* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WELL, [00:00:01] WHAT WAS GOING ON? OKAY. [*This meeting is available without video*] [ Zoning Board on March 19, 2025. ] ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE MEDFORD TOWNSHIP ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING ON MARCH 19TH, 2025. UM, CAN I HAVE THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING STATEMENT, PLEASE? CERTAINLY. MADAM CHAIR, THIS MEETING'S HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN PUBLICS MEETINGS ACT. ADEQUATE NOTICE OF THIS MEETING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFIELD OF, UH, MEDFORD, SETTING FORTH A TIME PLACE AND MATTERS TO BE ADDRESSED. BACK TO YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, EVERYONE, PLEASE STAND FOR THE FLAG SEAT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES UNDER JUSTICE. PLEASE SILENCE ALL YOURSELF PLEASE. SORRY, SAYING NOW. ROLL. ROLL CALL PLEASE. CHAIRWOMAN UMBA. HERE. VICE CHAIR RICK. HERE. MR. HAMILTON? YEAH. MR. MORRISON. MS. ? HERE. MR. GENTIL? HERE. MR. ? HERE. MR. HACKETT? HERE. MR. TENOL. THANK YOU. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE? NOTHING TONIGHT. OKAY. UM, SO WE HAVE A FEW MEETING MINUTES AND WE'RE GOING TO, UM, APPROVE THEM INDIVIDUALLY. SO I WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 18TH, 2024. REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN. I'LL SECOND AT THAT. OH, SORRY. UH, CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN. RICK OBJECT. AYE, UH, CHAIRMAN MAN. AYE. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, NEXT IS THE JANUARY 15TH, 2025. REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. I'LL SECOND THAT. VICE CHAIR. HAM VICE CHAIR. WHERE? UH, SWITCH IT CHAIR FIRST. I'M SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. DID I DO SOMETHING? YOU SAID VICE CHAIR? AM I, I'M SORRY. CHAIRWOMAN. AYE. SURPRISE VICE CHAIRMAN RECORDS. AYE. MR. HAMILTON? AYE. MS. MS. BOOR? AYE. OKAY. UH, THE JANUARY 15TH, 2025 EXECUTIVE MEETING MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. I'LL SECOND MR. HAMILTON. AYE. VICE CHAIR MAY RECORDS? AYE. CHAIR MBO. AYE. MS. FORBES? AYE. THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, THE FEBRUARY 12TH, 2025. REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM. SECOND, DID YOU SAY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY? FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY 12TH. I, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE. I THINK THERE'S A TYPO. IT'S FEBRUARY 19TH WHEN I WAS AWAY. FEBRUARY 27TH. YEP. THERE YOU GO. SO THE FEBRUARY 22ND, 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS, THE 20 19TH? I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY 19TH. I I WAS WAY THROUGH THE 22ND 19TH. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. I WAS GONNA BRING UP THE CALENDAR. IS IT THE, DEFINITELY THE 19TH? YEAH, I WAS, IT WAS A MONTH AGO. THE SAME. I THINK IT WAS THE 19TH ACTUALLY BECAUSE IT WAS, YES IT WAS THE 19TH. OKAY. THE FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025. REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. SECOND CHAIRMAN UMBA AYE VICE CHAIRMAN RECORDS? AYE. MRS. GENTIL? AYE. MRS. ? AYE. THANK YOU. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. OKAY. UM, OKAY, MOVING ON TO MEMORIALIZATION OF RESOLUTIONS. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 11 ARTHUR AND KATHLEEN LISTON. 12 PIN OAK TRAIL BLOCK 30 0 7 LOT SEVEN APPROVAL OF THE BULL VARIANCE FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO CONSTRUCT A GARAGE SLASH ACCESSOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SECOND CHAIRMAN RECORDS. AYE. CHAIR . AYE. MR. GENTILE? AYE. MRS. AYE. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 12 RAQUEL RELO ONE PLEASANT MILL COURT LOCK 53 0 1 0.1 LOT 25 0 8 DENYING A BULK VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT A SIX FOOT VINYL FENCE IN THE FRONT YARD. HEAR THE MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SECOND VICE CHAIR OF RECORDS. AYE. CHAIRMAN UMBA. I'M SORRY CHAIRWOMAN. AYE. MR. ELLI? AYE. MRS. OVER LOPEZ? AYE. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH [00:05:01] 13 WILLIAM ANDES TO CLUBHOUSE LANE BLOCK 27 0 1 0.4 BLOCK 17 APPROVAL OF BULK VARIANCE FOR A SIDE YARD SETBACK TO ENCLOS THE SCREEN FOR MAKE A MOTION APPROVE. SECOND MOTION. ANY RECORDS? AYE. CHAIR UMBA. AYE. MS. O AYE. AND MR. AYE. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 14 JOSEPH KEKA, 45 TON'S ROAD BLOCK 66 0 1 0.1 LOT 35 APPROVAL OF BOTH VARIANCE TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE TO CONSTRUCT A FRONT PORCH WITH WALKWAY, REAR PATIO WITH WALKWAY SHED, FIRE PIT, HOT TUB AND DRIVEWAY EXPANSIONS ON THE QUESTION. WHAT WAS THE LATEST UPDATE FOR THAT ONE? SURE. IS IT JUST A TYPO? THERE WAS TWO TYPOS. ONE WAS TO CORRECT THE SPELLING OF THE ATTORNEY'S NAME AND ALSO THERE WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IMPOSED BY THE FIRST RESOLUTION WHERE THE APPLICANT SAID THAT AS A CONDITION NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WILL BE, UM, INSTALLED, WILL BE CONSTRUCTED, UM, AS PART OF THE DESIGN OF THE PROPERTY. BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE LIGHTING IN THE PAVERS AND SOME SMALL LITTLE LIGHTS. SO WHAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IS TO GO TO CONSTRUCT ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BACKYARD AND NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE, SEE THEM ON THE APPROVAL. RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO THAT WAS THE CLARIFICATION AND COUNSEL GAVE IT TODAY TO ME AROUND THREE O'CLOCK. SO WE TURNED IT AROUND AND SENT IT RIGHT BACK OUT. THAT'S FINE. I JUST DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO UPDATE IT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE 'CAUSE IT WAS, YEAH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SECOND CHAIRMAN RECORD. AYE. CHAIRWOMAN NUMBER AYE. MR. GENTIL? AYE. A MRS. AYE. