* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] CHANGE YOU WANT SEE, TELL YOU EXACT SECONDS. YOU GUYS ARE [1. Convening of Meeting] GOOD. EVENING EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE DECEMBER 18TH MEETING AND THE FINAL ONE FOR 2024 ON THE MIDFORD TOWNSHIP ZONING BOARD. UM, IF WE CAN HAVE, UH, THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING RECORD STATEMENT. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ADEQUATE NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN GIVEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS. ZACH, UM, BEING PUBLISHED IN THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE TOWNSHIP OF MEDFORD, SETTING FORTH ALL THE TIME, PLACE, AND MATTERS TO BE ADDRESSED. BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, SIR. CAN I HAVE THAT THROUGH RISE FOR THEIR FLAG SLIP PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL BACK, MR. RICKARDS? HERE. MR. MARTIN. MS. UMBA? HERE. MR. MORRISON? HERE. MR. MEEN? HERE. MS. BORHEES AND VICE CHAIRMAN MOORE HERE. THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE EVENING. UH, JUST THE NEW JERSEY PLANNER. Y'ALL HAVE REFERRED RIGHT. THANK YOU. HAS [6. Minutes] EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? UH, REGULAR AND EXECUTIVE FROM THE 18TH AND FROM OCTOBER 16TH, REGULAR MEETINGS? AND IF SO, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS? OCTOBER 16TH. THERE'S A TYPO ON PAGE SIX FOR MS. MORRISSEY. CREDENTIALS JUST NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED. ADJUSTED THERE. OKAY. DID YOU GET THAT HAND? YEP. SEEING NONE IF I COULD HAVE A, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED AND NO REPORTS THIS EVENING. SO WE WILL [8. Memorialization of Resolution] GO TO OUR MEMORIALIZATION, STARTING WITH 20 24 42 GIANNA ELLO 41 THUNDERHEAD DRIVE APPROVAL OF A BULK VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT A 12 BY 12 ROOFED ENTRY PORCH IN THE FRONT. SETBACK FOR THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING. IF I CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. AND, UH, ROLL CALL. MR. MORRISON. AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. UMBA? AYE. MR. MAY AYE. AND VICE CHAIRMAN MOORE. AYE. THANK YOU. NEXT WOULD BE 20 24 43. MICHAEL AND ANDREA BRIAN, ONE PONTIAC DRIVE APPROVAL OF A BULK VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT THE BREEZEWAY AND GARAGE WITHIN THE 75 FOOT FRONT SETBACK AND THE 50 FOOT SIDE SETBACK AND EXCEEDING THE 15% LOT COVERAGE. SOMEONE HERE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'D MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU MR. RICKARDS. SECOND. THANK YOU MRS. AMBA. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MORRISON? AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. AMBA? AYE. MR. MID AYE. AND VICE CHAIRMAN WOLF? AYE. THANK YOU. NEXT IS 20 24 44 YMCA CAMP NIKKEN 1303 STOKES ROAD APPROVAL OF A USE VARIANCE AND PRELIMINARY AND FINAL MAJOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO ALLOW PRE-K CHILDCARE WITHIN THE ROWER ONE AND ROWER TWO BUILDINGS. MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU MR. RICKARDS. SECOND. THANK YOU. MR. LARSON. MAY ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. LARSON? AYE. AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. UMBA? AYE. MR. MILLION AYE. AND VICE CHAIRMAN WALKER? AYE. NEXT IS 20 24 45 MARK PADDEN 65 AYS TOWN ROAD APPROVAL OF A BULK VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND AN ACCESSORY DWELL ACCESSORY DWELLING WHERE TWO DWELLINGS ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THE TRACK AND AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN ANY DISTRICT. I MAKE THAT MOTION. THANK YOU MR. RICK. IF A SECOND. A SECOND. WHO'S TURN? . THANK YOU. MR. MANN. ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MORRISON? AYE. MR. RICK? AYE. MS. AMBA? AYE. MR. M AYE. VICE-CHAIRMAN WOLF VICE AND THE, UH, FILING VICE CHAIRMAN WOLF? I'M SORRY, DID YOU I DID YOU SAY AYE OR NO? I AM SAYING AYE. [00:05:01] OKAY. AND OUR FINAL MEMORIALIZATION IS, UH, 20 24 35 A ODA AND AQUINO AND KEVIN EVANS, JR. 11 COGER COURT, UH, APPROVAL FOR BULK VARIANCES TO ALLOW TWO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WHERE ONLY ONE IS PERMITTED AND THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THE FIVE FOOT REAR SETBACK. WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION. SECOND. MR. MORRISON? MS. UMBA? THANK YOU. ROLL CALL MR. MORRISON. AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. UMBA AYE. AND MR. MEEN? AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. [9. Applications] FOR THE APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING, I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER AT THE REQUEST OF SOME OF OUR APPLICANTS AND TRY AND MAKE THINGS, UH, GO A LITTLE SMOOTHER THIS EVENING. BUT THE FIRST APPLICATION TO BE HEARD TONIGHT IS FOR CHRIS AND CRYSTAL LAVO TO RAMSGATE COURT SEEKING A BULK VARIANCE FOR THE REAR YARD SETBACK TO CONSTRUCT A COVERED DECK SHORT AND COME FORWARD AND, UH, TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROCESS. ALL RIGHT, SIR, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, PLEASE JUST RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. CHRISTOPHER LAVO. LAST NAME LAV AS IN VICTOR, OICE. AND YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES. BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOUR, ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, UH, MEMBERS OF THIS ZONING BOARD AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME'S CHRIS LAVO. UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE, UNFORTUNATELY SHE'S UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. UH, PREPARED A BRIEF SUMMARY THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD OF MEDFORD AT THIS TIME IN HOPES FOR YOUR ALIGNMENT AND TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR A VARIANCE TO REPLACE OUR CURRENT DECK WITH A SAFE COVER STRUCTURE. MY FAMILY AND I MOVED TO MEDFORD IN 2021 AFTER ALMOST THREE YEARS OF A HOUSE SEARCH. UH, MEDFORD QUICKLY CAPTURED OUR HEARTS WITH THE SCHOOL'S VIBRANT COMMUNITY FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS WHO MADE US FEEL WELCOME FROM THE START. WE KNEW THIS WAS THE PERFECT PLACE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY, UM, AND OUR YOUNG KIDS. EVERYTHING FROM THE HALLOWEEN PARADE, UM, TO FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS FOOTBALL, WE CAN HEAR IT FROM OUR BACKYARD. UH, TO BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY COACHING YOUTH SPORTS, IT'S BECOME MORE THAN JUST A TOWN FOR US. THIS IS OUR FOREVER HOME. WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOUSE, OUR HOME INSPECTION REVEALED SOME SERIOUS ISSUES WITH THE DECK. IT WAS ROTTING AND UNSTABLE, IMPOSED A REAL HAZARD. THE DECK WAS BUILT WITH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE IN 2003, HOWEVER, WAS LATER EXTENDED AND ALTERED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNERS WITHOUT PROPER APPROVAL RESULTING IN AN UNSAFE AND POORLY CONSTRUCTED STRUCTURE. THE DECK HAD NAILS STICKING UP LARGE HOLES, WOODEN BOARDS, WIDESPREAD ROT, MAKING IT A SERIOUS RISK FOR INJURY. UM, WE REMOVED THE ROTTING FLOORBOARDS AND THE DANGEROUS NAILS TO PREVENT ANY ACCIDENTS. AND THEN IN 2022, WE BEGAN WORKING WITH A LANDSCAPE DESIGN COMPANY, AN ARCHITECT AND A CONSTRUCTION FIRM TO DESIGN A COVERED DECK THAT WOULD BE SAFE, DURABLE, AND BLEND IN WITH THE HARMONY OF OUR HOME. RELYING ON THE SURVEY PROVIDED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, WE UNDERSTAND THE SETBACK TO BE 10 FEET AS THE HOME BUILDER HAD BEEN GRANTED 10 FOOT VARIANCE. HOWEVER, WE LATER DISCOVERED THE REQUIRED SETBACK WAS ACTUALLY 30 FEET. SO WE FULLY RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE WETLANDS ON OUR PROPERTY AND HAVE BEEN VERY MINDFUL OF THROUGHOUT THIS PLANNING PROCESS. THE ODD SHAPE AND SIZE OF OUR TWO ACRE PROPERTY HAVE MADE A CHALLENGING DESIGN, A DECK THAT ALLOWS AND ALIGNS THE PRINCIPLES OF THE STRUCTURE WITHOUT ENCROACHING INTO THE SETBACK. OUR PROPOSED DECK WOULD EXTEND JUST A FEW FEET FURTHER INTO THE SETBACK IN THE PREVIOUS STRUCTURE. AND WE ARE CONFIDENT WITH THIS SMALL EXTENSION WILL NOT N NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE WETLANDS. OUR DESIGN ALSO INCLUDES MEASURES TO ENSURE PROPER WATER FLOW WITHOUT HARMING OR REMOVING A SINGLE TREE DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND ALL LIGHTING