS. 
          MAY I USE YOUR TIME, SIR? YEAH. 
          UH, THAT'S PART OF WHAT MONVILLE IS SAYING IS THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T EVEN TOLD WHAT THEIR NUMBERS WERE UNTIL SO LATE AND THEN THEY WERE TOLD THEIR NUMBERS AND THEN GET THE RESPONSE. 
          SO 
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THE GOOD NEWS IS EVEN IF MARCH 15TH COMES AND GOES, WE CAN STILL WORK TO GET ANY OF THE DEEDS EXTENDED THAT WE WANT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE BUILDERS AND SAY, SORRY. 
          YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO CUT YOUR NUMBERS. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO CUT YOUR NUMBERS. 
          WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT GONNA STOP DEEDS JUST 'CAUSE IT'S MARCH 15TH. 
          OKAY. 
          GUARANTEED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ERIC ENS 2 95 ROUTE 5 41. 
          PROPERTY TAX IS A SCAM. 
          DO YOU REALIZE A DUCK WOULD BUILD A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE BEFORE ANYONE COULD READ A LAW PERMITTING PROPERTY TAX? I WAS EMBARRASSED. 
          AREN'T YOU EMBARRASSED? YOU PAY A MYTHICAL TAX. 
          WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT OUR EDUCATION? WITH THAT SAID, OUR GUARANTEED CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, STRICTLY FORBID, ALL DIRECT TAXES AND SELF-EXECUTING LAW, MEANING WE DON'T NEED YOUR PERMISSION IMMEDIATELY. 
          ABOLISHES METFORD TOWNSHIP PROPERTY TAX FOREVER. 
          PROPERTY TAX IS ABOLISHED AND THAT'S THE LAW YOU SWORE AN OATH TO PROTECT END OF STORY, INCLUDING PROPERTY TAX. 
          IT IS MY ADMINISTRATION FOR ANY PUBLIC SERVANT TO PRACTICE LAW FOR CORPORATE PROFIT. 
          MEDFORD TOWNSHIP IS AN INANIMATE AND UNCONSCIOUS ENTITY UNABLE TO CONTRACT OR CLAIM INJURY. 
          IT'S TOTAL FRAUD. 
          IF YOU DISAGREE WITH YOUR OATH, PROVE IT BEFORE. 
          NEXT MEETING'S. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE CLEAR BEFORE NEXT MEETING'S. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          FIRST READ WHERE PUBLIC SERVANTS WERE GRANTED AUTHORITY TO PRACTICE LAW FOR CORPORATE PROFIT. 
          AND SECOND, READ THE LAW. 
          PERMITTING AN ANNUAL SLAVE TAX ON PROPERTY ONCE YOU FAIL, WHICH YOU WILL TOWN COUNCIL ADMITS REFUNDS ARE OWED AS REMEDY. 
          RIGHT? METRO TOWNSHIP CAN'T KEEP BILL GOTTEN GAINS. 
          DON'T YOU WANT YOUR MONEY BACK? I HOPE YOU DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE IN MEMPHIS ARE STUPID. 
          DO THE RIGHT THING AND EVIL CORPORATE EXTORTION AND REFUND OUR MONEY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANNA READ THE LAW FOR PROPERTY TAX RIGHT NOW? ANYBODY? YOU JUST SWORE AN OATH YOU SHOULD KNOW, RIGHT? HOW ABOUT YOU? LAW. 
          AGREE. 
          YOU WANNA READ IT? ? OKAY. 
          WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? I WAS READING IT FOR AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          FILE RYAN. 
          WE'RE NEW. 
          21 BANK STREET. 
          I JUST HAVE SOME TERRIBLE NEWS FOR EVERYONE. 
          UH, THEY LOST A MONTVALE CASE IT CAME OUT TODAY. 
          I'LL BE HONEST. 
          I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ANYTHING. 
          I'VE BEEN IN BAD RUSH THE DAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. WILSON, DID HE GIVE A REASON WHY IT WAS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE OKAY. 
          DID THEY GIVE A REASON WHY? I'M SURE THEY DID, BUT I'M NOT A LAWYER SO I WOULDN'T OKAY. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A SHORT VERSION. 
          YOU SURE? TRUST ME. 
          I KNOW. 
          UM, ZACH WILSON. 
          51 NORTH MAIN STREET. 
          I SECOND THAT. 
          NO MORE PROFIT TAXES, MAN. 
          , UH,  DO WE HAVE ALL IN FAVOR, ? UM, I, FIRST OF ALL, I WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS, UH, OF THE COUNCIL. 
          I MISSED LAST, UH, LAST SESSION, SO I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO PRAISE YOU BECAUSE THIS IS THE MOST INTERACTION BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE FIVE YEARS OF COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE DIVERSE VOICES, THE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION, THE, THE DISCUSSION AND THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          IT'S, IT'S REFRESHING. 
          UM, I LOVE IT. 
          I LOVE TO SEE IT. 
          I LOVE THE TOWN HALLS THAT YOU ANNOUNCED. 
          I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. 
          UM, I, UH, I'M A LITTLE BIT HESITANT ABOUT THE, I I'D RATHER SEE YOU KEEP THE FIVE MINUTES AND EXTEND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SO THAT YOU CAN GET A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE YES. 
          SPEAKING VERSUS MORE PEOPLE, MORE, MORE TIME FOR EACH PERSON, ESPECIALLY IN A TOWN HALL SETTING WHERE I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST GONNA BE SINGLE QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION. 
          AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA NEED 10 MINUTES TO GET THAT FROM EVERYBODY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WANT THE, AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          SO, SORRY. 
          NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          , GIVE ME ALL 50 AND IF WE HAVE 50, WE WILL PICK WEIRD RANDOMIZATION AND IF WE NEED TO, WE'LL GO BACK AND 
          [01:50:01]
INCLUDE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. 
          NO, I, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, I JUST THINK IT, IT MAY BE MORE VERSUS, UM, HOW OFTEN, HOW LONG PEOPLE HAVE, AND YOU CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE SPOT IF SOMEBODY NEEDS ADDITIONAL TIME FROM THERE. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, WHEN YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES, YOU FILL IT UP . 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          IF YOU GIMME 10 MINUTES, I'M GONNA SIT HERE AND I'M GONNA TALK. 
          I'LL DO 10. 
          SO PLEASE DO. 
          UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE STEPS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN AROUND RECONSIDERING THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND ALSO IN WORKING WITH TOWNSHIP ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A QUORUM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          I WILL NOTE THAT WHEN I TRIED TO PULL UP THE PLANNING BOARD AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ONLINE, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO SEE A WEEK OUT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          UM, WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS ARE, ARE ON THE AGENDA, IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE DITHERING ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THE PLANNING BOARD WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN SEE WHAT THE AGENDA TOPICS ARE GOING TO BE AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE DOES NEED TO BE A QUORUM BECAUSE NOTHING'S ON THE AGENDA. 
          UM, FINALLY, JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE HAS SO FAR . 
          UM, I, THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED ABOUT WHY WE DIDN'T DO THIS BEFORE, UH, WHY WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THE NUMBERS AND START COMING UP WITH PLANS BEFORE. 
          AND THAT IT IS VALID THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE NUMBER THAT WE NEEDED TO MEET BEFORE OCTOBER LAST YEAR. 
          HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE ALL KNEW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A NUMBER AND THAT THE NUMBER WAS NOT GOING TO BE ZERO. 
          AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE SEEN ACTION FROM PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION ON COMING UP WITH A PLAN FOR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS. 
          WE KNEW IT WASN'T GOING TO BE ZERO. 
          WE KNEW IT PROBABLY WASN'T GOING TO BE 500. 
          WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO START THAT PROCESS. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT TO SEE. 
          AND IN THAT SAME VEIN, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ROUND. 
          I THINK IT IS FOOLHARDY AND I THINK IT'S THAT SAME TYPE OF THINKING THAT GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY BY NOT CONSIDERING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 10 YEARS AND WHAT OUR NEXT ROUND IS GOING TO BE. 
          IT WILL HAPPEN. 
          NEW JERSEY'S POPULATION INCREASES EVERY YEAR, EVERY DECADE, EVERY WHATEVER , IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE. 
          WE WERE THE MOST POPULOUS, UH, THE MOST, UM, DENSELY POPULATED STATE WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP. 
          WE'RE VERY MUCH NEAR THE TOP STILL. 
          IT'S ONLY GOING TO INCREASE. 
          THE NEED FOR HOUSING IS ONLY GOING TO INCREASE. 
          AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WAYS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN OUR TOWNSHIP THAT DOESN'T LEAD TO THIS HIGH DENSITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, BARRING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND IS NOT THE ANSWER. 
          WE SHOULD COME UP WITH WHAT OUR FOURTH ROUND FINAL SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE. 
          AND THEN WHILE THAT IS BEING PLANNED OUT, CONTINUE TO WORK FOR WHAT FIFTH ROUND IS GOING TO BE. 
          WE MAY NOT KNOW THE NUMBER NOW. 
          WE KNOW IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ZERO. 
          AND I WOULD LOVE TO START SEEING SOON WHAT THE PLAN IS TO BE FOR, FOR THAT, THAT FIFTH ROUND. 
          UM, FINALLY JUST LAST NOTE. 
          UH, WATERFORD TOWNSHIP RECENTLY CONFERRED A PIECE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY TO A GROUP CALLED CONIFER. 
          THEY ARE COMPLETELY TAKING OVER THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          THEY WILL BE FULLY, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. 
          THEY WILL MAINTAIN IT, THEY WILL RENT IT OUT, THEY WILL ADMINISTER IT. 
          AND I FEEL, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE NUMBERS ON THIS, THAT THAT IS A BETTER SOLUTION THAN COMING UP WITH MASSIVE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UM, THE COST FOR THAT HAS GOT TO BE CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN THAN ADDING 800 TO A THOUSAND NEW UNITS TO MEDFORD. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          MUCH APPRECIATE IT ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK COMMENT YES. 
          TO ZACH'S, UM, ALSO IN ZACH IN PLANNING FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS AS WELL. 
          EVERYBODY JUST KEEP IN MIND, UH, KNOW WHAT YOUR CANDIDATES STAND BEHIND IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS AND WHEN OUR NEXT GOVERNOR ELECTION COMES OUT. 
          DEFINITELY. 
          I KNOW JACK TOO EARLY DEFINITELY WAS AGAINST THESE THINGS. 
          SO DEFINITELY JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND SO YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE VOTING IN. 
          AND IF, IF I MAY AS WELL. 
          UM, ZACH, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. 
          UM, THE FI I MAY NOT AGREE THAT LOWERING IT TO FIVE MINUTES IS APPROPRIATE FOR IT TOWN HALL, BUT IN THE UM, SIGNING UP FOR A TOWN HALL, WE MAY WANT TO ASK THAT PERSON HOW MANY MINUTES DO THEY NEED? AND NOT, NOT TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD, THEY WOULD GET PRI PRIORITY IN THAT, BUT IF THE FIRST 12 PEOPLE ONLY NEED FIVE MINUTES EACH, THEN WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA SELECT THE NEXT 12 PEOPLE THAT WANT FIVE MINUTES ALSO. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE FIFTH ROUND, AS WE'RE EXPLORING OPTIONS NOW FOR THE FOURTH ROUND, I AND I THINK THROUGH THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT WE'LL HAVE AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT'LL COME DURING BUDGET, THE BUDGET SEASON, UM, THE TOWN CAN ALWAYS LOOK TO FUND THESE ENTERPRISES PRIOR TO THE, THE OBLIGATION. 
          SO, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE HEARD FROM MR. RANDY THE, THE COMPOUNDED COST TO THESE HOUSES 
          [01:55:01]
AND WHAT IT DOES TO OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR ROADS AND OUR PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          SO THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          JUST ONE QUICK POINT. 
          YES SIR. 
          UP UNTIL THE FOURTH ROUND, YOU'VE GOT NO, THE TOWNSHIP GOT NO BONUS CREDITS FOR EXTENDING DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IT WASN'T UNTIL THE REGULATIONS CAME OUT UNDERSTOOD THAT WE AGAIN, THAT WE, THAT WE REALIZED THAT WAS AN OPTION. 
          SO YEAH. 
          AND I AS INDICATED EARLIER, WE DID EXPLORE THE A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE, UM, OPTION AND WE DID EXPLORE THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, BUT I FELT IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          WE'RE REVISITING THAT NOW. 
          YEP. 
          TO TRY TO FIND EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT'S SO YEAH. 
          WE'RE A LITTLE LATE MAYBE, BUT WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND UM, YEAH, FROM THE MO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT THE NEWS OF THE MONTVALE HEARING, NOT GOING TO OUR, UM, OUR HOPES AND, YOU KNOW, PLANNING FOR THE WORST, HOPING FOR THE BEST. 
          I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS ON THIS AGENDA EVEN TONIGHT WILL, UM, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR IT, RIGHT? WE'LL, BUT WE HAVE TO PREPARE US FOR THE WORST. 
          WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, PREPARE FOR THE WORK. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOOK FORWARD TO WHATEVER OPTIONS WE HAVE HERE FOR FOURTH AND FIFTH ROUNDS. 
          NEXT. 
          I DID HAVE MARRIOT H HAND UP FIRST AND JA, YOU'LL BE NEXT. 
          OH, YOU TOTALLY ROCK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT TIME I'LL MR. PRIME, I CAN SHARE IT WITH BETHANY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT, I JUST WONDER ONE QUESTION. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS BARRY ANN HOLLOWAY. 
          UM, I WANT TO, I JUST WANNA TAKE A MINUTE. 
          WHEN I STARTED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS BACK IN APRIL OF 2025 AND WHEN I CONTINUED TO TALK ABOUT THE DEEP RESTRICTIONS AND WHEN I BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION A LOT OF THE REGULATIONS, THINGS THAT WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE STARTED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          STARTED TO POINT OUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T QUITE RIGHT IN THIS TOWN. 