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 15 ALEX GO. 13 WHITE PINE DRIVE BLOCK 27 0 9. LOT NINE APPROVE OF A BULK VARIANCE FOR A SIDE YARD SETBACK TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND STORY EDITION. MOTION. NO PROOF. SECOND VICE CHAIRMAN. RICKS AYE. CHAIRWOMAN NABA AYE. MR. ELLI AYE. AND MR. AYE. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 16 GARY MERCY, 38 SUNSET TRAIL BLOCK 50 0 4 LOT THREE APPROVAL OF BULK VARIANCE, BULK VARIANCES FOR A REAR YARD SETBACK AND EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM BUILDING AND LOCK COVERAGES TO CONSTRUCT AN 18 BY 12 EDITION. MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND VICE CHAIRMAN OF RECORDS. AYE CHAIRMAN AYE. MS. TAYLOR AYE. AND MRS. AYE. THANK YOU. RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 52 A MCCAFFERTY 16 ROBINSON ROAD BLOCK 57 0 6 BLOCK THREE APPROVING A ZONING INTERPRETATION OF SECTION FIVE 19 D ONE AND SUBSEQUENTLY SEVERAL BULK VARIANCES FOR FRONT SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACKS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON AN UNDERSIZED LOT AMENDMENT IS TO CLARIFY VARIANCES GRANTED FOR BUILDING AND LOT COVERAGES. MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. SECOND. MR. ELLI CAN SECOND HE WASN'T HERE. OH, SORRY. ANY OTHER SECOND? WHO WAS AVAILABLE? MSHE? I WASN'T HERE. ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IS CHAIRMAN OMB FEBRUARY IN ALABAMA. LESLIE CHAIR UMBA. GO AHEAD. VICE CHAIRMAN RECORDS. MS. BHE. I'M SORRY, NOT MS. BORHEES. UM, THAT'S IT. SO YOU SECOND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND PERFECT. WHO'S HERE? SORRY. CHAIRWOMAN. AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN RECORDS. AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS FIRST APPLICATION OF THE NIGHT IS EUGENE AND THERESA WELSH 20 NORTH LAKESIDE DRIVE, WEST BLOCK 31 0 2, LOT 76 SEEKING BULK VARIANCES FOR ENCROACHING INTO THE REAR AND SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SWIMMING POOL. YOU CAN COME ON UP. YEP. ALL RIGHT, SIR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. EUGENE WELSH. YOU HAVE TO SPELL IT PLEASE. YOUR LAST NAME. W-E-L-S-H. AND YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES. BACK TO YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. UM, HI. HI. YOU CAN JUST TELL US ABOUT YOUR APPLICATION PLEASE. UM, WE, WE JUST MOVED BACK TO MEDFORD IN NOVEMBER. WE LIVED IN SPRINGHOUSE, UH, FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND MOVED FOR IN MORRISTOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT TO BE CLOSER TO THE GRANDKIDS. NOW WE'RE MOVING BACK TO MEDFORD. I RETIRED AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA GET THE GRANDKIDS OVER THE SUMMER MOST OF THE TIME, SO WE'D LIKE A PLACE FOR THEM TO COME AND STAY. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN VIRTUAL COMMUNITY, THE BEACH IS KIND OF AROUND THE CORNER AND HAVE TWO, FOUR AND ONE AND A HALF YEAR OLD GRANDKIDS THAT WE NEED SIX PEOPLE TO WATCH. SO THIS WAY [00:10:01] THEY'RE FENCED IN AND, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND MORE TIME THERE IN THE HOUSE WITH THEM. SO IT'S A, UM, POOL AND A POOL DECK, RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? IT'S A, IT'S A DECK TOO WITH THE POOL? NO, IT'S JUST LIKE THE PAVERS AROUND LIKE A U OKAY. SO PIECES SO'S MORE PAVERS ON THE BACK OF THE RECTANGLE. AND THEN THERE'S PAVERS THAT WOULD, UM, ALMOST MAKE A U AROUND THE RECTANGLE LIKE THAT. OKAY. WITH THE POOL. AND THEN THERE'D NATURALLY BE A WALKWAY. THERE'S ALREADY, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, A CEMENT WALKWAY THAT'S UP AGAINST THE HOUSE THAT HAS THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON IT. SO WE WOULD REMOVE THAT CEMENT AND THEN MOVE THE WALKWAY IN FRONT. WE WOULD KEEP THE AIR CONDITIONERS ON THE CEMENT PADS THEY'RE ON, AND THEN MOVE THE WALKWAY JUST IN THE FRONT. OKAY. OF THAT, JUST TO THE SIDE OF THAT. AND DID YOU RECEIVE, UH, MS. TAYLOR'S LETTER? I DID. OKAY. UM, SO YOU HAD AN EXISTING SHED AND PATIO AREA THAT YOU WERE PLANNING TO REMOVE AGAIN. SO THE SHED IS THERE OKAY. THE SHED'S THERE? YEAH. AND YOU'RE NOT REMOVING IT? NO. OKAY. WE WENT FROM A, WE'RE DOWNSIZING, SO I DIDN'T REALIZE I NEED THE SPACE, BUT THERE IS A FAIRLY LARGE WALKWAY THAT COMES OFF THE BACK RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE HOUSE, ALMOST LIKE AN HOURGLASS, AND THEN GOES TO THE SHED THAT WOULD BE COMING OUT, AND THEN THE WALKWAY WOULD JUST KIND OF GO AROUND THE HOUSE TO THE POOL. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE NO LONGER REMOVING THE SHED, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. IS THAT ON THE, IT IS IN MS. TAYLOR'S REVIEW LETTER. SO I JUST WANT TO PERFECTLY CLEAR. AND ARE YOU REMOVING ANY TREES? WHAT'S THAT? DO YOU HAVE TO REMOVE ANY TREES? NO. OKAY. WE, I ALREADY GOT A PERMIT, UM, TO REMOVE THE TREES IN THE FRONT THAT WERE HANGING OVER THE HOUSE. MM-HMM . AND THEY SAID WE COULD JUST TRIM THE EASEMENT TREES. OKAY. SO THE TREES THAT YOU HAD REMOVED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH? NO. OKAY. NO, THERE WERE, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT TREESE COVERED AN IVY ALL THE WAY UP AND WE WENT TO THE TREE. PEOPLE CAME OUT, THREE OF 'EM WERE ALREADY CHOKED OUT, PROBABLY 30 FEET UP. UM, SO THEY WERE ROTTED OUT AND THEN THEY CHECKED THE OTHER ONES AND WE CALLED AND MADE SURE IT WAS OKAY. AND IT WAS JUST THE ONES WITH THE IVY. OKAY. AND, UM, ARE YOU PROPOSING ANY LIGHTING, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WITH, UM, NO. NO. JUST I, I GUESS LIGHTING WITHIN THE POOL, NOTHING. I IMAGINE THERE'LL BE A LIGHT IN THE POOL, RIGHT? I HAVEN'T LOOKED IN THAT DETAIL, BUT THE ONLY LIGHTS OUTSIDE ARE AT THE SLIDING GLASS DOOR AND THEY'RE LIKE PORCH KIND OF LIGHTS. OKAY. THERE'S NO KIND OF SPOTLIGHT OR ANYTHING ON THE POOL. OKAY. UM, DOES THE, ANYONE ELSE FROM BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. IT SEATS HERE IN NUMBER TWO, REMOVAL OF A PORTION OF THE CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY. DRIVEWAY. ARE YOU