          UM, WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD A MEETING IN DECEMBER AND THINGS SHIFTED AND I COULDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SHIFT WAS AND IT SHIFTED FOR THE BETTER AS FAR AS I CAN SEE. 
          NOW. 
          I'M GONNA CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ON A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND I'M GONNA CONTINUE AND NOT GIVE UP. 
          WHAT I JUST HANDED YOU WAS WHAT I JUST DELIVERED TO FAIR SHARE, WHICH IS A FORMAL OBJECTION TO THE SITES THAT YOU'VE PICKED DUE TO THEIR UN SUITABILITY. 
          NOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALWAYS HIDE THE CHEESE IN MEFOR ON THE AFFORDABLE SAY WHAT? SORRY. 
          HIDE THE CHEESE. 
          IT'S LIKE I HAVE TO GO FIND EVERYTHING SO NOBODY CAN FIND IT. 
          NOBODY SEES IT AND IT'S GETTING REALLY TIRING. 
          UM, YOU POSTED ON YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAB WHAT LOOKS LIKE TO BE A PRE-DONE PREDETERMINED, UH, NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION FOR THE FARMS. THAT MEETING'S NOT TILL THE 28TH OF JANUARY, YET THIS WAS POSTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ALONG WITH EXHIBITS THAT WERE PREPARED. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEBODY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO DIRECTED THE TOWNSHIP PLANNER TO, UH, PREPARE PRELIMINARY REPORTS FOR THE NEEDED TO BE REDEVELOPMENT WITHOUT CONDEMNATION. 
          SORRY, I CAN'T SAY. 
          AND WHICH CONTAINS MAP SHOWING BOUNDARIES AND POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT AREAS AND THE LOCATION OF PROPERTIES INCLUDED THEREIN AND PROVIDES THE STATEMENT SETTING FORTH THE BASIS FOR THE INVESTIGATION. 
          SO WEEKS AGO YOU STARTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY REDEVELOPMENT WHEN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT NOW THAT THE JUDGE, AND BY THE WAY, I JUST READ THE JUDGE'S DECISION FOR THE FEDERAL, THE FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS THE LAWSUIT HAD NO BUSINESS BEING IN FEDERAL COURT AND HE HAD NO JURISDICTION OVER IT. 
          HE DIDN'T REALLY GIVE AN OPINION, BUT IT KIND OF LET THE AIR OUTTA MY BALLOON. 
          'CAUSE I WAS REALLY HOPING LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THAT THIS CONVERSATION WAS GONNA BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND I WASN'T GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS. 
          SO IN THE MEDIATION AGREEMENT THAT I BELIEVE MR. PRIME SIGNED WITH FAIR SHARE, THERE'S A FEBRUARY 1ST DEADLINE AND THAT FEBRUARY 1ST DEADLINE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH AN AGREEMENT WITH A BUILDER, A SIGNED AGREEMENT. 
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THE WORDING IS VERY, UM, CONCERNING THE LAW IS THAT THIS TOWNSHIP DOES NOT HAVE TO SIGN A LETTER WITH THE DEVELOPER. 
          ALL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS A DRAFT. 
          AND THAT'S YOUR FEBRUARY 1ST DEADLINE. 
          I THINK YOU'RE BEING ADVISED OTHERWISE AND IT'S NOT CORRECT. 
          I HAVE SAID FOR MONTHS THAT THIS TOWNSHIP NEEDS A SPECIAL COUNCIL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          IT WAS BEING STEERED IN A DIRECTION THAT WAS PURPOSEFUL AND INTENTIONAL. 
          AND THAT HAS STOPPED NOW, I THINK, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I'M HOPING THAT IT HAS STOPPED. 
          WHEN ONE PERSON SAYS THAT IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO EXTEND DEEDS AND THAT PERSON IS NOT THE COUNCIL, THAT PERSON IS A SOLICITOR MAKING A DETERMINATION ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. 
          SO I DO FEEL THAT THE COUNCIL MAY BE IN CONTROL NOW RATHER THAN SOMEBODY STEERING THE COUNCIL. 
          SO I ALSO HAVE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, THERE WAS, AND I'M HOPING YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE GRACE BECAUSE I GOTTA SAY SOMETHING. 
          I'VE BEEN SURROUNDED BY THE POLICE. 
          I HAVE BEEN HELD TO THE FIVE MINUTES WHILE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO TALK FOR EIGHT, 10 MINUTES. 
          I HAVE BEEN QUIETED LIKE NOBODY ELSE I'VE EVER SEEN. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          IF I MAY, I WANNA PAUSE YOUR TIME. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU BACK TO 30 SECONDS FOR THAT BRIEF EXPLANATION. 
          BUT BASED OFF THE RULES, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE EXTRA MINUTES. 
          SO A MINUTE, I KNOW THIS MIGHT TAKE TWO MINUTES. 
          UM, THERE WAS EMAIL SENT TO EVERY COUNCIL PERSON OBJECTING TO THE NEED REDEVELOPMENT. 
          THOSE EMAILS WERE RETURNED WITH A MESSAGE TO THE SENDERS SAYING THEY WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENTED IN PERSON AT COUNCIL. 
          DID YOU RECEIVE THE LETTERS? THEY WERE SENT TO OUR EVERY, EVERY SINGLE EMAIL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEY WERE RETURNED. 
          EVERY PERSON GOT A MESSAGE SAYING THEY WEREN'T BEING ACCEPTED, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT IN PERSON. 
          WHY IS THAT? THEY WERE STILL RECEIVED. 
          WHY WOULD THEY HAVE THAT MESSAGE SAYING THAT THEY HAD TO COME BEFORE YOU? DOESN'T SEEM FAIR. 
          WE WERE LOOKING AT THE LAND USE LAW AND IT SAYS THAT OBJECTIONS MUST BE MADE AT A PLANNING BOARD MEETING. 
          YES. 
          THEY CAN BE IN WRITING OR ORALLY. 
          IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT SUBMITTING OBJECTIONS. 
          THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF A PLANNING BOARD MEETING. 
          SO A PERSON, A MARYANNE MARYANNE, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR TIME. 
          I'M NOT GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M YOUR TIME. 
          SORRY. 
          WERE EMAIL. 
          WERE THE EMAILS ABOUT THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          THE EMAILS WERE OBJECTING TO THE DESIGNATION IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT WITH REASONS CITED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO EACH COUNCILMAN WOULD UNDERSTAND. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S A PLANNING BOARD MATTER. 
          AND THE LAND USE LAW, THE LAND USE LAW TAKES PRECEDENCE ON THAT. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENS IN, IN IN PLANNING BOARD HEARINGS IS YOU CAN'T SUBMIT A PETITION, YOU CAN'T SUBMIT AN EMAIL. 
          YOU HAVE TO COME IN PERSON BECAUSE YOU'RE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION AND YOU CAN'T CROSS EXAMINE AN EMAIL. 
          SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE THEY WERE RECEIVED, THEY RECEIVED MAY A RESIDENT RECEIVED COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR, UH, COUNCIL PEOPLE AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES THAT THEY VOTED FOR WITH THEIR FEELINGS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T COMMENT ON THE PLANNING BOARD HEARING. 
          THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE OBJECTING TO NEED TO BE DEVELOPMENT. 
          WELL, ALL OBJECTIONS TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          THAT'S THAT'S PLANNING BOARD DOING. 
          WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS. 
          ALL I AM SAYING IS THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING IGNORED AGAIN. 
          SO I'M SURE THAT YOU GOT THEM. 
          SO I I'M GONNA MOVE ON THE FEBRUARY 1ST LETTER. 
          I HAVE SAT HERE IN MEETINGS WHERE IT SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO SIGN A LETTER WITH A DEVELOPER. 
          YOU DON'T, IT WILL SINK THE TOWN. 
          ALSO, I WANNA ABSOLUTELY SAY THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DESIGNATE THESE PROPERTIES OF NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE IS AN INCLUSIONARY ZONING THAT ALLOWS THE SAME PROTECTIONS, ALLOWS THE SAME IMMUNITY. 
          YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN ADVICE OPPOSITE OF THAT. 
          SO I'M, I'M ASKING RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO, THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOLD OUT AND THERE IS TIME TO ADJUST. 
          SO, UM, I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I FOLLOW UP WITH FAIR SHARE. 
          THERE'S A, A LITTLE, UM, WITH THE SUITABILITY ON THE SITES, THE REASON WHY I HANDED A PACKET TO EVERY PERSON WAS NOT A PLANNING BOARD. 
          IT'S SO YOU COULD KNOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF WHAT IS SITTING ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND WHAT EXACTLY IT IS ON AN ENGINEERING LEVEL WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION 
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ON PUBLIC WEBSITES THAT ARE VERY EASY. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THEY GOT DESIGNATED. 
          THAT'S THE MAYOR. 
          SO I'M DONE READ YOU THE EXTRA TIME. 
          I THANK YOU, BUT I STRONGLY, STRONGLY OBJECTED. 
          WE NEED TO REDEVELOPMENT. 
          MAYOR, CAN I JUST THANK YOU. 
          ASK ONE QUESTION. 
          WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FEBRUARY ONE DEADLINE? I HAVE NOT ADVISED IN THE MEDIATION AGREEMENT THAT YOU SIGNED YES. 
          WITH THE COURT AND FAIR SHARE. 
          YES. 
          THERE'S A FEBRUARY 1ST DEADLINE IN THERE FOR A, A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT IT, I HANDED IT. 
          I, I, I SHARED IT. 
          IT'S THERE. 
          GO AHEAD, MAYOR. 
          I, I, I'LL LOOK FOR IT. 
          AM I CORRECT? I'LL LOOK FOR IT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, AND YOU SPECIFICALLY, EVERY EMAIL WAS RECEIVED, I DID RECEIVE THESE EMAILS, AND BASED ON THE PROCEDURAL NATURE OF THE OBJECTION, MR. HORAL, I BELIEVE, MADE THE PROPER ADVISE HIS STAFF TO MAKE THE PROPER REPLY THAT THESE DO NEED TO BE MADE TO THE PLANNING BOARD IN A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THESE, THESE ARE, THESE ARE LAND USE LAWS THAT WHILE WE CAN HEAR THE OBJECTION AS RESIDENTS, AS COUNSEL, WE APPRECIATE THE OBJECTIONS AND WE, AND WE RECEIVE THEM PROCEDURALLY, TO HAVE THEM CODIFIED INTO THE RECORD, THEY NEED TO BE MADE AT THE PLA FOR THE, IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          J AND, AND, AND MARY, I, I'M NOT GONNA DEBATE. 
          YEP. 
          I'M NOT GONNA DEBATE IT. 
          I THINK PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU AND WE, THEY'VE BEEN HEARD. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, THE, THE REPLY EMAIL WAS NOT TO DISCOURAGE THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT WAS TO STATE THAT THOSE OBJECTIONS ARE REALLY TO BE MADE TO THE PLANNING BOARD IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, AS MR. PRIME ALLUDED TO. 
          SO THERE COULD BE CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          THERE'S A, UM, AND I'M GONNA STEP DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          GO. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE AUDIT FOR THE, THE AUDIT FOR THE UNITS. 
          AND I, I THINK I SPOKE TO YOU TODAY ON FACEBOOK, AND I WAS TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL. 
          I'M, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER. 
          I'M DID NOT GO ON FA I DID NOTHING TODAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I WENT TO WORK AND I WENT, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER, AND I'M HERE THAT THOSE NUMBERS GET AUDITED. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE OF WHAT THE JUDGE JUST DID. 
          UM, AND I WILL DISCUSS INCLUSIONARY ZONING WHEN WE GET TO THE RESOLUTION. 
          I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TIME. 
          UH, CAN SOMEBODY TURN THE HEAT OFF? THANK YOU. 
          IT'S GETTING HOT UP HERE, BUT, UM, YEAH, I'M FREEZING. 
          FREEZING. 
          I'M ABSOLUTELY FREEZING. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO CONTROLS. 
          UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR? GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          YEP. 
          CITIZEN, UH, COUNTY . 
          I JUST WANT SAY THANKS TO MEGAN FOR LETTING US KNOW, AND THANKS. 
          UH, THE MATTER FOR RESIDENT THAT COMING TO ME AND SAID, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO NURSES RECORDED ATTE QUALITY. 
          IT TOOK US TWO DAYS, AND I, AND I SPREAD ALL OVER IT. 
          I'M JUST, YOU RECORD WHAT'S GOING ON AND HAVE, TAKE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          QUESTION IS, UH, RESOLUTION, UH, 25 AND 28. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME TONIGHT'S RESOLUTIONS? 25 AND 28, SIR? YEAH. 
          AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR, EXCUSE ME, UH, EXPLANATION. 
          AN EXPLANATION. 
          MR. HORNICK WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE EXPLANATIONS AT THE TIME OF RE CONSENT AND AGENDA RESOLUTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE TWO MORE, UH, QUESTIONS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          HOW WELL I FIGURE OUT IF A NEW RESIDENT THAT CAME TO MILFORD IS A WORLD WAR II DESCEND, HOW CAN I FIGURE OUT TO GREET HIM? YOU'RE ASKING HOW WOULD YOU INTERACT WITH THE RESIDENT THAT HAS, THAT'S VETERAN, THAT'S A WORLD WAR II DESCENDANT THAT MOVED TO BEDFORD. 
          UM, HOW I CANNOT FIGURE OUT, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DIVULGE PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT RESIDENTS, BUT IF YOU'D LOOK, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HELP THE VETERANS, UM, I KNOW THE VFW ON CHURCH ROAD IS A PHENOMENAL FACILITY, AND THEY, THEY DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK FOR OUR VETERANS. 
          DUDE, WE'D BE THE SECOND PERSON I MET. 
          I MET ONE ALREADY. 
          I WORKED WITH YOU SUNDAY. 
          IT, AND I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND, UH, MY HIGH, I'M SO SORRY. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO TAKE YOUR TIME, SIR. 
          NO, I SAID I MET TWO TO SUNDAY WORLD WAR II OF MY LIFETIME. 
          YEAH. 
          AND METFORD WOULD BE THE SECOND ONE. 
          ONE I'M MEETING HIM. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR HIS, UH, WORKING. 
          SECOND IS WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THE SEW SYSTEM OF METFORD? 
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UM, SURE. 
          THE, THE PLAINTIFF'S CURRENT RATE OF CAPACITY IS 1.75 MILLION GALLONS PER 1.75 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          HUH. 
          1.75 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          IF THIS ORDER HAS, IS BEING FILLED, COULD THAT HUNDRED OR WOULD GO A HUNDRED PERCENT? THERE'S CURRENT CAPACITY AVAILABLE. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GIVE IT AN EXACT PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THE, THE STATE LOOKS AT CAPACITY ASSURANCE ON A 12 MONTH ROLLING AVERAGE. 
          BUT I BELIEVE THE CURRENT AVERAGE PASSES AROUND 1.1 MILLION GALLON. 
          AND MY LAST PART IS, CAN YOU TAKE A PRECAUTION FOR THIS INCOMING WEATHER FOR THE O TO SAVE BEST OFFORD? UH, HE'S GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A CONTINGENCY TO CHECK ON THE TON. 
          KNOW IT'S A BAD WEATHER COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, WHICH TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BE CHECKED ON, LIKE SENIOR CITIZEN OF MEFFORD D BE CHECKED ON. 
          THAT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY OFFICE ON AGING DOES. 
          YEP. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE REGISTRY. 
          THE COUNTY OFFICE ON AGING MAY CAN'T. 
          THE COUNTY WILL HANDLE THAT, SIR. 
          AND, UH, I RECORD A LIVE THREE AND A 4K. 
          HE SHOULD BE UPLOADED BY TONIGHT. 
          AND THANK EVERYONE. 
          AND THANK YOU, UH, MARYANNE AGAIN, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I APOLOGIZE TO MS. SINGH. 
          I ASSUME SO. 
          SORRY THAT I SKIPPED OVER YOU. 
          YOU MAY HAVE, THAT'S FINE. 
          YOUR TIME THERE. 
          SINGH 5, 5, 9 MCMAN ROAD, METFORD, NEW JERSEY. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, RESONATE WITH ZACH'S SENTIMENT. 
          I LIKE THE WHOLE INTERACTING, ANSWERING, TALKING, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY COLD, BUT THE ROOM FEELS WARM JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          I THINK I COULD SIT HERE FOR THIS LONG. 
          NOW, THE FIRST GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, APPOINTMENTS TO PLANNING BOARD, BUT DIFFERENT BOARDS. 
          CAN WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT MORE SERIOUSLY AND MAKE SURE WE GIVE NEW PEOPLE A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT HIM CRYING ALL NIGHT AND SITTING BY THE PHONE, , . 
          BUT I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ONE, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME BACKGROUND IN THAT AREA. 
          AND YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP THE SAME PEOPLE. 
          LOOK, I HAVE NOTHING PERSONALLY AGAINST CHUCK WATSON, BUT HE'S BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. 
          NOW IT'S TIME FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GET A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, BE OF SERVICE TO THE TOWN. 
          SO PLEASE DO CONSIDER THAT. 
          LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER APPLICATIONS. 
          LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, ASKING YOU FOR. 
          AND GOOD NEWS IS YOU, YOU ARE ACTUALLY TALKING TO THEM. 
          I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IN LONG TIME IN THIS COUNCIL. 
          AND ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE WORD, IT'S HOUSING. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING SOMEONE A PLACE, A SHELTER, A PLACE TO LIVE. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING GOOD THAT HAS TURNED INTO THIS MONSTER. 
          NOW, YOU, MARIAN HAS PUT SO MUCH WORK INTO IT. 
          I THINK WE SERIOUSLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE CONCERN. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS NO MOTIVE THESE RESIDENTS HAVE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE TOWN, OR THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SLOWED DOWN FOR NOW. 
          I KNOW WE CAN'T HOLD ONTO IT FOREVER, BUT WE NEED TO HEAR THEM OUT A LITTLE MORE. 
          SO I THINK TOWN HALL WOULD BE GREAT TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          MAYBE THE BUILDER COMES IN, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO, SOME PEOPLE FROM THE COUNCIL SHOW UP AND WE DISCUSS THAT. 
          WE LET THE RESIDENTS PUT THEIR QUESTIONS ACROSS AND WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, KIND OF GIVE THEM A FAIR DEAL HERE WHERE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, DIRECT INTERACTION. 
          AND I KNOW YOU, ALL OF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUR WAY WHERE IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY. 
          YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT YOU KNOW, AT LEAST YOU CAN TRY TO BE FAIR. 
          I, AND THANK YOU, REALLY. 
          I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THIS CONTINUES, WE COULD DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE TOWN. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TODAY. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED. 
          I'M GONNA SAY THE FIRST TIME ON THE, UH, THE, THE DAY OF THE REORG, WE HEARD EVERYBODY. 
          AND AT THE END OF IT, WE DID EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO. 
          SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, YOU, I I THINK YOU ARE KIND OF RETRACING YOUR STEPS. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. 
          AND WE'RE ALL HERE, OUR EYES ARE ON YOU. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME 
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IS. 
          BUT I HOPE IT'S WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS, IT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS, IT'S BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, KIM. 
          YOU, UM, I DID SEE THIS YOUNG LADY'S HAND GO FIRST, SO I, I'M GONNA GET TO HER FIRST. 
          BUT AGAIN, MS. SING, I APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING OVER YOU. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          UM, AND, UM, YOUR COMMENTS RELATED TO THE PLANNING BOARD APPLICATIONS? I THINK WE'LL HAVE A, A VERY, WE'LL, WE'LL EACH HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF OUR OWN TO MAKE OF THE APPLICANTS THAT PUT IN BY THE END OF DAY FRIDAY. 
          UM, FOR ME PERSONALLY, MY DECISIONS WILL BE B, BE BASED OFF EXPERIENCE. 
          I, I FEEL AS THOUGH THE PLANNING BOARD IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL BOARD. 
          UM, I SERVED ON THE PLANNING BOARD LAST YEAR. 
          I SERVED ON COUNCIL FOR TWO YEARS. 
          THE PLANNING BOARD WAS HARDER, AND THERE WAS ONLY FIVE MEETINGS AND THERE WAS HOW MANY HERE? I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO IT'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL BOARD. 
          UM, WE DO NEED PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE TOWN, KNOW, HAVE EXPERIENCE, UNDERSTAND THESE MATTERS DEEPLY. 
          AND AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, THEY COULD TEACH ME TO BE THE MAYOR. 
          THEY COULD TEACH ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING. 
          BUT, UM, YOU HAVE TO REALLY PUT IN THE TIME IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THE PLANNING BOARD, AS MUCH TIME AS WE PUT IN UP KNOW COUNCIL, IT'S EXTRAORDINARY WHEN THERE'S ONE APPLICATION, UM, FOR INSTANCE, IT WAS THE PSE AND G SUBSTATION ON ROUTE 70. 
          THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT, THAT, AND THE PREP NEEDED FOR THAT, AND THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROFESSIONALS AND THE, THE INTERACTIONS THERE JUST TO APPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE WAS TREMENDOUS. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE APPLICATION FOR ONE MEETING. 
          SO THIS IS NOT A BOARD THAT I FEEL IS, UM, IT'S NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL EXPERIENCE IN THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, NOT THAT ALL, ALL OUR BOARDS SERVE IMPORTANT PURPOSES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE RECORD. 
          IF YOU'RE APPLYING FOR THIS BOARD, IT'S BASICALLY A PART-TIME JOB, BUT THAT YOU DON'T GET PAID FOR IT . 
          SO, UM, JUST I WANTED TO THROW THAT THERE. 
          BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE ABOUT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR NUMBER IN LINE THERE. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE YOUNG LADY IN THE BACK FIRST. 
          UM, THAT'S YOU. 
          YEP. 
          AND THEN I, YOU HAD DID HAVE YOUR HAND UP. 
          I THINK YOU, SHE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING. 
          JESSICA ZEKI FIVE BUTLER COURT. 
          UM, I AM ONE OF THE ONES THAT EMAILED YOU ALSO. 
          SO I AM HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU MY EMAIL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CRIME. 
          I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          REGARDING THE FAIR SHARE HOUSING STATEMENT THAT YOU SIGNED. 
          IT DOES SAY ON FEBRUARY 1ST, A DRAFT IS REQUIRED FOR A SITE SUITABILITY ANALYSIS, PHASING SCHEDULE, BEDROOM DISTRIBUTION, REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THE STATE SUITABILITY ANALYSIS, IS THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER PREPARING THAT, OR IS OUR PROFESSIONALS PREPARING THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING PREPARED BY THE DEVELOPER? SO THE DEVELOPER IS SAYING WHETHER THE STATE'S SUITABLE. 
          THEY ARE ARGUING WHY THEY'RE SUIT STUDYING SUITABLE. 
          THAT'S WHY. 
          JUST I WANNA CLARIFY. 
          SURE. 
          THE MARCH 15 DEADLINE, UH, EXISTS FAIR SHARE ASKED FOR DRAFT DOCUMENTS TO BE SUBMITTED BY FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          SO THEY HAD A CHANCE TO START LOOKING IN THE, AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET THE FEBRUARY ONE DEADLINE. 
          AND I'M GONNA GIVE AN EXTENSION BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, A DESIGNATION OR THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN YET. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. 
          EITHER THAT OR THE ZONING ORDER. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT. 
          FEBRUARY ONE DEADLINE, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MARYANNE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S DRAFT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE WHAT THE DEVELOPER SUBMITS ON WHAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT BOTTOM BEHALF OF DEVELOPER BY MARCH 15. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET THE FEBRUARY WEDNESDAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          REGARDING SITE SUITABILITY, I'M SURE ALL OF US AS PROFESSIONALS WOULD AGREE THAT FLOOD HAZARD AREA IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINT. 
          CORRECT? I'M SURE THE ENGINEERS ARE IN THIS ROOM FOR YOU. 
          IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINT. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO, I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND TO, SAY, SPECIFIC PIPELINE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I'LL JUST STATE, MAKE YOUR, MAKE YOUR STATEMENT. 
          WETLANDS, ENVIRONMENTAL, FLOOD, HAZARD AREAS, REPAIRING ZONES, ALL OF THOSE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE GOING TO LIMIT YOUR DEVELOPABLE SPACE IN YOUR DRAFT REDEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION ALREADY. 
          NOWHERE IN YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS DOES THE REPORT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FLOOD HAZARD AREA. 
          ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES DO HAVE REGULATED WATERWAYS, AS THEY CALL THEM ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THEY DRAIN MORE THAN 50 ACRES. 
          THEY WILL ALL HAVE FLOOD HAZARD AREAS. 
          THEY WILL ALL HAVE REPAIRING BUFFERS. 
          YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLAN, THE OVERALL CONSTRAINT MAP SHOWS A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY OF THESE. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT 
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NOW SHRINKS? OKAY, WE SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE 2 87 ON PARKVIEW 48 AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          WE NOW HAVE THESE FLOOD HAZARD CONSTRAINTS. 
          YOU CAN ONLY BUILD A HUNDRED UNITS, 20% AFFORDABLE. 
          WHERE ARE WE GETTING OUR OTHER 28? HAVE WE REALLY LOOKED AT THESE SITES? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUITABLE FOR THE CONCEPT PLANS YOU HAVE IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET. 
          SO I THINK YOU REALLY DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS FROM A HIGH TECH ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE BEFORE YOU CAN SAY THAT, LET'S SHOVE DOWN THESE 700 HOMES, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA END UP LOOKING FOR A FOURTH SITE. 
          SO BEFORE YOU DESIGNATE AN AREA YOU NEED A REDEVELOPMENT AND YOU GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE THERE ARE CONSTRAINTS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY TONIGHT. 
          UM, I GAVE YOU MY OBJECTION AND I'M SURE I'LL SEE YOU ON THE 28TH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE STUDIES THAT WE ARE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO FAIR SHARE. 
          AND AS I SAID ALL ALONG, NONE OF THIS IS APPROVED UNTIL THE PLANNING BOARD REVIEWS THE ACTUAL PLANS WITH ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, WETLANDS, FLOOD, HAZARD AREA DESIGNATION, UM, THREATENED ENDANGERED SPECIES, UH, ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY. 
          ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE THERE'S ACTUALLY AN APPROVAL OF ANY PLAN. 
          WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS CONCEPT PLANS. 
          AND THE NUMBERS ALL WORK WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN. 
          WILL THEY HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED BEFORE THEY GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD? FOR SURE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION. 
          WE HAVE ALL THE WETLANDS ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE ONE SITE, AND THEY ALL HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          THESE ARE CONCEPT LANDS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE BY MARCH 15TH. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY MARCH 15TH. 
          WE HAVE A FULL YEAR TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT OF ACTUALLY REVIEWING THE PLANS THEMSELVES AND ESTABLISHING ALL THESE, UH, CONSTRAINTS AND, AND, UH, LAYOUT QUESTIONS. 
          SO MR. PRIME AND I, AND I'M SO SORRY, MA'AM. 
          JESSICA, JUST JESSICA, YES. 
          THE POINTS THAT SHE BROUGHT UP, WHERE IF THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS ON THE SITE, SURE. 
          THAT LIMIT WHERE THE PROPERTIES WHERE THE PARCELS CAN BE BILLED. 
          YES. 
          THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND NUMBERS AND SITE PLANS WILL BE ADJUSTED. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING TODAY. 