HAVING A PORTION OF YOUR DRIVEWAY CHANGED? SO THIS SPOT I SEE IT. NO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. I MEAN, THE DRIVEWAY IS ASPHALT, IT LOOK LIKE IN THE PICTURE. OKAY. YEAH. MAYBE MS. TAYLOR, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE RUN NUMBER TWO, THE RUNOFF CONCERNS? YES. I, I THINK, UM, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, THE LOCK COVERAGE IS PERMITTED TO BE 30% AND SINCE, UH, THE SHED IS NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED. IS THAT WHAT YOU CLARIFIED IT? IT IS NOT. SO THAT ADDS A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF, OF, OF, UH, COVERAGE. AND IT ALSO, UM, IT'S IN A, IT'S NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY. WHAT'S THAT? THE SHED. IT'S NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY. YEAH. IT'S INSIDE OF THE EASEMENT, NOT A, ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN, IT'S NOT. CAN I STEP AWAY MS. ? THAT ONE RIGHT THERE IS RIGHT WITHIN THAT LINE. SO THE MONUMENTS HERE, I'M, I'M SORRY. THIS SHED IS THE SHED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S ON THE SHED. THAT'S THE EASEMENT, ISN'T IT? OH, I DON'T, THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE SHED. SO THAT'S A POOL EQUIPMENT SHED? NO, IT'S JUST LIKE AN OUTDOOR SHED. ISN'T THAT MY PROPERTY LINE? THIS LINE RIGHT HERE? NO, SIR. THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY LINE. SO I THINK WE'RE TR TRYING TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. OKAY. UM, THERE'S A SHED THAT'S SHOWN HERE. HERE. OH, THAT WOULD BE THE POOL EQUIPMENT? YES, THAT'S WHERE THE SHED IS, BUT IT'S INSIDE. WE PUSHED IT INSIDE THE MONUMENT. IT IS NOT IN THE EASEMENT AT ALL. OKAY. SO, SO YOU'RE RETAINING THE SHED. SO THOSE VARI THERE ARE VARIANCES REQUIRED FOR THAT SHED FOR SIDE YARD SETBACK. WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN [00:15:01] APPROVED OR WHEN THE SHED WAS BUILT? I HAVE NO IDEA. WE DIDN'T LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO REMOVE IT ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION. OKAY. I THINK WE DID THE APPLICATION RIGHT WHEN WE MOVED IN. UM, RIGHT WHEN WE MOVED IN, I DIDN'T REALIZE I WOULD NEED THE SPACE, BUT THE SHED IS NOT IN THE EASEMENT AT ALL. WE MOVED IT ABOUT THREE INCHES INSIDE THE EASEMENT. IT WAS OVER THE, THE MONUMENT, THE CORNER MONUMENT, AND WE ROLLED IT FORWARD. IT WAS OVER THE REAR SETBACK LINE OR THE REAR PROPERTY LINE? OR WAS IT OVER A SIDE LINE? NO, IT'S, IT'S OVER THE REAR SETBACK LINE. REAR SET. ACCORDING TO THIS DRAWING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SHED THAT'S IN THE BACK, THAT'S GRAYED OUT. IT'S SHIFTED OVER THE PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, IT'S OVER THE PROPERTY LINE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISTANCE IS. MAY, IT MAY HAVE BEEN FOUR INCHES OR SO AND WE ROLLED IT BACK IN THE MONUMENT BECAUSE WE WERE DRAWING OUT THE FENCE. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE THE SHED THERE AND THEN THE SHED IS THERE AND THE SHED IS ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT IN THE EASEMENT. MM-HMM . AND THEN YOU HAVE A POOL EQUIPMENT. WHAT IS THE SHED? THAT'S A LITTLE, IS THAT A CONCRETE BLOCK OR IS IT IT WOULD BE ON A PAD LIKE THE FILTER AND THE RIGHT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT. CLEANER TO THE SIDE OF IT. OKAY. OR IN FRONT OF IT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FROM THE HOUSE. RIGHT. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE SIDE OF IT. YEAH. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SHED, IT WOULD BE RIGHT TO THE RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. SO MS. TAYLOR THEN BACK TO, OKAY. SO YES, SO IT APPEARS IT'S A VERY NOMINAL AMOUNT OF COVERAGE. IT'S 0.0825%. SO IT'S SLIGHTLY OVER 54% NOW. 54.8, UM, OH OH EIGHT. SO IT'S NOT MUCH. BUT THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR THAT SHED, APPARENTLY THAT HAS BEEN MOVED. IT APPEARS THAT IT IS EITHER ON THE PROPERTY LINE OR VERY CLOSE TO IT ON BOTH THE REAR AND THE SIDE LOT LINES. MM-HMM . IT'S REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THOSE LINES. AND SO HE IS LOOKING AT LESS THAN ONE FOOT. I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW. HOW FAR DO YOU, ARE YOU AWARE HOW FAR OFF THE PROPERTY LINE PUSHED TO SHUT? I JUST WALKED THE PROPERTY. I ASSUMED BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE SURVEY, BUT THAT THEY GOT APPROVAL FOR IT WHEN THEY PUT IT UP. WOULD, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT THE SHED INTO A CONFORMING LOCATION? SO IT WOULD BE FIVE FEET OFF OF THE SIDE YARD SETBACK? MICHELLE SHAKING HER HEAD. I DON'T, FIVE FEET. I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF I, IF I DO FIVE FEET, I'D HAVE TO MOVE THE POOL EQUIPMENT FIVE FEET BECAUSE OF WHERE THAT IS. AND THEN I'M ALL THE WAY UP NEAR THE GATE. AND THE PAVERS THIS LOT IS, IS, UM, IS UNDERSIZED? YES, MA'AM. IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S REQUIRED TO BE 14,000 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S ABOUT 12 FIVE. IT'S 12 4 83. SO IT'S AN UNDERSIZED LOT. AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATE. UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS TO THE CHAIR'S POINT IS ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY ISSUES WITH WATER SETTLING ANYWHERE IN ON YOUR PROPERTY OR THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY? NO. I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANYONE'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WHEN WE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WE CAN TRY TO ASSESS THAT. RIGHT. UM, WELL WATER, WELL THE GROUND I WILL TELL YOU IS ALMOST JUST SAND IN THE BACKYARD. UM, SO YOU WOULD SAY IT'S VERY WELL DRAINED ALWAYS. IT DRAINS RIGHT IN MM-HMM . AND ALL OF, UM, THEY HAD RUNAWAYS FROM THE HOUSE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE FRONT SLOPES TO THE STREET, WE GET NO SAND WATER WHATSOEVER ANYWHERE. UM, EVEN IN THE HEAVY RAINS, THERE'S A POPUP DRAIN FROM THE ONE CORNER GUTTER AND THE WATER'S GONE BY THE TIME IT COMES OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK OUR PLAN IS WE BRING IT ALL, I THINK WE'RE BRINGING IT TO THE STREET. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, UM, TO YOUR, TO YOUR QUESTION, MS. VORGE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, POTENTIALLY REMOVING A PART OF THE DRIVEWAY TO FURTHER REDUCE THE, THE, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, I DON'T, I, IT WOULD BE A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF CHANGE. UM, AND UH, WHEN I SPOKE TO MR. KNOLL ABOUT IT, HE INDICATED THAT HE THOUGHT PROBABLY IT ACTUALLY ALLOWED THE WATER TO FLOW ON ONTO THE STREET AND, AND INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. UM, AND OF COURSE IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT THAT GOES TO BIRCHWOOD LAKE OR NOT. I BELIEVE IT DOES, BUT I, YEAH, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IS CONNECTED TO THE LAKE. I HAVE A DRAIN IN MY DRIVEWAY. UM, SO, AND, AND HE REMOVED TREES, SO HE WOULD'VE HAD TO, TO DO THAT WITH, WITH THE STAFF. UM, AND I GUESS THAT WAS THAT, WAS THAT DONE WITH STAFF? A TREE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT? I'M NOT REPAIR. I, I HAD NO. OKAY. [00:20:01] OKAY. I WAS TOLD, UM, WHEN I, I DIDN'T HAVE TO REPLACE THE TREES BECAUSE I WAS, THEY WERE, WELL, A COUPLE WERE A DANGER TO THE HOUSE AND THE OTHER ONES WERE DEAD. BUT WE ARE REPLACING THOSE TREES REGARDLESS, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT UNTIL THE POOL'S DONE SO THEY CAN GET IN THE BACKYARD. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WEIGH ALL THAT, I SUPPOSE. MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE FROM THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC? NO. OKAY. IF YOU JUST WANNA STEP TO THE SIDE SO I CAN OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR WHAT'S THAT? IF YOU JUST WANNA STEP, JUST SIT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FRONT, UM, WHILE I OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A AYE. OKAY. IS ANYONE HERE, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE APPLICATION? YOU CAN COME FORWARD SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION TO CLOSE? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. YOU CAN COME BACK UP. MADAM SHERIFF, I JUST MAY BRIEFLY INTERRUPT. THE ONE THING THAT WE JUST HAVE TO IRON OUT IN THE EVENT THAT THE BOARD WAS INCLINED TO GRANT THE APPLICATION IS THE LOCATION OF THE SHED AND THE VARIANCE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. RIGHT? UM, FIVE FEET IS REQUIRED, BUT FIVE FEET IS NOT POSSIBLE. SO IT'S, WE GOTTA JUST FIGURE OUT HOW FAR OFF THE PROPERTY LINE IS IT OR WHAT CAN YOU ESTIMATE? YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK OF THE SHED. I DIDN'T, WHEN, WHEN THEY ACTUALLY DID THIS, WE HAD LITERALLY JUST MOVED IN TO GET IT STARTED AND WE WERE GONNA TAKE THE SHED DOWN AND THEN LEFT IT UP. BUT WE ROLLED IT ONTO THE LINE. 'CAUSE IT WAS IN THE EASEMENT. IT WAS OVER MY PROPERTY LINE. DO YOU THINK IT'S WITHIN A, A FOOT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE? NO. NO. IT WAS, IF IT WAS THREE INCHES OVER THE PROPERTY, I MEAN THE, THE MONUMENT, IF IT'S HERE, IT WAS MAYBE TWO INCHES OVER THE MONUMENT. SO MY PROPERTY LINE IS DEAD CENTER IN THE MONUMENT. SO PROBABLY THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR INCHES TOTAL JUST PIPES AND ROLLED IT. SO IT'S THREE OR FOUR INCHES INTO YOUR PROPERTY LINE NOW? YEAH. TODAY? YEAH, BECAUSE I, MY PLAN IS TO DO A FENCE. SO WE MOVED IT FORWARD SO THE FENCE COULD GO IN FOR THE POOL. IS THAT A DIFFERENT ISSUE? IT'S STILL EMBARRASSED. THE SIDE YARD IS THE FENCE. IS THE FENCE ALLOWED TO BE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE LIKE THAT TOO? IT'S NOT . I'M, I'M, I I WOULD BE BUTTING UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCES THAT ARE LITERALLY RIGHT ON THE MONUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. SO IT GOES STRAIGHT ACROSS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, STAFF WILL SAY TO GIVE SPACE SO THAT YOU CAN MANEUVER AROUND THE FENCE WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN. 'CAUSE ARGUABLY IF YOU'RE PUTTING A FENCE IN, YOU COULD BE ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY OR, OKAY. SO THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT YOUR SHED HAS TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN YOU NEED TO SEEK A VARIANCE, WHICH YOU'RE HERE RIGHT NOW. SO YOU CAN JUST TELL US THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEEK A VARIANCE FOR THE SHED TO REMAIN WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEEK A VARIANCE FOR THE SHED TO REMAIN RIGHT WHERE IT IS. OTHERWISE I HAVE TO TAKE DOWN MORE. I DON'T EVEN HAVE, AND I'LL GO BACK, I DON'T HAVE FIVE FEET BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE TREES, UH, AS WELL IN BETWEEN WHERE THE POOL EQUIPMENT WOULD BE AND THE SHED WOULD BE. SO I'D HAVE TO TAKE THEM DOWN THE DESERT IN THE BACKYARD AND THE TREES. WE DON'T WANNA TAKE DOWN TREES. NO . OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE JUST IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, THE THREE OR FOUR INCHES OFF THE PROPERTY LINE. RIGHT. IT WOULD REMAIN IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION. I MEAN, I COULD PUSH IT IN A, A FOOT IF YOU WANTED ME TO, A FOOT AND A HALF. IF YOU FEEL THAT GAP, YOU WANT A WALK IN GAP BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE STRUCTURE. WELL, SO ARGUABLY, SIR, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, LET'S SAY YOU WANTED TO REPAIR THE, THE SHED. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO ONTO SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY RIGHT. OR TAKE DEFENSE DOWN THE EASEMENT. WELL, EITHER WAY. RIGHT. IF IT'S FOUR INCHES OR SIX INCHES AWAY, YOU CAN'T STAND IN SIX INCHES AND NAIL A BOARD ON IT. YES. SO THAT SIDE OF THE SHED WOULD BE THE EASEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE THE TOWNSHIP'S EASEMENT. CORRECT. NOT INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY. AND WHEN YOU PUT THAT FENCE UP FOR THE POOL, RIGHT? YEAH. THEN YOU'VE GOT NO WAY TO DO ANY REPAIRS ON THE BACK OF THE FENCE OR, OR THE BACK OF THE SHED OR ANYTHING, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 'CAUSE YOU'RE, THERE'S JUST NO ROOM AT ALL. SO WHAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DISTANCE IN BETWEEN THAT FENCE AND YOUR SHED? WELL, THE RIGHT AMOUNT FOR HIM WOULD BE HOW MUCH CAN YOU, CAN YOU MOVE IT A FOOT, TWO FOOT? I WON'T BE LIVING THERE WHEN THE SHED NEEDS REPAIRS. IT'S NEWER VINYL SIDE VISIT ME IN THE CEMETERY. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO A QUESTION. HOW MUCH CAN YOU MOVE THE SHED? YEAH, IF YOU, I MEAN, IF YOU SAY A FOOT, I COULD PROBABLY DO A FOOT. YEAH. I MEAN I'M, I'M JUST THE, I'M TRYING TO BE UNREALISTIC. I I COULD AT LEAST DO 10 INCHES. UM, YEAH. AND THEN I HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. 'CAUSE THEN TECHNICALLY THE TREE IS GONNA BE PROBABLY THAT CLOSE TO THE SHED AND I CAN'T PREPARE THAT PART OF THE SHED. THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. I [00:25:01] MEAN, I'M KIND OF IN THE SAME SPOT. IT'S AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE WHERE YOU CAN WALK BEHIND IT. PLENTY OF ROOM. I MEAN, CAN WE SAY APPROXIMATELY ONE FOOT OR DO WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC? AT LEAST A FOOT. AT LEAST A FOOT. OKAY. WE COULD DO THAT. AT LEAST FOOT PLUS OR MINUS AN INCH OR TWO. THAT'S THE MINI RIGHT? OKAY. NOBODY'S, IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY? AND THE SIDE YARD. AND THE SIDE YARD? WELL, IT WOULD BE FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. SO IT'S REAR AND SIDE? BOTH. OH, IT'S, IT'S, I THOUGHT HE WAS COMPLYING WITH THE REAR YARD. HE SAID THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE. THE SIDE YARD. HOW FAR IS IT FROM SIDE? OH, HE'S NOT COMPLIANT. OKAY. WHAT'S THE REAR YARD THERE? WHAT'S, WHAT'S IT'S BOTH REAR YARDS. NO YARDS ARE REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FEET. OKAY. THE SHED HAS TO BE FIVE FEET. IT IS NOT, AND THE SHED IS ON THE PROPERTY LINE AS WELL FOR THE REAR. SO RIGHT NOW HE SAID THAT THE SHED IS AT THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND HE'S WILLING TO MOVE IT. THE BOARD IS DISCUSSING THAT WITH HIM. THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS THAT THE SIDE YARD SET BACK IS ALSO TOO CLOSE. IT'S NOT FIVE FEET AWAY. HOW FAR IS THAT? RIGHT NOW? CURRENTLY I CAN WALK BEHIND IT. I MEAN, THAT'S TWO FOOT FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, A FOOT, TWO FOOT FOOT AND A HALF. TWO. I MEAN, I CAN WALK LIKE DOWN IT. SO 18 INCHES. OKAY. AT LEAST 18 INCHES FROM THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AND AT AT LEAST A FOOT FROM, I'M TRYING. ALL RIGHT. . I'M TRYING MEAN I'M TRYING. I'M WORKING. I'M TRYING. BUT I, I, BUT BY MOVING AND I'M IN THE SAME POSITION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SHED. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE DEALING WITH A, A, A TREE TO WORK AROUND VERSUS A FENCE. AND UH, UM, WHAT IF I, WHAT IF I TOOK THE FENCE TO THE CORNER OF THE SHED AND THEN BROUGHT THE FENCE OUT FROM THE OTHER CORNER OF THE SHED AND HAD NO FENCE NEXT TO THE SHED? I MEAN, LITERALLY THE SHED IS INCHES FROM THE MONUMENT. SO ALLS I GOTTA DO IS PUT A POST THERE TO THE CORNER OF THE SHED. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENT BECAUSE OF SAFETY ISSUES. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. OKAY. KEEP THE FACT, I MEAN, YEAH. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS BASED ON WHAT'S CONSTRUCTION SAYS. IT HAS TO BE LIKE FOR SAFETY. I DON'T WANT TO, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. I DON'T EITHER. AND I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GET MY FOOT IN THAT WATER FOR SURE. SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE 18 INCHES ON THE ONE SIDE WHERE IT'S IS CURRENTLY ALREADY AND YOU'RE A MINIMUM ONE FOOT FROM THE REAR, IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT, SO I I, I, I CAN MOVE IT. OKAY. AND I'M KIND OF GETTING CLOSE TO WHERE I'M WITH THAT, MAKING MOTION. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER VARIANCES THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH THAT WAS JUST THE SHED? I ASSUMED IT WAS ON THE SURVEY. SOMEBODY GOT APPROVAL FOR IT WHEN THEY DID THE SURVEY OR IT WOULD'VE COME BACK. SO I REALLY DIDN'T, I THOUGHT I WAS DOING RIGHT BY BRINGING IT ON MY PROPERTY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. YEAH. THAT SHED SETBACKS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE THE EIGHTIES. SO, SO WHOEVER BUILT, I JUST MOVED IN. I'M THERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR AGAIN. , UM, YEAH, WHOEVER BUILT THE SHED APPARENTLY DIDN'T GO FOR THE PERMIT, BUT DID A SURVEY WAS ON THERE. THAT'S I'M GUESSING. YEAH. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO OUTLINE THE VARIANCES? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL IF I DID THAT? UM, WELL, I'M OKAY WITH WHERE THEY ARE BASED ON YOUR LETTER. AS LONG AS, OKAY, SO THE ONLY THEY GOT ADJUSTED ONE DID, THE PERCENTAGE WENT TO 40. I JUST PUT IT ON FOR, FOR, WE'LL JUST SAY IT'S 54%. 54% OR 55%. SORRY. UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, JUST THE SETBACKS OF THE POOL AT THE REAR AND THE SIDE AND THE REAR AND THE POOL EQUIPMENT IS ALSO REQUIRED TO BE SET BACK APPROPRIATELY AND IT'S NOT. SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT ON MY CORRESPONDENCE, RIGHT? YEAH. WHICH WAS BRINGING ME BACK TO THAT SAME QUESTION. WHY ARE WE MAKING NOTE OF FIVE FOOT VERSUS FOUR FOOT ON THE SIDE YARD? AND I GUESS THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT. TWO LOCATIONS. NEVERMIND. I THOUGHT IT WAS REAR YARD EQUIPMENT AND REAR YARD POOL DECK. WELL, FIVE FOOT AND 12 FOOT. WHY WERE WE BRINGING THIS? WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST NOTING THAT, UM, THE EQUIPMENT IS ALL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHY THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT PLACES? I GUESS IT'S ON CONCRETE. YEAH, IT'S ON A DIFFERENT, THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. TOTALLY DIFFERENT. THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT SPOTS. I, I GOTCHA. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. FOR MOTION? MM-HMM . I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT WITH THE, I'LL SECOND THAT THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, AS WELL AS THE SETBACKS THAT ARE IN MS. TAYLOR'S LETTER AND THE NEW IMPROVED PERCENTAGES AT 54 POINT 55%. JUST, WE RATHER IT TO 54 A SECOND AGO. NO, IT WAS ALREADY UP TO 54. IT'S 55. IT'S 54 POINT, BUT IT'S 55. I'LL SECOND THAT. IS THAT, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU? OKAY. YOU GOT 'EM ALL? I GOT IT. I DON'T HAVE IT ALL. CAN YOU JUST MAKE SURE THAT I'M, UH, I NEED TO MOVE THE SHED. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN SIR? 18 INCHES FROM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO SIDE, IT'S ALREADY 18 INCHES FROM THE SIDE. SO WE WERE OKAY WITH THAT. WE HAVE TO MOVE IT OFF FROM THE, FROM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. POINT FOUR FOOT AT LEAST A FOOT. [00:30:01] AT LEAST FOOT ONE FOOT. AT LEAST ONE FOOT. I'LL GET IT AS FAR AS I CAN. AND HIRE A SKINNY ENGINEER. WHEN YOU NEED REPAIR, I GOTTA BRING IN A FORKLIFT. I GOTTA BRING IN A, WELL WHEN THEY DO THE POOL, THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING THERE. THAT'S IT. THEY'LL HAVE AN EXCAVATOR. THEY WON'T HAVE A FORKLIFT. LIFT UP YOUR SHED, BUT, ALRIGHT. OKAY. ROLL CALL. YOU READY? YEAH. YOU SURE? . MR. HAMILTON? AYE. MS. BOISE? AYE. MR. ELLI? AYE. MR. ? AYE. MR. HACKETT? AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN RICK AYE. AND CHAIRWOMAN AYE. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. THANKS. I'LL HAVE IT DONE BEFORE. THIS HAS TO GO TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR APPROVAL NEXT MONTH ANYWAY. SO SAYS HE HAVE TO WAIT. YEAH. PARDON ME. HEARD WAIT UNTIL NEXT MONTH IN THE BEGINNING UNTIL IT GETS APPROVED. SO I DID THE VARIANCE APPROVAL. RIGHT. SO I'LL PREPARE, I'LL PREPARE A RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT MEETING. THAT RESOLUTION WILL BE MEMORIALIZED AND IT'LL OUTLINE ALL THESE VARIANCES AND ALL THE LOCATIONS WHERE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE. OKAY. AND FROM THERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE PURSUING YOUR, YOUR PERMITS OFF OF. OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT'S THIS MEETING THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF WHATEVER CORRECT? YES. OF THE NEXT MONTH. I DON'T NEED TO BE THERE FOR THAT ONE. NO. OKAY. YEAH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. WISH THE BEST. GOOD LUCK, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. SORRY, I'M GET MY LOOK UP HERE. OKAY. NEXT APPLICATION. ERIC HENDERSON. FOUR NAUGHTY OAK DRIVE BLOCK 32 0 2 POINT 19. LOT 15 SEEKING BULK VARIANCES FOR ENCROACHING INTO THE REAR YARD SETBACK, EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM SIZE ALLOWABLE AND THE NUMBER OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES PERMITTED. SIR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM AND TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. HARRY HENDERSON. H-E-N-D-E-R-S-O-N. AND YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. I'M BACK TO YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. UH, TELL US ABOUT YOUR APPLICATION PLEASE. UH, SO I APPLIED, WELL I, UH, BOUGHT A HOUSE, UH, ALMOST TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS A STRUCTURE ON THERE ALREADY. IT WAS A 12 BY 20 FORKLIFT. AND, UM, SO I DIDN'T APPLY FOR IT, I BOUGHT IT. IT WAS LIKE THAT. SO I'M NOW APPLYING FOR THE BULK VARIANCES TO HAVE IT THERE . AND, UM, I GOT THE LETTER FROM, UH, MS. TAYLOR. AND UM, SHE OUTLINED, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING I GUESS ON THE, THE BIG FANCY PAPERWORK THERE, . AND UM, SO, UM, THERE WAS A SHED THERE ALSO. IT WAS PUT THERE I THINK IN 2000 1609, I FORGET. OKAY. THERE WAS A GREEN MEDFORD, YOU KNOW, PERMISSION TO PUT A SHED THERE. UM, I APPLIED FOR A FENCE, GOT GREEN CASE OF PAPER FOR THE FENCE. ALSO JUST A SWIFT FENCE. FANCY THAT WAS, UH, SOME OF IT WAS PREEXISTING ALREADY. I JUST KIND OF TOOK OUT THE ROTTED PIECES AND PUT OTHER ONES BACK IN THE HER THAT IS THERE, IT'S A CEDAR , UH, ON A CONCRETE SLAB. UM, THE CONCRETE SLAB ITSELF THAT IS ON MEASURED EXACTLY THIS 13 FEET BY 21 FEET. UM, THE OVERHANG FROM THE ROOF FROM PITCH IS EXACTLY ONE. BLESS, BLESS. UM, THERE ARE TREES IN THE BACKYARD RIGHT NOW AS WELL. UM, I'M, I'M PUTTING MORE TREES THERE. I USUALLY CIRCLE, UH, YOU KNOW, ON ROOF, 73 CIRCLE WHATEVER ON SEVEN CHIP . THAT'S ALL I SNOW IN. BUT, UH, WE HAVE TREES ON ORDER ALREADY TO REPLACE MORE TREES. UH, WHEN I WAS THERE IT WAS JUST KIND OF AN EMPTY, UH, AREA. THERE ARE THAT 12 TREES ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. UH, THERE'S A HUGE MAPLE, ABOUT THREE FOOT DIAMETER TRUNK ON THERE, ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET HIGH, THAT TREE. AND UH, THERE'S SOME GUM TREES ON THERE. HOLLY TREES ARE ON THERE ALSO. AND, UH, I PLAN ON PUTTING, UH, ADDITIONAL TREES IN. THERE'LL PUT, UH, WILLOW IN THERE. I'M GONNA PUT A COUPLE OF, UH, PAPER BIRCHES AND WHITE BS. AND THEN, UH, SOME NATIVE FROM THE AREA AND SOME ALSO. UM, DID ANY MS. TAYLOR, DID ANY OF THESE PROPOSED TREES LIKE HAVE TO, UM, SO THIS WAS A SITUATION WHERE, UM, MR. HENDERSON MOVED IN AND THE HER WAS THERE, RIGHT? SO IF A PRIOR OWNER TOOK TREES DOWN, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. MM-HMM . UM, SO IN A GOOD FAITH EFFORT, MR. HENDERSON HAS SAID HE WOULD PUT SOME TREES UP BECAUSE HE LIKES TREES APPARENTLY. THAT'S WHY. YEAH. THAT'S MY INTENTION ANYWAY. PUT MORE TREES IN THERE. I DON'T WANNA TAKE TREES AWAY, . UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. I DON'T REALLY KNOW REALLY WHAT ELSE TO DO. OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY NOT HIS FAULT. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE FINE WITH THE, HIS TESTIMONY AND THE YES. TYPES OF TREES ABSOLUTELY. THAT HE'S PROPOSING. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YES. AND, AND THERE ARE, THERE'S [00:35:01] ALSO, UM, I DID SOME MORE RESEARCH. I SAW A PIECE OF GRAY PIPE STICKING OUT THE GROUND RIGHT BY THE SLAB AND I ACTUALLY DUG DOWN AND ABOUT 23 AND A QUARTER INCHES DOWN THERE WAS CONDUIT THERE. SO EVENTUALLY I JUST PUT LIGHTING INTO THE PHOTOS SINCE IT'S ALREADY THE CONDUITS THERE AND IT GOES FROM THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO THE, UH, I GUESS KIND OF CLOSE TO THE PANEL THAT'S INSIDE THE GARAGE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SLAB ITSELF. UH, I DID CONTACT ATTRITION ALSO. I SAID IF I GET MY HERE SOME KIND OF LOW VOLTAGE LANDSCAPE LIGHTING, WE THAT FOR PROFESSIONALS I GUESS. YES. AND WE WOULD HAVE A PREFERENCE AS FAR AS WHAT LIGHTING YOU PUT. AND THEN THE PORCH OFF OF MY EYE SLIDING GLASS DOOR AND THERE'S ON THE SURVEY FROM LIKE 2009, IT SAID THAT THERE WAS A COVERED STRUCTURE THERE. THERE IS A COVERED STRUCTURE THERE. UM, I GUESS SOMEBODY TOOK IT DOWN ON FRIDAY AND PURCHASED THE HOME. UM, HOWEVER, I DID EXTEND PAPERS. THERE WAS A CONCRETE SLAB THERE AND I PUT PAPERS OVER TOP OF THAT AND UM, AND THEN I HAVE A ROUND AREA ON A PATIO SITTING AREA, UH, DIAMETER IN ITS PAPER. I HAVE THAT ON PROPERTY ALSO. AGAIN, THE, SHE THAT'S EXISTING I APPEAR IF I COULD MM-HMM . PLEASE. UM, I HAVE TO TURN, I HAVE TO REMEMBER TO TURN THIS ON. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT ON THE PHONE WAS THAT YOUR DAUGHTER HAS SOME PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND THAT YOU WOULD CARRY HER THE PERLA AND WE SUGGESTED THAT YOU CONSIDER ADDITIONAL PAVING. YES. I DON'T THINK, BASED UPON THE COVERAGE THAT I SEE, THEY'RE AT 29.15%, THAT IF THEY WERE TO PUT A PATH FROM THE HOUSE TO THE PERLA, THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY ISSUE. MM-HMM . YOU HAVEN'T PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION. SO IF THERE'S A VARIANCE THAT'S REQUIRED, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I HOPE NOT. YEAH. I DID MEASURE. OKAY. SO PATIO TO THE PERLA AREA IS, UM, 16 FEET IN CHANGE, THREE FOOT WIDE BY 16 FOOT LONG. PROBABLY IS A P GRAB ON LIKE BLUE PAPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TRYING TO KEEP ONE MORE NATURE, NOT, UH, CONCRETE IT UP AND MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, I MOVED HERE BEYOND THE CITY . RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY, WE CAN ADD THAT IN AT THIS POINT AND MAKE IT THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING CONSIDERING. YEAH. IT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT DOESN. YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT HIM OVER. IT'S GONNA PUT HIM AT LIKE, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA PUT HIM OVER. OKAY. AT ALL. SO WE DON'T NEED THE VARIANCE FOR IT ANYWAY. NO, NO. I JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, I, I MEASURE ONCE CUT, MEASURE TWICE WHAT? CUT ONCE, WHATEVER THAT IS. AND UH, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S DO THIS ONE TIME AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? YEAH. THREE OR FOUR TIMES. SCOTT SAYS MEASURED TWICE. CUT. THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AT, SURE. MR. HAMILTON SAYS THAT TOO. . I SAY LOOK AT IT A COUPLE TIMES, THINK ABOUT IT. AND THE SHED THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY, I THINK SOMEONE SAID WAS A EIGHT BY 16. IT'S ACTUALLY SIX BY 12 . IT'S SMALLER. WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS ON HERE. OH YEAH. IT'S EIGHT BY 12. WE HAVE EIGHT BY 12 AND I THINK EIGHT BY BY 12. THE PERGOLA I HAVE 12 BY 20 ON HERE. YES. 1212 WIDE 20 LONG. OKAY. THAT CORRECT. SO IT'S, IT'S A FOOT OVER ON THE CONCRETE ON BOTH SIDES. IT IS ALL AROUND THE BACK ITSELF. SIX INCHES ON EACH SIDE, I GUESS ALL FOOT AROUND THE ENTIRE OH, OKAY. YEAH. ONE FOOT COMPLETELY AROUND THE WHOLE ENTIRE, UH, PER, LET'S SAY THIS IS THE PER RIGHT HERE IN THE CENTER AND THIS IS THE OUTSIDE CONCRETE. IT'S ONE FOOT FROM ALL SIDES. OKAY. OKAY. SO AS, UM, IN MS. TAYLOR'S, UH, LETTER, UM, AND YOU DID SAY THAT YOU ARE PLANNING ON HAVING LIGHTING IN THERE AT SOME POINT. SO AN APPROVAL TONIGHT WOULD BE CONDITIONED UPON THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING BEING FULL CUT OFF DIRECTED DOWNWARD TIMERS AND MOTION SENSORS, LOW WATTAGE, WARM COLOR TEMPERATURE, ALL THE GOOD STUFF. OKAY. AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, I GAVE, I SHOWED THE ELECTRICIAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, MS. TAYLOR'S LETTER MM-HMM . OF ALL THE, THE PARAMETERS FOR THE LIGHTING. HE'S LIKE, YEAH. HE SAYS WE'LL CERTAINLY PROVIDE EVERYTHING THERE. OKAY, COOL. IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF ELECTRICAL, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS I NEED TO SECURE. HE SAID THAT AS THE CONTRACT, HE WOULD GET THAT ALSO. BUT I THINK MYSELF, YEAH, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS TRUST UH, THEM TO DO THAT. OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, MR. YOU MIGHT, YOU GOTTA OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OH MY GOD, YOU'RE GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WOULDN'T HAVE LIKED . THANK YOU. OKAY. IF YOU WANNA HAVE A SEAT AND I'LL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC. UM, SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PLEASE. I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. A IF ANYONE'S HERE FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, YOU CAN COME FORWARD SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC? I'LL [00:40:01] SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL A. OKAY. NO. MAKE A MOTION OR APPROVE THE APPLICATION. SECOND SET. GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL. MR. HAMILTON. AYE. MS. ? AYE. MR. QUI? AYE. MS. MRS. ? AYE. MR. HACKETT AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN OF RECORDS? AYE. A THANKS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. FROM BACK AGAIN. NOT HERE. THANK . WOW. REALLY? I'M OFFENDED NOW. IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM. YOU CAN STOP BY ANYTIME. ANYTIME PLEASE. WE, YOUR APPLICATION. THANK YOU GUYS. CONGRATS. APPRECIATE. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERY THIRD. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S, IT'S A TRAUMA. OKAY. I DID NOT A RECORD. YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS IN NOVEMBER. OKAY. LAST APPLICATION. CHRISTOPHER RAWLESS, 11 FRIAR TOUGH DRIVE BLOCK 27 0 3 0.8 LOT SEVEN. SEEKING A BOTH VARIANCE FOR ENCROACHING INTO THE FIVE FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR AN EXISTING SHED. YES, MS. SHE'S GOT THIS. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. UH, AMY. A MI. LAST NAME'S ALIS, R-A-L-I-S. AND YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH CHRISTOPHER ALIS? THAT IS CORRECT. YEP. BACK TO YOU MADAM CHAIR. OKAY, THANKS. UM, OKAY, TELL US ABOUT YOUR APPLICATION. SO WE JUST APPLIED FOR, UH, SOME SIDE YARD SETBACK RELIEF FOR A SHED. UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPLANATION OF WHY WE CHOSE THAT PARTICULAR SPOT. UM, THE RIGHT SIDE OF OUR BACKYARD, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUR YARD, UM, BOTH THE BACK AND THE SIDE, UM, HAS SEVERAL WELL ESTABLISHED TREES, UM, THAT ARE HEALTHY. SO IN ORDER TO PLACE A SHED ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE, UM, THAT WOULD MEAN REMOVING SOME OF THOSE, UM, HEALTHY TREES BACK THERE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO DO. AND I KNOW SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, WHERE, WHERE WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING, UM, MAINTENANCE OF THOSE HEALTHY TREES AS WELL. THE, UM, LEFT CORNER IS, UM, IT APPROACHES GREEN SPACE OVER THERE IN THE, UM, LEFT CORNER OF OUR YARD. UM, IT'S ALSO LOWER LAND DOWN THERE AND IT'S WHERE, UM, OUR, OUR, UM, WATER TENDS TO DRAIN. SO SOMETIMES WITH HEAVY RAINS IT ALSO TENDS TO POOL BACK IN THAT LEFT CORNER. UM, REALLY MAKING IT NOT A USABLE SPACE FOR PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE A SHED OR IN MY IDEAL SPOT. UM, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE, UM, SETTLED ON THAT LEFT SIDE OF OUR YARD. UM, IT IS PLENTY FAR BACK FROM THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BACK FENCE, IT'S JUST THE SIDE YARD WHERE WE'RE AT, UM, TWO AND A HALF FEET, UM, WHERE WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RELIEF FROM THAT. UH, THE, THE ISSUE WITH PULLING IT OUT FURTHER IS THAT IT DOES START TO COME VERY CLOSE TO OUR HOUSE AND OUR HVAC UNIT IS OVER THERE AS WELL. SO IN TERMS OF TRYING TO, UM, HAVE ENOUGH CLEARANCE FOR, YOU KNOW, A MOWER, GOD FORBID, EMERGENCY VEHICLE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT STARTS BECOMING WAY TOO CLOSE TO ALLOW THAT SAFE CLEARANCE THERE. UM, THERE ARE PINE TREES ALONG THAT SIDE PROPERTY LINE, UH, WHICH ALSO, WHICH I ARE ON OUR NEIGHBOR'S SIDE, BUT, UM, IT ALSO KIND OF NESTLES THE SHED IN NICELY IN, IN THAT PARTICULAR SPOT. AND, UM, JUST TO NOTE, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, WE DID WALK MOST OF OUR, WE DID GET TO SEE MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHEN WE WALKED AROUND THE 200 FOOT LEATHER. UM, SO THEY KNEW WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. BUT, UH, EVERYBODY WAS VERY KIND, VERY SUPPORTIVE, YOU KNOW, GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING AND WE'RE, UM, GOOD FRIENDS WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAPPEN TO SHARE THAT, UM, PROPERTY LINE WITH US AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SHARED THEIR SUPPORT AND, AND UM, AS WELL. THANK YOU. YEP. UM, MS. TAYLOR, I SEE YOUR LETTER BUT IT'S, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS. I DO NOT. OKAY. , IT'S, YOU KNOW, OF THE NEIGHBORS WE TALKED TO SAID IT LOOKS GREAT. I KNOW. YEAH, RIGHT. IT'S A CORNER LOT. YOU KNOW, SHE EXPLAINED EVERYTHING ABOUT THE TREES AND WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE. I, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE ELSE THEY COULD PUT IT. RIGHT. UM, AND IT IS ALMOST, UH, IT WAS ALMOST DIFFICULT TO WRITE THIS LETTER 'CAUSE I, I HATE TO DO THAT FOR THESE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THIS . YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A BETTER CHOICE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR THE SHED. I I THINK IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE BASED ON YOUR TESTIMONY, IT'S THE BEST OPTION, [00:45:01] UM MM-HMM . BASED ON YOUR PROPERTY AND I AGREE FROM THE PICTURES MOVING IT ANY FORWARD, ANY MORE FORWARD WITH COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ISSUE. UM, DOES ANY, ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION WE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. ANY TO SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, , TRY AGAIN. PLEASE OBJECT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY QUIET BACK THERE. THEY'RE SO GOOD. TRYING TO GET THE SPORTS STAR. OKAY. SEEING NON MOTION CLOSE. MAKE A MOTION CLOSE. OH MY GOD. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. YOU CAN COME BACK UP. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. MSRE. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. ROLL CALL. MR. HAMILTON. AYE. MS. BBE, YOU AYE. MR. GENTIL? AYE. MR. MR. ? AYE. MR. HACKETT? AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN RECORDS? AYE. AND CHAIR . AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, . GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK. KEEP HIM ACTIVE AND KEEP HIM OUTSIDE. RIGHT. SUPPORT, KEEP HIM ACTIVE AND KEEP HIM OUTSIDE. NOW WE GET TO TAKE ALL HIS STUFF OUT OF THE GARAGE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, THEIR STUFF. . THERE WE GO. THERE GO. OKAY. NO NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO. NO NEED. OKAY. UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.