          JUST SO, SO I UNDERSTAND IT WITH A CONCEPT OVERLAY OF A PARCEL. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND THE SITE SUITABILITY ANALYSIS IS NOT CAN YOU BUILD THE EXACT NUMBER OF UNITS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN AND EXACTLY THAT LAYOUT. 
          THE SITE SUITABILITY. 
          AND THERE'S FOUR CRITERIA, WHICH I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT, CONSTANTLY ALL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN IN A GENERIC PLAN. 
          UH, THE SITE SPECIFIC PLANS ALL HAVE TO, IT'S GONNA TAKE A YEAR FOR THESE TO COME TO FRUITION. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS FOR THESE TO EVEN APPROACH CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO WE ALL HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          THE MARCH 15 DEADLINES A PLAN DEADLINE. 
          MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          I DID HAVE MS. P*****K, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? I DID HAVE YOU NEXT IN LINE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN SIR. 
          HI EVERYONE. 
          KIM P*****K, 2 64 CHURCH ROAD, MEDFORD. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP ANOTHER POINT. 
          UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING, COUNSEL, UH, MADE A COMMENT ABOUT THE CORPORATIONS REGARDING THE DEED RESTRICTED UNIT UNITS THAT ARE OWNED BY CORPORATIONS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW POINTS, BUT WITH REGARD TO THE ADDITIONAL 92 UNITS HELD BY THREE CORPORATIONS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY 92 TIMES FIVE COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 460 LESS HOMES THAT WOULD BE NEED NEEDED TO BE CONSTRUCTED, MR. PRIME SUGGESTED THAT THE CORPORATE PRINCIPLES WOULD LIKELY NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THE TOWNSHIP DUE TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL AT FAIR MARKET VALUE, WHICH IS A VALID POINT. 
          BUT THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE TO THE COIN, AND OF COURSE I'M BRINGING IT TO YOU , UM, POTENTIAL TAX BENEFITS. 
          SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO SHY AWAY FROM SPEAKING WITH THE CORPORATIONS THINKING, OH, IT'S A DONE DEAL. 
          THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA GO BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE ALL THIS MONEY, POTENTIAL TAX BENEFITS, OR IT COULD BE PART OF A CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY STRATEGY. 
          THIS ALTERNATIVE MIGHT OFFER A QUICKER AND SIMPLER TRANSACTION THAN SELLING TO INDIVIDUAL BUYERS. 
          IT MIGHT BE A WAY TO BUILD GOODWILL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH, AND IMPACT THEIR PUBLIC IMAGE. 
          ALSO, AVOIDING POTENTIAL LEGAL OR REGULATORY ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE FROM THE EXPIRING RESTRICTIONS COULD ALSO BE A STRATEGY. 
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SOMETIMES IT ALIGNS WITH LONG-TERM PLANNING AND DIVESTMENT STRATEGIES. 
          SO WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE ASK. 
          AND WITH SO MUCH AT STAKE AND THE POSSIBILITY OF DEFRAYING OUR MANDATE BY AN ADDITIONAL 92 UNITS, WHICH WOULD BE 460 LESS HOMES, IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH ASKING. 
          CERTAINLY 65 LETTERS ARE GOING OUT. 
          THREE MORE LETTERS TO THREE CORPORATIONS HOLDING THE 92 ADDITIONAL DEEDS ARE ABSOLUTELY WORTH EVERY PENNY OF THE POSTAGE. 
          I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THAT THE THREE CORPORATE ENTITIES HOLDING THE 92 ADDITIONAL DEED RESTRICTED UNITS BE CONTACTED. 
          65 TIMES FIVE IS 3 25. 
          THAT'S WHERE OUR GOAL NOW, 92 TIMES FIVE IS FOUR 60. 
          FOUR 60 PLUS 3 25 IS 785 LESS UNITS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL. 
          TOM SPOKE ABOUT THE MATH. 
          IT'S TOTALLY DOABLE. 
          IT'S A BARGAIN COMPARED TO UPWARDS OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOWN THE ROAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT. 
          TWO AND A HALF MINUTES. 
          OH, GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ? UM, I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT COUNCIL APPROVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          I JUST THINK IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR JUST A FEW PEOPLE PART-TIME. 
          NO OFFENSE, I'M NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL, BUT THIS IS A LOT OF WORK. 
          AND, AND, AND A SUBCOMMITTEE COULD BRING A LOT OF INFORMATION, WHICH WE ALL HAVE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, AS RESIDENTS AND COMMITTEE, UM, THAT IS REALLY USEFUL TO YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS TO GUIDE THIS THING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THE WRONG THING AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE BUILDER'S REMEDY. 
          UM, BUT WE WANNA DEFRAY AS MUCH OF THESE IMPACTS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          SO I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT AND THEN FIND OUT HOW, HOW DO I GO ABOUT SUGGESTING THAT? DO I HAVE TO DO IT FORMALLY IN WRITING OR IS THIS ENOUGH OR, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T WANNA TAKE YOUR TIME. 
          IF YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY. 
          NO, I'M GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, AS WE DID FOR VILLAGE SUBCOMMITTEE AND TAUNT ROAD SUBCOMMITTEE, THERE WOULD'VE TO BE A CHARTER DRAFTED. 
          THERE'S A TEMPLATE FOR THAT IN WHICH WE DISCUSSED THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS, THE PROJECTED MEETINGS, THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH THAT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE SHOULD CONVENE. 
          AND THEN, UH, WHAT CONCLUSIONS FROM A RECOMMENDATION STANDPOINT WE WOULD LOOK TO HAVE FROM THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          UM, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF VARIATIONS OF, OF MEMBERS OF THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          IT COULD BE RESIDENTS, IT COULD BE COUNCIL PEOPLE, PROFESSIONALS. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I, I BELIEVE THE TAUNTON SUBCOMMITTEE, NO, EXCUSE ME, I'LL GO TO THE VILLAGE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS MORE DIVERSE. 
          UM, IT HAD THREE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE VILLAGE, THREE RESIDENTS IN THE VILLAGE. 
          IT HAD TWO COUNCIL PEOPLE, COUNCIL WOMAN MILK, AND MYSELF. 
          AND IT HAD PROFESSIONAL DESIGNEES, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE POLICE AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS AT TIMES WOULD INTERACT WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE COMING OUT OF THAT. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE KIND OF LIKE A, WHAT'S OUR GOAL HERE? MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH, THROUGH A CHARTER. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS COUNSEL CAN DISCUSS, UM, OFFLINE AND ABOUT THE VIABILITY OF THAT. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. 
          THANK. 
          CAN I STILL 30 SECONDS OF YOUR TIME TOO, KIM? OH, SURE. 
          I WANNA PUBLICLY ASSURE YOU THAT THE 65 PRIVATE DEEDS, THE 90, UH, CORPORATE HEALTH DEEDS, WE'RE GONNA REACH OUT TO THEM. 
          AWESOME. 
          EVERY, I DON'T CARE IF WE GET ONE, ONE IS FIVE LESS HOUSES. 
          I KNOW. 
          SO YOU HAVE MY WORD. 
          WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THEM. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANKS GUYS. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. 
          YOU WERE NEXT. 
          HI, UH, MATT HERON, EIGHT WELLINGTON COURT. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR A WHILE NOW, AND I WANNA LEND MY VOICE TO THE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS THAT IT'S BEEN VERY REFRESHING TO SEE HOW MUCH MORE INTERACTION IN DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS I'VE SEEN ON THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, HOWEVER, SINCE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, THIS IS NOW THE SECOND TIME THAT A COUNCIL PERSON HAS CHATTED THE CITY FOR NOT VOTING IN JACK CIARELLI. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT INAPPROPRIATE. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINIONS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE ON THE COUNCIL, YOU REPRESENT ALL OF MEDFORD, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED THE WAY THAT YOU THINK. 
          SO I THINK THAT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR TOWN COUNCIL PEOPLE TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT 
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WHAT THEY THINK THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE VOTED WHILE THEY ARE SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST TO REITERATE, ALL I DID WAS SAY, DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU VOTE IN YOUR CANDIDATE. 
          THAT'S ALL I SAID. 
          AND WHAT JACK REPRESENTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          UH, I'M NOT MARION MARION. 
          NO, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK. 
          I JUST, IF YOU DO, I'D LIKE, IF YOU NEED A PROFESSIONAL, I WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER MY TIME. 
          I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND WHEN WE PUT OUT, IF WE WERE TO PUT OUT A CHARTER, YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE CHARTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO AHEAD, SIR. 
          DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? I'M SORRY. 
          CAN YOU, SHE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          ACTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I SHOULD BE QUICK. 
          UM, KENYATA JONES 14 BENNINGTON DRIVE. 
          UM, I HAVE TO GIVE A DISCLAIMER, AS I ALWAYS DO WHEN I'M HERE, THAT I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. 
          I'M NOT HERE, UM, IN THAT CAPACITY, BUT I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT, A TAXPAYER AND A PARENT OF CHILDREN IN THE DISTRICT. 
          UM, IT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT, UM, IN SOME WAYS I'VE BEEN, SOMEONE HAS TRIED TO DISCOURAGE ME FROM SPEAKING HERE, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I KNOW THE LINES BETWEEN BEING A BOARD MEMBER AND BEING A CITIZEN WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. 
          WHO CARES ABOUT THIS TOWN AND THE FUTURE AND THE DIRECTION IT'S GOING IN. 
          UM, ONE, I'VE GOT THAT ASIDE AND WANNA SAY THAT I AM TOO VERY REFRESHED BY TONIGHT. 
          BEST MEETING I'VE BEEN TO. 
          IT'S FELT GOOD. 
          UM, EVEN THE DISCUSSIONS GOING BACK AND FORTH, THE IDEAS, JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THINGS DIFFERENT. 
          WE MAY NOT ALL AGREE, BUT I, I LOVE WHAT I'M SEEING. 
          THAT'S ONE. 
          TWO, UM, I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SLIP OF THE TONGUE, BUT ABOUT SEVEN, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, SEVEN MEMBERS PLUS TWO ALTERNATES. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT IT IS. 
          NINE MEMBERS WITH TWO ALTERNATES, RIGHT? NINE, NINE, AND TWO. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, AND TWO, UM, THE, I KNOW IT SEEMS DIFFICULT TO DO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT IF THIS REALLY IS A LONG-TERM, UM, THING THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, AND US AS CITIZENS WOULD LOVE TO BE HELPFUL AND BE A PART OF IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UH, KEVIN KINNEY, UH, 23 EVERGREEN TRAIL. 
          UH, I'VE LIVED IN MEDFORD ALL MY LIFE. 
          UH, MY PARENTS, UH, BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE HERE, UH, 30 YEARS AGO. 
          UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN THAT THE MEDIAN AGE OF THE US HOME BUYER IS 59 YEARS OLD. 
          20 YEARS AGO IT WAS 39 YEARS OLD. 
          I LOVE MEDFORD. 
          THAT'S WHY I CAME BACK AFTER I SERVED IN THE NAVY. 
          IT'S ALSO HARD TO, UH, FIND A PLACE FOR RENT ANYWHERE AROUND HERE. 
          UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE TOWN IS DEEPLY IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENCE. 
          IT IS TO ME AS WELL. 
          UH, I LOVE TO PRESERVE, UH, THE NATURE THAT WE ALL ENJOY AND DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH. 
          ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. 
          AND HIGH DENSITY HOUSING OFTEN SOUNDS SCARY. 
          UH, I HAVE NO DESIRE TO TURN MEDFORD INTO MANHATTAN. 
          UH, BUT IT IS A SIMPLE FACT THAT WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN DENSITY AND ONLY ZONING FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON LARGE POTS, IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO MAINTAIN THE ENVIRONMENTAL BEAUTY OF THE TOWN AND THE CHARACTER OF ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN IT. 
          I HOPE THAT I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE ROBUST CONVERSATION THAT HAS, UH, BEEN ABSENT AT, UH, PREVIOUS MEETINGS. 
          UM, YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          MAY OR MAY I SURE, SIR. 
          I WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD PROBABLY JUST SPEAK FOR MYSELF. 
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I AM NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT ALL. 
          AND IF IT CAME ACROSS THAT WAY, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO 100% APOLOGIZE. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN IT. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY HAS A NEED WITHOUT IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'D BE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY MOM BRINGING THREE KIDS UP WHEN MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER LEFT US WOULD BE. 
          WE DEFINITELY NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UM, TO CLARIFY FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOUR POINT IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          WE NEED 29 YEAR OLDS AND 39 YEAR OLDS TO COME BACK INTO MEDFORD. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR SOME IS TO HAVE THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          WHAT WE REALLY WANNA STOP IS THE HIGH DENSITY PORTION. 
          ALL THOSE EXTRA HOUSES THAT HAVE TO BE BUILT FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSES TO BE BUILT. 
          UM, THOSE NUMBERS ARE HUGE. 
          IF WE HAVE TO HAVE BUILDERS DO IT, THEY HAVE TO BUILD FOR EVERY AFFORDABLE HOUSE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA BUILD FOUR OTHER HOUSES AT A MARKET RATE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE FIVE HOUSES EVERY SINGLE TIME. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE CRUNCH COMPLETELY COMES ON OUR SCHOOLS, ON OUR ROADS, ON OUR POLICE FORCE, ON EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          SO FOR AT LEAST THIS PERSON ON THE COUNCIL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT FOR HIGH DENSITY, AND NOT REALLY FOR BEING SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS THE WAY IT IS TO SOME DEGREE. 
          UM, SO I JUST REALLY WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU. 
          'CAUSE IT IS RIDICULOUS. 
          THE CURRENT AGE IS 59. 
          THAT'S CRAZY. 
          I HAVE CHILDREN IN THEIR TWENTIES. 
          THEY ALL WANNA BUY A HOUSE. 
          THEY ALL WANNA COME BACK HERE AND THEY CANNOT RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND MR. KING, OBVIOUSLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME BACK TO MEDFORD. 
          I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I SAY, I SAY TO OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO LIVE HERE. 
          WE WANT TO LIVE HERE. 
          SO FOR YOU TO ASPIRE TO COME BACK AND LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, SIR. 
          UM, THERE IS A BIG DISCREPANCY HERE BETWEEN WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT WHILE MAINTAINING THE CHARM. 
          YOU BROUGHT UP ONE HOUSE TO EVERY FOUR ACRES. 
          THAT WAS HOW MEDFORD WAS DEVELOPED. 
          UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, IN THESE INSTANCES, WE HAVE TO USE DENSITY TO PROVIDE THE HOUSING NEEDED TO SATISFY THESE NUMBERS. 
          IF THE DEEDS DON'T, IF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS DON'T COME THROUGH. 
          BUT WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? YES, SIR. 
          UH, KEVIN SPARKMAN, 1 28 ROCKEN ROAD. 
          UM, JUST TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE OPENNESS OF THIS MEETING, IT'S, UH, LONG OVERDUE AND IT'S, UH, IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME NEW CANDIDATES, UH, AS A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS. 
          DECLARING FARMLAND, UH, AS LAND IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT IS TERRIBLE. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, EXISTING BILLS OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A CHANCE OF EVER GAINING ANY TRACTION, BUT TO, YOU KNOW, STOP THAT PRACTICE IN, IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. 
          UH, AS A RULE, I BELIEVE THAT ALMOST ALL PILOT PROGRAMS ARE ALSO TER TERRIBLE. 
          UM, AND THE TOWNSHIP SHOULD BE, UH, AVOIDING, UH, PILOT PROGRAMS, UH, WHEREVER POSSIBLE. 
          UH, A COMMENT ABOUT TAUNTON BOULEVARD, I KNOW THE TOWNSHIP IS, UH, I GUESS THE PLANNING BOARD IS, OR, OR ERI, IS WORKING ON, UH, A SORT OF, UH, A BIKE SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN, UH, PLAN. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STANDS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS OF THAT IN, IN ENGINEERING THAT CAN, CAN CHANGE HOW, AT LEAST IT'S NOT GONNA NECESSARILY STOP TRUCKS FROM DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO TAUNTON BOULEVARD, INCLUDING BIKE LANES. 
          I DON'T, I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHY BIKE LANES DIDN'T CONTINUE THROUGH LAKE PINE NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME. 
          BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PHYSICAL STRUCTURES THAT CAN BUILT, BE BUILT INTO ROADS THAT WOULD, UH, GREATLY ENHANCE THE POLICE'S ABILITY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN  ON THAT ROAD. 
          AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THE, UH, THE TRUCK, UH, ISSUE. 
          UM, YEAH, I'M JUST ECHOING YOUR COMMENTS. 
          THERE'S NOTHING WRONG IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UH, IT'S JUST THE WAY THE TOWNSHIP HAS BEEN DEALING WITH IT FOR THE PAST, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, 20 YEARS, UH, THEY NEEDED THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO. 
          UH, THEY NEEDED A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, STUDY THIS AND, AND COME UP WITH WAYS THAT, UH, WHERE WE'RE NOT JUST GIVING, GIVING, GIVING EVERYTHING AWAY TO THE DEVELOPERS. 
          UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S, THAT'S TAKING PLACE, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ROUTE 70, I THINK THE TER THE PLANNING HAS BEEN TERRIBLE. 
          UH, AND, UM, AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE GIVEN WAY TOO MUCH TO LANDOWNERS AND, 
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AND, YOU KNOW, BIG COMPANIES LIKE DR HORTON, YOU KNOW, $43 BILLION COMPANY, AND WE'RE NOT ASKING, ASKING ALMOST NOTHING IN RETURN, NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A 50 YARD, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK HAS BEEN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT IN BY, BY THE DEVELOPER. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THESE PROJECTS. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GONNA GET BUILT. 
          AND I THINK THE, THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE, AND THE COUNCIL HAS TO, UH, MAKE BETTER DEALS, YOU KNOW, WITH DEVELOPERS AND LANDOWNERS ON THESE, ON THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. 
          THERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS BUILT IN WHERE POSSIBLE THERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE AT, AT, AT FLYING WI THINK IS TRA TRAGIC. 
          I THINK TURNING, FLYING W INTO A HOUSING COMMUNITY IS, IS LIKE, TO ME, IS LIKE TEARING DOWN KIRBY'S MILL AND TURNING THAT THAT INTO A HOUSING COMMUNITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA GO, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THIS, THERE WERE, THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO IMPROVE. 
          YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAYS THERE, INSTALL SIDEWALKS, CONNECT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY BUILT, ASSUMING THE COMMUNITY'S GONNA BE BUILT, HOW IT'S GONNA CONNECT THAT COMMUNITY WITH KIRBY'S MILL, MAKING IT SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS WHO ARE GOING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, MOVING FORWARD AND ASKING AND DEMANDING A LOT MORE FROM LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO ARE BENEFITING, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE. 
          UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE OF BENEFIT TO, TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF MEDFORD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, SO MR. SPARK, IS IT SPARKMAN? I'M SORRY. 
          YEP. 
          BROUGHT SOME VERY GOOD POINTS. 
          UM, SO PILOTS DEFINITELY HAVE A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WHEN IT COMES TO REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE NEGOTIATING TOOLS IN WHICH WE AS COUNSEL THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT CAN UTILIZE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY OFFSET SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. SPARTAN BROUGHT UP. 
          UM, THE BIKE AND SAFEWAYS A SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER, IS REALLY MORE FOCUSED TOWARDS, UM, STOKES MILL, UH, THE INTERSECTIONS THAT AFFECT, UM, CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL IN THE VILLAGE. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE. 
          BUT THAT, THAT MONEY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AT THIS POINT FOR, FOR THOSE PROJECTS. 
          WE NEED A TOWNSHIP WIDE PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          MUCH LARGER PLAN. 
          BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT THAT SAFEWAY TO SCHOOL INITIATIVE WAS DESIGNATED FOR THAT ONE SPECIFIC AREA. 
          UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED DEALS WITH DEVELOPERS, AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT ARE ABLE TO BE DONE WITHOUT REDEVELOPMENT. 
          WE HAVE NO NEGOTIATION ABILITY WITH THE DEVELOPER. 
          UH, WE HAVE NO WAY TO CONTROL THE SETBACKS, UM, ANY, UM, CONCESSIONS THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE TO ANY EXTENT. 
          SO, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THERE, AND I DON'T WANT TO OVER SPEAK HERE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM TO EXTEND THE OLD RAILROAD TRACKS OR UTILIZE THE OLD RAILROAD TRACK EASEMENTS THAT WOULD, UH, MIMIC SOMETHING SIMILAR. 
          IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH ATLANTIC COUNTY, THERE'S A BIKE PATH THAT RUNS THROUGH THE ENTIRE SECTION OF ATLANTIC, UH, ALL OF ATLANTIC COUNTY. 
          IT, IT WOULD MIMIC THAT TO SOME EXTENT. 
          SO IF MEDFORD WOULD BE A PART OF THAT, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OVER TIME, THE HOPE THAT IT, IT WOULD EVOLVE INTO DIFFERENT SPURS THROUGH DIFFERENT TOWNS. 
          SO, UM, THE, I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THE NEED TO TRANSVERSE MEDFORD AND ITS COMMUNITIES THROUGH BIKES OR WALKING. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING, WHEN I HEARD THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD WITH, I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED BY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, SIR. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY NAIVE. 
          DO DEVELOPERS COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER? THERE IS, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          DO THE DEVELOPERS COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER? I, I COULDN'T. 
          DO THE DEVELOPERS COMPETE WITH ONE ANOTHER? IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE THERE'S JUST ONE DEVELOPER. 
          YEAH. 
          WE ARE BASED ON THE LANDOWNERS CHOOSING. 
          THEY DO THE BUILDER THAT THEY WANT TO. 
          THAT'S THOUGHT DR. HORTON, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, HE WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE LANDOWNERS. 
          WE DIDN'T PICK DR. HORTON. 
          THE LANDOWNERS PICKED THEM. 
          UM, THEY ARE A NATIONAL BUILDER TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT. 
          BUT, UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T CHOOSE THE BUILDER. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHOEVER THE LANDOWNERS SAY, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT OF SALE WITH TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. 
          I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP, MAYOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP DWELLING ON THIS, BUT THE, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS WILL GENERATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. 
          THAT'S ONE 
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OF THE REASONS THE PLANNING BOARD REQUIRES TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES AND OTHER STUDIES AS PART OF APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE DON'T DO TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES BECAUSE WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTEXT OF IT. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN IN FRONT OF US THAT GIVES TRIP GENERATIONS, GIVES TURNING MOVEMENTS, GIVES LEVELS OF SERVICE AT INTERSECTIONS. 
          THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD STUDY AS PART OF, UH, ANY APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH DEVELOPERS. 
          WE'RE DEVELOPER WITH THESE DEVELOPERS. 
          WE'RE NEGOTIATING CONSTANTLY. 
          THE MANAGER AND I MET WITH THEIR BOND COUNCIL AND OUR BOUND BOND COUNCIL TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GENERATE SOME FUNDS FOR THE TOWN TO HELP WITH THE, WITH THE SCHOOL, UH, ISSUES. 
          UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET RICH. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS, BUT CAN THERE BE SOME CONTRIBUTION BY THE DEVELOPERS? AND, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS. 
          THEN AGAIN, THAT REQUIRES A REDEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION. 
          YOU CAN'T HAVE A REDEVELOPMENT AREA BOND WHERE THE FUTURE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THE BONDS. 
          NOT THE CURRENT TAXPAYERS CAN'T HAVE THAT WITHOUT A REDEVELOPMENT AREA. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY BROADCAST IT, WE ARE WORKING ON YEAH. 
          AND THOSE, THOSE FINAL AGREEMENTS, MR. PRIME, THEY'LL COME BACK TO US AS COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. 
          YEAH. 
          OH YES. 
          US AND THE PLANNING BOARD, YES. 
          THAT PLANNING BOARD DID NOT APPROVE. 
          YES. 
          PLANNING BOARD DOES NOT APPROVE THE REDEVELOPMENT BONDS. 
          THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR ISSUE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN YOUR ISSUE. 
          I SHOULD  , UH, LUCKY YOU, . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN MUCH TIME DEDICATED BY ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ABSOLUTELY. 
          ON THIS. 
          AND, UM, MY ANALOGY, YOU KNOW, MY, UM, MY 2 CENTS ON THIS IS IT'S, IT'S TRULY LIKE IF WE HA IF WE, NOW THAT MONTVILLE HAS FAILED, THIS IS THE FIELD GOAL. 
          WE NEED TO COVER THE SPREAD IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. 
          WE DON'T, IF, IF THE DEEDS DON'T COME THROUGH AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS REDEVELOPMENT IN PLACE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THE BUILDERS WILL JUST GO RIGHT TO THE ZONING BOARD, GET AUTOMATIC APPROVAL FOR THE OVERLAYS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AS OBJECTIONS. 
          THOSE THINGS. 
          THE STATE DOES NOT WORRY ABOUT THOSE THINGS AS STRINGENTLY AS WE WOULD THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, UM, I DON'T, I'M NOT IN FULL FAVOR OF ALL THIS, BUT I UNDERSTAND BASED OFF THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN REDEVELOPMENT, IS IS THE ONLY WIN THIS TOWN MAY HAVE IF THE DEEDS FALL THROUGH. 
          MAYOR, IF I MAY, YES. 
          TIM, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE'RE GOING WITH REDEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO HAVE INCLUSIONARY ZONING, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY, YES. 
          WE ARE GONNA GO THAT ROUTE. 
          IT'S A PRECONDITION TO IT. 
          YES. 
          AND JUST AGAIN, I I I'M DWELLING ON THINGS AGAIN, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME CONTEXT TO EVERYTHING. 
          THE, THE MR. RENE MENTIONED CHANGING THE LAW. 
          UM, THIS IS A NEW JERSEY SUPREME COURT DETERMINATION THAT THERE'S A CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION UNDER THE NEW JERSEY CONSTITUTION TO REQUIRE US TO PROVIDE OUR FAIR SHARE OF THE, OF THE REGIONAL'S, UH, NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THE ONLY REMEDY THAT BUILDERS HAVE IS THE BUILDER'S REMEDY SUIT. 
          AND THE REASON I KEEP DWELLING ON IT, I KNOW IT'S NOT POPULAR, IS BECAUSE IT IS A INCREDIBLY DAMAGING TOOL. 
          IF WE DON'T COMPLY. 
          IF WE DON'T COMPLY. 
          EVERYTHING WE'VE NEGOTIATED AND EACH OF THE PROJECTS SO FAR HAVE NEGOTIATED IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, IF WE DON'T, ONCE THE BUILDERS REMEDY SUIT IS FILED, WE CAN'T SAY, OH, OKAY, SORRY. 
          UH, WE'LL GO BACK TO WHAT THE DEAL WE HAD BEFORE. 
          NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          SO THE DEAL HAS TO BE DONE NOW OR IN CONTACT WITH THE TIMEFRAME, NOT AFTER THE FACT. 
          AND THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, IF WE'RE ABLE TO EXTEND THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, IF WE CAN AFFORD TO DO IT. 
          AND THE REASON I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IT WAS NOT BECAUSE I THINK I SAID IT WAS 'CAUSE THEY WERE TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          WHAT I MEANT WAS WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WAS THE REASON. 
          BUT IF, IF, IF, IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN CONTINUE OUR, IF WE CONTINUE TO COMPLY, IF WE DON'T LOSE OUR IMMUNITY, IF WE CAN GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL UNITS THROUGH EXTENDING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE UNITS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED. 
          AND PERHAPS THE DEVELOPERS COULD BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES INSTEAD OF TOWNHOUSES. 
          THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT WILL, THAT WILL PRESENT ITSELF AND WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THE PLAN. 
          THERE'S NO STATUTORY PROHIBITION AGAINST AMENDING THE PLAN. 
          THE STATUTORY PROHIBITION IS NOT MEETING THE DEADLINES IN THE PLAN. 
          WE HAD TO HAVE THE PLAN IN PLACE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PLAN IN PLACE, A CONCEPT PLAN IN PLACE. 
          AND I GAVE YOU, I I, I SENT YOU THE MEMO WITH, I QUOTED THE STATUTE MM-HMM . 
          AND YOU LOSE YOUR IMMUNITY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT IF I'M GIVING YOU MY ADVICE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M PAID TO DO, YOU CAN'T LOSE YOUR IMMUNITY. 
          THE FACT THAT WE CAN KEEP AMENDING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE. 
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WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. 
          HI. 
          UM, MY NAME IS SUNNY, SUNNY TRAN. 
          I LIVE ON JENNINGS ROAD AND I LOVE HOW THIS MEETINGS WENT WITH, THERE'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN LIKE PEOPLE AND IT, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM 'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT TILL TONIGHT. 
          KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WE NEED 171 UNITS, RIGHT? AND ON AVERAGE IT'S ABOUT 800 HOMES THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP. 
          EITHER YOU DO DEED RESTRICTION BUILD AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. 
          AND THAT'S BY MARCH 15TH, YOU NEED THIS PLAN AND YOU WANNA HAVE AS LEAST UNITS AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO PREFERABLY 171 AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO IT DOESN'T HIT THE BUDGETS OF THE SCHOOLS AND ALL THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? ROUGH, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IS IS, I GUESS WHEN BUILDERS BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS OPPOSED TO REGULAR APARTMENTS, LIKE THEY LIKE TO BUILD MULTIPLE, DO THEY MAKE MORE MONEY FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR REGULAR HOUSING RATHER THAN AFFORDABLE? THEY DON'T LIKE TO BUILD THAT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE I DON'T, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE ME TAKING YOUR TIME TO ANSWER THIS? SURE, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S GOOD. 
          AGAIN, I CAME AT THIS FROM THE SAME PLACE YOU'RE AT. 
          SO THE TOWNSHIP CAN'T BUILD HOMES. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY AS A MUNICIPALITY TO BUILD HOMES. 
          WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          ONE MECHANISM IS EXTENDING DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          WE'LL PUT THAT TO THE SIDE. 
          THE OTHER MECHANISM IS HAVING A BUILDER SATISFY OUR NEED FOR THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          THE BUILDERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD FOUR MARKET RATE HOMES IN ADDITION TO ONE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING FOR US, BECAUSE THIS ONE DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY MONEY TO ACTUALLY COST THEM MONEY. 
          SO, UM, I CAN'T JUST DEFINE THE MECHANISMS THAT, THAT THAT WAS BEEN APPROVED BY, BUT THERE'S BASICALLY THIS FOUR TO ONE REACH THAT YIELDS THE HIGH NOTE. 
          HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. 
          YEAH, I, THAT JUST HELPS ME UNDERSTAND, LIKE, I THOUGHT THEY MADE MONEY FOR BUILDING ANYTHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO YEAH, IF THEY, IF AND AFFORDABILITY IS A, IS A SPECTRUM, IT'S NOT A FIXED NUMBER. 
          SO IF THEY HAVE TO BUILD AN AFFORDABLE UNIT, AND I DON'T KNOW THE, I DON'T WANNA, DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT IF IT COSTS THEM 200,000 TO BUILD THE UNIT AND THEY, THEY HAVE TO SELL IT FOR 200,000, THEY MAKE NO MONEY ON THAT. 
          RIGHT? OH, THE INSTANCE MIGHT BE IT COSTS THEM 350,000 TO BUILD THE UNIT AND THEY HAVE TO SELL IT FOR 200,000 AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          FORGIVE THE NUMBERS, THEY'RE NOT RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT'S THE, THE LOGIC USED TO ALLOW A BUILDER TO BUILD ADDITIONAL UNITS AT MARKET RATE, WHICH THEN THEY CAN SELL. 
          AGAIN, SAME THING. 
          IF THEY, IF IT COSTS 'EM THREE 50, THEY CAN SELL THAT ONE FOR SIX. 
          THEY CAN MAKE MONEY ON THAT. 
          SO THAT, THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND A LOT OF WHAT YOUR DILEMMA IS BECAUSE YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE PROBLEMS THAT ARE KIND OF CONNECTED TO IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YES MA'AM. 
          MY NAME IS ALEXA GUARI. 
          I LIVE ON 3 2 3 CHURCH ROAD, UM, DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM RICK'S AUTO BODY, WHICH IS GONNA BE THE FOURTH ROUND. 
          UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN MAYBE EVERYONE ELSE MIGHT BE WONDERING. 
          LIKE, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN LIKE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE? SO LIKE, OBVIOUSLY I'LL BE AT THE PLANNING BOARD, I WANNA GET ALL MY INFORMATION 'CAUSE THIS IS DIRECTLY AFFECTING ME AND WHETHER I'M GONNA SELL MY HOME OR NOT. 
          UM, BUT LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD, LIKE THE ROAD CAN'T HANDLE? 'CAUSE IT'S ALL THREE MILES WITH IN EACH OTHER. 
          I CAN'T HANDLE THAT MANY PEOPLE, WHICH WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, BUT WHEN ARE WE GONNA FIND OUT? LIKE, IS THE ROAD GONNA BE LIKE, ARE WE GONNA LOOK AT THAT? WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT STUDIES, BUT WHEN ARE THESE STUDIES BEING DONE? HAVE THEY BEEN DONE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT STUDIES? NOT EVEN JUST THE ROAD, JUST LIKE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM. 
          IF YOU'RE PUTTING SEWER IN THESE PLACES, AM I GONNA BE REQUIRED TO, LIKE, WHEN ARE ALL THOSE THINGS KIND OF BE, I KNOW YOU SAID THIS WAS KIND OF JUST LIKE THE PLANNING AND THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT SOMETHING, BUT YOU'RE SUBMITTING SOMETHING MARCH 15TH. 
          BUT CAN THAT BE LIKE, I DON'T WANNA SAY CHANGED, BUT LIKE, HAVE THEY ZONED EVERYTHING? HAVE THEY, I I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE ARE DOING A PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT GIVES THE, IF IF IT'S ADOPTED BY MARCH 15TH, IT GIVES THE BUILDERS AND THE OWNERS THE RIGHT TO APPLY TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR AN ACTUAL APPROVAL TO BUILD. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THERE'S PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          IF YOU LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET, YOU'LL GET A NOTICE, THERE'LL BE NOTICES IN THE PAPER. 
          IT'S LIKE A PLAN, A TRADITIONAL PLANNING BOARD APPLICATION. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN ALL THESE DETAILS ARE WORKED OUT. 
          AND I'M NOT TRYING TO JUST PUT, I'M NOT SAYING DON'T RELAX, YOU KNOW. 
          NO, NO. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING NOW FOR 
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THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO BE THOSE NUMBERS OF UNITS. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE TO GENERATE THOSE NUMBERS. 
          BUT THERE IS THAT WHOLE PROCESS, IT TAKES AT LEAST A YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE PROJECTS HERE WILL HAVE IT, THEIR ENTITLEMENTS IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS, WHICH YOU CAN'T EVEN BUILD UNTIL YOU HAVE ALL THOSE ENTITLEMENTS. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A LONG TERM PROCESS HERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE STAGE WHERE YOU WILL GET, AS A NEIGHBOR, YOU'LL GET THE NOTICE AND THE RIGHT TO COMMENT MM-HMM . 
          AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ACTUAL, WHAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY BE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU GUYS LIKE SUBMIT YOUR PLANS YEP. 
          MARCH 15TH AND THEN THEY GO FROM THERE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT GIVES THE BUILDERS THE RIGHT TO GO ONCE WE HAVE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN MM-HMM . 
          WE HAVE REDEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH BINDS THEM TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF, IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THAT, THAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT THEN TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          THEY HAVE THE ZONING THEN THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND THAT'S WHEN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS ARE REVIEWED AND APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR EXPLANING. 
          JUST THE QUESTION. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF THE FALLS THROUGH, IF WHICH PART? UM, THE DEVELOPER SAY AFTER THE PLAN WENT IN AND THEN DEVELOPER WAS, I DUNNO, ECONOMY INTENT, WHATEVER WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISE. 
          SO, SO ONE GOOD THING IN OUR FAVOR IS WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE UNITS BUILT. 
          THE TOWNSHIP'S OBLIGATION IS TO PROVIDE A REALISTIC OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO AS LONG AS WE DO THAT, WE'VE MET OUR OBLIGATION. 
          WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO A BUILDER'S REMEDY SUIT. 
          BUT IF THE BUILDER GOES BANKRUPT AND THE JOB WON'T BE BUILT, WE THEN WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IN THE THIRD ROUND FOR FLYING. 
          W IT'S, IT'S, I DON'T WANNA SAY STALLED, BUT IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S CHALLENGES TO THE ACTUAL SITE AND, AND, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S JUST DELAYED. 
          BUT IT'S, BUT IF, IF FOR INSTANCE, THAT BUILDER WAS TO GO BANKRUPT OR HAPPENS, THEN WE HAVE TO REVISE THE PLAN. 
          THE REASON THE FLYING DEBBIE'S NOT BUILT IS THE ACTUAL, UH, ONE OF THE APPROVALS THEY REQUIRED WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE SEWER SERVICE AREA. 
          IT TOOK TWO AND A HALF YEARS FOR DEP TO APPROVE THAT BEFORE THE DEVELOPER COULD EVEN PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING. 
          SO THEN NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR ACTUAL PLANS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LONG, IT'S, WELL, YOU ALL, YOU ALL KNOW. 
          IT'S LIKE THE DEVELOPER NEW JERSEY. 
          IT'S A LONG PROCESS. 
          ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, LORETTA KAKI, 30 POGON TRAIL, MEDFORD. 
          WE'RE AT THE OTHER END. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 50 YEARS. 
          THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AND CHANGED IN MEDFORD. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WITH THESE PLANS, WHEN YOU DO THESE PLANS, WE CAN, AS CITIZENS OF MEDFORD, WE CAN GO LOOK AT THESE PLANS. 
          THEY'RE PUBLIC. 
          YES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          AND HOW WOULD WE FIND THEM? THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE, TOWNSHIP WEBSITE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE OTHER THING IS TOO, IS THIS, I THINK THE BOARDING, THE PLANS ARE NOT FINALIZED. 
          THEY ARE WHAT THEY CALL CONCEPT PLANS. 
          THE CONCEPT THAT, THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON THAT WE HOPE FALLS APART. 
          UM, IS THIS RECORDED? THIS MEETING? YES. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          A VIDEO BEHIND YOU. 
          OH, THERE IS SOMETHING BEHIND US. 
          AND THIS AUDIO'S BEING RECORDED. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A BACKUP DISC BEING BURNED AS WE SPEAK. 
          SO WE CAN GO ON THE SITE LIKE WE DO WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD TO SEE THIS WHOLE THING TOO. 
          YES. 
          AND WE'LL THANK YOU TO REFRESH OUR MINDS FOR THAT, FOR HER EFFORTS TO GET ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING. 
          YEAH, PERFECT. 
          A GREAT IDEA. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU HAVE A HARD JOB AND IT PAYS GREAT. 
            RECORDING. 
          THERE'S NOTHING LIKE MANY THANK YOUS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOUS ARE THE WORLD THAT WE NEED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          JUST, JUST ABOUT, UM, FOR YOUR, CAN WE TAKE A BREAK? YEAH, WE'RE GOING, WE'RE NEED LIKE A FIVE MINUTE HERE. 
          OKAY, SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL COME BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS. 
          THIS WAS ABOUT A LITTLE SHORTER TWO HOURS. 
          SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION WAS TWO HOURS. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT SHORTER. 
          TWO HOURS. 
          SO IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHAT YOU, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO HOUR MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM. 
          WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS HERE TO GOOD IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
           TAKE CARE OF IMPORTANT BUSINESS. 
          WE ARE GOING TO RECONVENE THE MEETING. 
          [03:00:01]
UM, I DID WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY, MR. PRIME DID NOTE THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION THAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED WAS APPROXIMATELY TWO HOURS TO JUST FROM A, A TIMING STANDPOINT, FROM A TOWN HALL EXPERIENCE THAT WAS 21 SPEAKERS THAT I'M ASSUMING SPOKE ON AVERAGE FIVE MINUTES, BUT, UH, THEY COULDN'T HAVE. 
          BUT, UM, JUST, JUST FOR SAKE OF CONVERSATION, JUST SO WE HAVE REST AND REFERENCE POINTS, WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT ALSO WAS, UM, ONE OF OUR, UM, RESIDENTS MENTIONED THAT IF SOMEONE SIGNS UP FOR A TOWN HALL USING THE MECHANISM WE PUT IN PLACE AND DOES NOT SHOW, UM, THEY MAY NOT THERE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME PENALTY IMPOSED ON THAT. 
          THAT JUST WAS A RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, UH, IF, MAY I INTERRUPT YOU ON THAT? SURE. 
          MY ONLY CONCERN FOR THAT IS WHAT ABOUT THE MOM WHO SIGNED UP AND THEN THEIR KID IS SICK WHEN THEY CAME BACK? I, I'M SURE IF THERE'S A VIABLE REASON. 
          SO YEAH. 
          I JUST WANNA LEAVE IT LIKE A LITTLE CAUSE YEAH, WE JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE LOAD UP THE, THE REGISTRY AND THEN NOT SHOWING UP. 
          THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN, CAN WE, UH, CAN WE JUST, WHEN WE GET THE REGISTRY RIGHT, CAN WE JUST DO A ROLL CALL BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT? GREAT. 
          IN ORDER, IN, IN ORDER. 
          SEE WHO'S HERE? YEP. 
          AND THEN WE CAN DO THE RANDOMLY. 
          YEAH. 
          GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, NEXT RECOMMENDATION FROM ANOTHER RESIDENT WAS, OR I'M SORRY, OBSERVATION WAS IF THE RESIDENT CHOOSES TO YIELD THEIR TIME, THAT WOULD, THAT COULD OR MAY COUNT AGAINST THEIR OVERALL TIME. 
          IF THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, I DON'T WANT, I, I WOULDN'T WANT THE COUNCIL TO KEEP PAUSING THE TIME. 
          SO IT IS UP TO THEM, DO THEY WANT US TO INTERACT WITH THEM OR DO THEY WANT TO ASK OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE INTERACT? I MISSED, I MISSED THE BEGINNING. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE NAMES, THEN YOU'RE GONNA CALL, CALL UP THE ONCE, ONCE ALL THE NAMES ARE REGISTERED THROUGH WHATEVER PORTAL WE USED. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY'RE STACK RANKED BASED OFF A RANDOMIZED NUMBER GENERATOR. 
          WE'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW. 
          EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO COME, BUT WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE TOWN HALL TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER ONE IS HERE, NUMBER TWO. 
          SO MAYBE THEY SHOULD JUST CLICK, YOU KNOW, CHECK SOMETHING OFF SO WE'RE NOT CALLING OUT MEETINGS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          POTENTIALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN WORK ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S HOW MOST MEETINGS WORK. 
          YEP. 
          WELL, ONE THING I DO KIND OF FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IS I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE OH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT SAY SOMETHING, YOU SHOULD SAY SOMETHING. 
          YOU CAN'T GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          HIGH SCHOOL USE. 
          SO I, AND I'M SORRY I WAS MADE WHEN I SAID YIELDING TIME, I WAS IN REFERENCE TO RIGHT. 
          INTERACTING WITH STAFF OR COUNSEL. 
          UM, THE, WE DISCUSSED, MR. WILSON BROUGHT UP THAT THE 10 MINUTE THRESHOLD ALLOTTED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE. 
          SO WE ASK THAT POTENTIALLY IN THE REGISTRY THEY PUT HOW MANY MINUTES THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR UP TO 10. 
          AND JUST A, JUST A THOUGHT, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY YOU WOULDN'T LIMIT IT TO FIVE WITH THE RIGHT TO EXTEND IT IN, IN THE TOWN HALL FOR AN ADDITIONAL UP TO FIVE INSTEAD OF ONE? I THINK THE, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ALL COUNSEL, I'M JUST YEAH. 
          IT COULD BE THAT, UM, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO JUST COME AND ASK A QUESTION, I NEED TWO MINUTES JUST TO ASK THE QUESTION OR I HAVE 10 MINUTES OF INFORMATION TO PRESENT. 
          IF WE KNEW THAT NUMBER AHEAD OF TIME, WE'D BE ABLE TO PROCESS OKAY. 
          THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UH, THERE WERE EXPERIENCES, THERE WAS FOUR EXPERIENCES DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE WE EXTENDED TO THE ONE MINUTE LIMIT. 
          UM, ONE RESIDENT RECEIVED A MINUTE AND A HALF 'CAUSE WE HAD PAUSED THEIR TIME MM-HMM . 
          AND FORGIVE ME IF THERE WAS MORE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I THINK THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, SO 
          [VIII. MANAGER’S REPORT]
NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT. 
          MR. HORNICK. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          UM, I HAVE, UM, TWO NEW EMS VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, THOMAS NICHOLS AND WINNIE LYNN THAT I WOULD ASK COUNSEL TO GIVE YOUR APPROVAL TO. 
          AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MAYOR. 
          SURE. 
          UM, TO, UM, MR. HARLE, WE NEED A VOICE VOTE FOR APPROVAL, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          USUALLY YOU OH, AND ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? YEP. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          OPPOSED? IF I MAY? YEAH. 
          UM, CHIEF DOBY, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF EITHER MR. NICHOLS OR MRS. MS. LIN ARE HERE TONIGHT OR NOT, BUT, UH, THEY'RE NOT PLEASED ON BEHALF OF COUNSEL AND ALL THE RESIDENTS THANK THEM AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF FOR WHAT THEY DO, UM, THEY STEP UP AND SUPPORT US IN OUR DARKEST HOURS. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. 
          UM, MR. WARREN, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK, UH, YOUR CONSIDERATION ON WAS, UM, HAVING A, OTHER THAN YOU AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU, YOUR ROLES 
          [03:05:01]
NECESSARILY HAVE MORE RESPONSIBILITY, UH, TO HAVE THE REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYBE BE ASSIGNED DIRECTLY TO A COMMITTEE BEING THE E-D-C-E-A-A-C AND THE METRO ALLIANCE GROUP. 
          THE ONE THING THAT I'VE HEARD IN A RELATIVELY SHORT TIME YEAR AND A HALF I'VE BEEN HERE IS THAT HAVING COUNCIL ROTATE THROUGH THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES DOESN'T DO THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES GOOD. 
          BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO RE-EXPLAIN EVERYTHING WHEN A, YOU KNOW, A ROTATING COUNCIL MEMBER COMES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF, IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME. 
          IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ANGIE, ANGELA, AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EACH OF THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I, I CAN SPEAK ON FROM MY OWN STANDPOINT, UM, AS A COUNCIL PERSON, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP GOING TO, LIKE IN A ROTATION, YOU END UP GOING TO LIKE THREE EDC AND FOUR EAC. 
          YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE TO DEBRIEF YOU AT EACH MEETING. 
          UM, THERE'S NO CONTINUITY THERE. 
          SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF A DESIGNATING A COUNCIL PERSON. 
          UM, AND THIS IS JUST IN THE PAST FOR FOR, FOR REFERENCE BECAUSE, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T SERVE ON COUNCIL, BUT TWO OF US SERVE ON THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL. 
          WE WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE ROTATION OR ASSIGNMENT, BUT WE WERE USED AS ALTERNATES IF FOR, I'LL JUST USE IT IN, SINCE MR. COX WAS ASSIGNED TO A BOARD AND HE COULDN'T MAKE IT, HE COULD CALL ME AND SAY, HEY, I CAN'T MAKE IT TONIGHT, TONIGHT. 
          CAN YOU SUB IN? SO, UM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, UM, ASSIGNING TO THOSE THREE BOARDS. 
          A SPECIFIC COUNCIL PERSON? YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          WE WOULD MAKE A NICE DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, WE MAY HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT PRIOR, BUT I LIKE, I I LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD JUST ASK THE COUNCIL, IF I COULD JUST ASK THAT EACH COUNCIL PERSON GIVE THEIR PREFERENCE TO WHICH BOARD YOU WOULD WANT TO SIT ON TO THE MAYOR. 
          DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? DOES ANYONE HAVE A PREFERENCE OR, UM, I, I CAN'T SAY THAT MY, CAN YOU SEND US A LIST? SURE. 
          WE'LL GET BACK, SEND IT TO YOU. 
          OR WE COULD PUT NUMBERS. 
          YEAH, THERE WE GO. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          THANKS. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          I CAN'T THINK WHO THE THIRD ONE IS. 
          , UM, IS MR. , YOU COMPLETE WITH YOUR REPORT? I AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [IX. CLERK’S REPORT]
NOW WE ARE ON TO THE CLERK'S REPORT, MS. WICKER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TONIGHT WE JUST HAVE BINGO BASKET AND A 50 50 RAFFLE LICENSE FOR MEDFORD HOME SCHOOL ASSOCIATION ON MARCH 7TH. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR? CAN I GET AN ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE CLERK'S REPORT IS APPROVED. 
          SO 
          [X. BILL LIST]
NOW ONTO THE BILLS LIST. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE BILL LIST FOR ACCEPTANCE. 
          JANUARY 15TH, 2026. 
          DO ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE BILLS LIST? MOTION? NO. 
          ACCEPT. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED? OKAY, THE BILL LIST IS PASSED. 
          NOW WE WILL 
          [XI. ORDINANCES FOR INTRODUCTION]
BE MOVING ON TO INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES. 
          WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INTRODUCE ORDINANCE 20 20 26 DASH ONE? I MOVE THAT. 
          COUNSEL, INTRODUCE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE 2026 DASH ONE, AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE, ARTICLE SEVEN, BUDGET AND FISCAL PROCEDURES. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR THE CFO TO MAKE PAYMENTS TO UTILITY COMPANIES ON A TIMELY BASIS DURING MONTHLY, I'M SORRY, DURING MONTHS WHERE WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING TO AVOID SERVICE DISRUPTION. 
          WE'RE LATE FEES. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT, OH, DO WE NEED ROLL CALL AT THIS POINT? MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          MS. SANMAR? YES. 
          MR. CO? YES. 
          MS. MOORE. 
          AYE. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR BORGE. 
          AYE. 
          MAYOR CICK. 
          AYE. 
          SO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS WILL BE FEBRUARY 3RD, 2026. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DO HAVE LISTED ON ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCE LISTED 2026 DASH TWO ESTABLISHING CALENDAR YEAR 20 20, 26, SALARY AND WAGE RANGES FOR CERTAIN EMPLOYEES. 
          I WILL ASK THAT THIS ORDINANCE BE TABLED TILL NEXT MEETING TO GIVE CURRENT COUNSEL OF WHICH THERE ARE THREE NEW MEMBERS, AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE EXISTING, UM, ORDINANCE AND THE WAGES FOR COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND WAGES THAT ARE LISTED TODAY. 
          IS EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? MOTION TO TABLE? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          SECOND. 
          MOTION TO TABLE. 
          MOTION. 
          MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          AND ROLL CALL. 
          MS. TIMORE. 
          YES. 
          MR. COX? YES. 
          MS. MILL? YES. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR MORGIE? YES. 
          MAYOR SAYS YES. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE WILL TABLE THIS ORDINANCE UNTIL THE FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING. 
          WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ORDINANCE 2026 
          [03:10:01]
DASH THREE? OBJECTION TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE ON FIRST READING AND INTRODUCTION ORDINANCE 2026 DASH THREE. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          READ, READ THE TITLE RIGHT? I'M SORRY. 
          CALENDAR YEAR 2026 MILE AWARENESS TO EXCEED THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION LIMITS AND TO ESTABLISH THE CAP BANK. 
          RIGHT, SO A MUNICIPALITY. 
          THE REASON I DID, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          AND THEN WE NEED MY HEARING AIDS AREN'T WARNING. 
          NEITHER IS MY THROAT. 
          WE WILL NEED ROLL CALL AT THIS POINT. 
          YOU READ THE TITLE? YES, WE HAVE THE TITLE. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          MS. SANMAR? YES. 
          MR. COX? YES. 
          MS. MILL. 
          AYE. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR OR AYE MAYOR. 
          AYE. 
          SO EXPLANATION OF THIS ORDINANCE OF MUNICIPALITY MADE BY ORDINANCE INCREASE THE COST OF LIVING CAP ADJUST ADJUSTMENT PERCENTAGE UP TO 3.5% OR BANK FOR UP TO TWO YEARS. 
          THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ITS FINAL APPROPRIATION SUBJECT TO THE CAP 3.5% CAP BANKING MAY BE DONE BY ORDINANCE, WHICH PERMITS INCREASING APPROPRIATIONS IN BANKING. 
          ANY UNAPPROPRIATED BALANCE CAP BANK BALANCES FROM 2024 AND 2025 THEN WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR USE IN 2026. 
          IF THIS MEASURE IS NOT ENACTED, THE TOWNSHIP LOSES THE ABILITY TO BANK THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS WILL BE FEBRUARY 3RD AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE ARE NO ORDINANCES FOR SECOND READING 
          [XIII. CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS]
AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY CAN REMEMBER THAT FARGO RESOLUTION 33 IS MOVED OUT OF CONSENT. 
          SO OUR FIRST RESOLUTION IS RESOLUTION 22. 
          2026. 
          APPOINTING RISK MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT FOR BURLINGTON COUNTY MUNICIPAL JOINT INSURANCE FUND RESOLUTION 23 20 26 AUTHORIZING CANCELLATION OF FINAL 2025. 
          PRELIMINARY 2026 PROPERTY TAXES FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY A QUALIFIED TOTALLY DISABLED EXEMPT VETERAN RESOLUTION 24 20 26 AUTHORIZING CONTRACT WITH BRIGHTLY FOR CMMS SOFTWARE FOR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS RESOLUTION 25 20 26 AUTHORIZED AN TOWNSHIP MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DISCHARGE OF MORTGAGE AND A NOTE FOR THE PREMISES KNOWN AS 1 33 OLD MARLTON PIKE BLOCK 9 0 3 0.01 LOT 16.01 RESOLUTION 26 20 26 AUTHORIZING EXECUTION BY THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFORD OF LEASE AGREEMENT, BY AND BETWEEN CEDAR STONE BUILDING CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION AS LANDLORD AND THE TOWNSHIP OF METFORD. 
          TENANT RESOLUTION 2026. 
          I'M SORRY, RESOLUTION 27 20 26 AUTHORIZING EXECUTION BY THE TOWNSHIP OF METFORD OF TRI-PARTY CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFORD AND THE METFORD MEMORIAL COMMUNITY CENTER AND CEDAR STONE BUILDING COM. 
          CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION RESOLUTION 28 20 26 AUTHORIZING EXECUTION BY THE TOWNSHIP OF METFORD OF LEASE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFORD AND THE CEDAR STONE BUILDING CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION RESOLUTION 29 20 26 AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT WITH ERI FOR CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT OF THE KIRBYS MILL DAM REPAIRS RESOLUTION 30 20 26 AUTHORIZING SOLICITATION OF ROADWAY PERMIT FOR UNION FIRE COMPANY, EXCUSE ME, RESOLUTION 30 20 26 AUTHORIZED A CONTRACT WITH ERI FOR LSRP SERVICES FOR 1 75 A TAUNTON BOULEVARD IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $49,000 RESOLUTION 32 20 26 AUTHORIZING VARIOUS PROFESSIONAL APPOINTMENTS AND CONTRACTS AND RESOLUTION 34 20 26 AUTHORIZING THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT FOR COMPUTER NETWORKING AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES TO PREMIER TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS LLC AND THE AMOUNT OF $192,595 AND 80 CENTS. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE STATED CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS? SO, MAYOR, UM, ON, UH, MR. LOPEZ HAD ASKED ABOUT RESOLUTION 25 20 26, THE EXECUTION OF A DISCHARGE OF MORTGAGE, UH, FOR 1 33 OLD MARLTON PIKE. 
          THAT IS A DEED RESTRICTED PROPERTY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          IT IS BEING SOLD TO ANOTHER APPLICANT WHO QUALIFIES TO KEEP THAT AS A DEED RESTRICTED, AFFORDABLE HOME. 
          UM, RESOLUTIONS 26, 27 AND 28, UH, ALL GO TOGETHER. 
          THE TOWNSHIP, AS MR. PRIME HAS POINTED OUT PREVIOUSLY, HAS A LONG-TERM LEASE WITH THE, THE, UH, MEDFORD MEMORIAL COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE USED TO ALSO HAVE A LEASE WITH ITS NEIGHBOR, CEDAR STONE BUILDING CONDOMINIUM. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO CODIFY ALL THE RELATIONSHIPS 
          [03:15:01]
AND RENEW OUR AGREEMENT WITH, UM, CEDAR STONE FOR, TO USE THEIR PARKING SPOTS. 
          AND, AND PART OF THE, THE AGREEMENT, UH, IS TO GIVE THEM A LICENSE ON OUR BACK. 
          GRAVEL LOT WON'T TAKE AWAY ANY SPOTS, BUT GIVE THEM A LICENSE TO PUT A COUPLE DUMPSTERS BACK THERE FOR BUDS BAGELS THAT SHOULD BE OPENING, HOPEFULLY . 
          YOU KNOW, KNOCK ON WOOD, IT'S BEEN DELAYED A WHILE, BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A FORESEEABLE FUTURE ONCE WE GET THIS, UH, APPROVED. 
          WITH YOUR CONSENT. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT CONCESSION OF SPACE FOR DUMPSTER DOES NOT TAKE UP ANY SPOTS IN THE VILLAGE, WILL NOT TAKE UP ANY OF OUR EXISTING PARKING SPOTS IN THE GRAVEL PARKING LOT, AND CEDAR STONE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ERECTING UH, SCREENING AROUND THE DUMPSTERS. 
          GREAT. 
          AND ANY ANYTHING ELSE RELATED TO THAT, THE DUMPSTERS OR DEFENSIVE? THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTION SECOND. 
          UM, MS. WICKER ROLL. 
          MS. SAMUEL? YES. 
          MR. COX? YES. 
          MS. MILL. 
          AYE. 
          BOARD. 
          AYE MAYOR. 
          AYE. 
          THE CON LISTED CONSENT AGENDA RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED NOW WE WILL FOCUS IN ON RESOLUTION 33 20 26, AMENDING RESOLUTION A HUNDRED AND TEN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE, AND DIRECTING THE MEDFORD TOWNSHIP PLANNING BOARD TO CONDUCT A PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION OF BLOCK 8 0 3 LOT 6.01 AND 6.02 AND ELIMINATING THE PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION OF BLOCK 4 0 1 LOT, 10.1, 10.2, 10.4 AND 15 FOR THE POTENTIAL DESIGNATION AS AN AREA IN NEED OF REDEVELOPMENT. 
          IF I MAY, BEFORE WE, UM, DISCUSS THIS. 
          SO WE'VE CLEARLY HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THIS EVENING, WE'VE HEARD VIA EMAIL, THOSE EMAILS WERE HEARD. 
          UM, WE'VE ATTENDED INFORMAL TOWN HALLS, WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED AT GROCERY STORES, AT BANKS, BUT AT THE BUS STOP PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE WE GO, THIS TOPIC HAS COME UP. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR NOW TO THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO HEAR IF THEY HAVE ANY THINGS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. 
          I WOULD SAY THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW IS THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE THE INCLUSIONARY ZONING. 
          THERE IS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ON FACEBOOK AND THE GROCERY STORE, UM, AND, AND TEXT MESSAGES ABOUT WHETHER WE WERE GONNA HAVE THAT OR NOT. 
          IT SEEMED TO BE A CURE ALL. 
          WE ARE 100% GONNA HAVE THE INCLUSIONARY ZONING, UH, WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED, SO PLEASE KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN. 
          UM, THAT'S THE NO UNNECESSARY PILOTS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT AS A MEMBER OF MEDFORD AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA ATTEMPT TO STOP THOSE IS, IS A HUGE, HUGE PIECE. 
          I WISH THERE WAS MORE PEOPLE HERE TO HEAR IT. 
          THEY'RE GONNA WATCH IT AT HOME. 
          OH, THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND IF, IF I MAY, SO I, AGAIN, NO THROUGH, I, I VOTED AGAINST THIS THE FIRST TIME WHEN IT CAME UP IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS DECEMBER 16TH, AND I VOTED AGAINST IT BECAUSE I BELIEVED AT THAT TIME IT WASN'T THE RIGHT THING FOR MEDFORD. 
          BUT, UM, NOW DEFINITELY HEARING THE MONTVILLE HEARING TONIGHT, WHICH WE HAD NO CLUE WHEN IT HAPPENED AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, UM, I FEEL AS THOUGH THE BENEFITS REDEVELOPMENT BRINGS TO THOSE PARCELS AND IT, THE WHAT CONTROL WE CAN HAVE OVER THEM BACK TO THE COUNCIL. 
          I FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, I WANT THE MEDFORD SCHOOL BOARD TO KNOW THAT THAT MEDFORD SCHOOL BOARD WILL HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. 
          WE WILL NOT UTILIZE ANY UNNECESSARY PILOTS THAT AREN'T STATE MANDATED. 
          UM, I THINK AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PILOT. 
          YES. 
          UNDER STATE LAW, THEY, THEY'RE, BY DEFINITION THEY'RE WORTH LESS SO THEY PAY LESS TAXES. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WHEN, I DON'T EVEN WANNA SAY WHEN POSSIBLE AT EVERY POSSIBLE JUNCTURE DURING THIS REDEVELOPMENT, I WILL NOT PUSH FOR PILOTS OUTSIDE FROM WHAT STATES, STATE'S MANDATED. 
          AND, UM, IF A PILOT IS REQUIRED AND APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL, MY VOTE WOULD BE TO PROPERLY DISCUSS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD WHAT THEIR OBLIGATIONS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AND AMENABLE, DIVIDE THAT MONEY UP. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A NON PILOTED DEED, THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR FAIR SHARE. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET OUR FAIR SHARE AND IT'S OVER WITH. 
          BUT IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A PILOT, WHICH I'M HOPING THERE DOESN'T, I WANT THEM TO HAVE A SEAT 
          [03:20:01]
AT THE TABLE SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT, WHAT THAT MONEY IS AND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. 
          SO I WANT FULL TRANSPARENCY. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          YEP. 
          UM, AND I PLAN ON, AGAIN, PENDING OUR VOTE HERE TONIGHT, I HAVE A LETTER DRAFTED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. 
          I WON'T BE ABLE TO ATTEND THEIR MEETING ON MONDAY 'CAUSE WE HAVE A SPECIAL EXECUTIVE SCHEDULED MONDAY. 
          BUT TO SHARE MY INTENTIONS AND POTENTIALLY THE COUNCIL'S INTENTIONS OF HAVING THEM HAVE A SEAT AT THIS TABLE DURING THESE DISCUSSIONS, I, UM, THANK DEPUTY MAYOR VOORHEES FOR HER, HER POINT OF, OF HAVING INCLUSIONARY ZONING AS PART OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORS AND, UM, THE, THE, THE PREMISE OF INCLUSIONARY. 
          WE WILL TRY TO DEVELOP NEIGHBORHOODS THAT INCLUDE THE AFFORDABLE WITH THE MARKET RATES. 
          THERE WON'T BE DESIGNATED AREAS OF AFFORDABLE THAT DESIGNATED AREAS OF, OF HIGH, OF, UH, MARKET RATE HOMES. 
          UM, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE VOTE I'M ABOUT TO PLACE, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE SAYS ANY COMMENTS, I'D, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THEM. 
          I, I, I CAME IN TONIGHT. 
          UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, FIRST OF ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I CAME IN TONIGHT PREPARED TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS, THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE TABLED, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THE MONTVALE CASE HAS NOT BEEN RULE UPON. 
          UM, WAITING FOR THAT HEARING TO, TO COME ABOUT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, NOW WE KNOW THAT THAT RULING IS, YOU KNOW, UM, HAS COME IN, UH, HAS LED ME TO, TO KIND OF RETHINK MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT. 
          I KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT COMFORTABLE FOR US HERE ON, AT THIS STATUS AND IT'S NOT COMFORTABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS, AS A WHOLE, BUT ALSO KNOW, UM, WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO IF WE DO HAVE TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH. 
          UH, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS FOR THIS CONSIDERATION OF THIS BODY FOR OUR FIRST, UH, OFFICIAL TOWN HALL, THAT AS THIS, AS WE AS IF THIS WERE TO, DEPENDING ON HOW SMOKE GOES, THE CD FOR THIS RESOLUTION, UH, THAT WE LOOK TO INVITE THE REDEVELOPER, UH, TO THAT FIRST TOWN HALL TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE FOR HOW THIS WOULD LOOK, WOULD WORK OUT, WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE, AS WELL AS WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TOWN TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC, TO ADDRESS, UM, INTERSECTIONS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THIS BODY THAT WE CONSIDER THAT FOR THAT FIRST TOWN HALL. 
          COULD, COULD THEY INCLUDE AN AUDIO VISUAL? I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. 
          I CAN'T OH, YEAH. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, COULD THEY INCLUDE AN AUDIO VISUAL? YEAH. 
          THE REQUEST BY, AND THEN WE'LL CALL THAT THE SPECIAL GUEST YES. 
          THAT WE'LL INVITE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND WHAT REQUIREMENTS WE WOULD HAVE OF THEM. 
          BY ALL MEANS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I'M IN FAVOR OF, AND AGAIN, I KNOW WE NEED TO VOTE AT THIS POINT, BUT JUST TO, TO SECOND RAY, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DEDICATING THE FIRST TIME HALL ON MARCH 17TH TO THIS MATTER. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS AND THEN THE, THE NUANCES OF THAT, WHO'S INVITED AND HOW THAT FLOWS. 
          BUT I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT WOULD WORK OUT WELL BECAUSE THE NEXT STEP IS TO DESIGNATE THE REDEVELOPER. 
          THE NEXT STEP IS TO, I I'M MEETING AFTER MEETING, OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, IS TO HAVE THE DRAFT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE PERFECT TIME THEN TO DISCUSS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS. 
          HAVE HIM, HE'LL HAVE THEM DOCUMENTS AND YOU'LL HAVE THINGS IN FRONT OF YOU THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MM-HMM . 
          DISCUSS INTELLIGENTLY. 
          GREAT. 
          CAN YOU CLARIFY MS ZONING, PLEASE? I AM NOT QUITE SURE. 
          YOU, YOU KEEP SAYING INCLUSION. 
          WE MAY REDEVELOPMENT. 
          CAN YOU CLARIFY PUBLIC COMMENT? THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          IT'S NOT PUBLIC COMMENT'S. 
          THE QUESTION. 
          AND, AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS, BUT WE, WE BOTH TWO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ALL OF US, BUT I KNOW I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND THE BENEFITS IT BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR VOORHIS VOICED HER OPINION. 
          WE ARE STANDING HERE SAYING THAT WE WILL HAVE INCLUSIONARY ZONING AS PART OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THIS MATTER BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION? I'LL JUST REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID. 
          I ALSO VOTED NO ON THE 16TH, BUT WITH THE NEW INFORMATION AND I'LL ECHO ALL YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UM, MAYOR, UM, THIS DEFINITELY KEEPS US IN CONTROL, SO I THINK IT'S THE BEST MOVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THAT NOTE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT RESOLUTION 33 20 26. 
          SECOND MS. WICKER ROLL PLEASE. 
          MS. SMORE? YES. 
          MR. COX? YES. 
          MS. MILLER? AYE. 
          MAYOR . 
          AYE. 
          YOUR, IS IT? AYE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE RESOLUTION IS ASKED. 
          WE'LL 
          [XV. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
NOW BE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION RESOLUTION S OH 1 2 0 20 26. 
          [03:25:03]
CONTRACT NEGOTIATION IS POLICE ASSOCI POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATION, SUPERIOR OFFICER ASSOCIATION NJSA TEN FOUR DASH 12 B FIVE. 
          WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE ARE NOW AN EXECUTIVE. 
          UM, WE WILL NEED APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 30 MINUTES. 
          20 MINUTES? YEAH. 
          20 MINUTES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, MOTION WILL, I'M SORRY. 
          ACTION WILL NOT BE TAKEN. 
          NO, NO, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WILLING. 
          YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY. 
          UH, WE'LL COME BACK AND RECONVENE THE OPEN PORTION ONCE EXECUTIVE IS FINISHED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE ON. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I RECONVENED THE OPEN PORTION OF THE MEETING AND NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION. 
          MOTION SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          MEETING ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          SO I CAN.
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