WILL CONTINUE TO BE WARM, LOW IMPACT, AND CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING LIGHTING AROUND THE PROPERTY. IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT GRANTING THIS VARIANCE WILL BRING NO HARM TO THE PUBLIC OR TO THE WETLANDS. A DENIAL OF THIS VARIANCE, HOWEVER, WOULD PREVENT US FROM BUILDING A SAFE, USABLE OUTDOOR SPACE, WHICH WOULD BE UNDUE HARDSHIP FOR US AND COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT OUR PROPERTIES VALUE. SOMETHING THAT COULD IN TURN IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL. BEFORE SUBMITTING THIS APPLICATION, WE SHARED OUR PLANS WITH OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS TO KEEP THEM INFORMED AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL OF 'EM, ONE OF 'EM WHO HAVE SUPPORTED ME HERE TODAY, UH, FULLY SUPPORTED OUR PROPOSED DECK REPLACEMENT, UNDERSTANDING OUR SAFETY CONCERNS AND IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A USABLE OUTDOOR SPACE TO ENJOY WITH OUR FAMILY. THEIR ENCOURAGEMENT HAS STRENGTHENED OUR BELIEF THAT THIS VARIANCE IS THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL. IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE ARE A FAMILY OF [00:10:01] INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND SIMPLY PUT DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY AND NOT CUTTING CORNERS. AND WE'RE EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THE MEDFORD MUNICIPALITY OFFICE HAS PROVIDED US IN HELPING US NAVIGATE THROUGH PAPERWORK, ANSWERING OUR PHONE CALLS, AND PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO ENSURE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR CASE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. LAVO. MR. TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION? UM, NO. JUST ONE THAT'S IDENTIFIED. OUR OCTOBER FOUR REPORT, THIS IS SORT OF UNIQUE PROPERTY BECAUSE AS PART OF THE FILED PLA FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A 30 FOOT PRINCIPAL BUILDING SETBACK IS REQUIRED, BUT 'CAUSE THERE WERE WETLANDS ON THIS SITE, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME IMPOSED THAT ALL SETBACKS WOULD BE MEASURED FROM THAT WETLANDS BUFFER LINE. SO THEIR ACTUAL REAR YARD PROPERTY LINE IS OVER 200 FEET FROM THE BACK OF THE HOME. IT'S JUST THAT SETBACK TO THE WETLANDS BUFFER THAT EXISTS AT 17 FEET AS IT IDENTIFIED BY MR. IS BEING REDUCED ON TO 14. AND IT IS, IT IS CONSIDERED A PORCH UNDER OUR CODE. OKAY. UM, SO JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST A, A COVER OF THE ROAD DECK, RIGHT? UH, THE ONE QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS, UM, IS THAT JUST PROPOSED TO BE SCREENED OR IS THAT ENCLOSED AND HEATED AND CONDITION SPACE? UH, ALL ARCHITECT WILL, DRAWINGS, PERMITS, UM, ENGINEERING HAVE ALL BEEN PROVIDED. UM, WE'LL HAVE A TV IN THERE, FIREPLACE, UM, AN AREA TO GATHER AN AREA TO EAT DINNER. UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY DONE EVERYTHING BY THE BOOK. BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ARE YOU ENCLOSING IT OR SCREENING? WE'RE NOT ENCLOSING IT. NO. WE'RE NOT HAVING A FENCE IN THERE OR A SCREEN. THERE'S NO SCREEN. SO IT'S NOT A SOLID WALL, IT'S, IT'S GOT SCREENS OR IT IS SO JUST OPEN AIR AND AIR CONDITIONING? NO. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST GONNA HAVE SCREENS. IT'S GOING, IT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE SCREENS AROUND IT. DESIGN THAT YOU HAVE THERE WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT'S AN OPEN, WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO PRICE, WELL, UNFORTUNATELY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE SCREENS AT THE TIME, BUT THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL MODEL. SO IT IS AN OPEN DECK. IT'S, IT'S OPEN. YOU GOT IT. ABSOLUTELY. YEP. OKAY. UM, THEY TOUCHED ON THE OTHER ITEMS ON OUR REPORT, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WEREN'T, UM, FLOODLIGHTS, UM, SHINING OUT TOWARD JA ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THAT IT WILL BE TREE REMOVAL. IF THERE IS ANY TREE REMOVAL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE TOWN. I THINK HE STATED THAT THEY WEREN'T, YOU WEREN'T PLANNING TO MOVE? NO. NOT ONE TREE'S BEING CUT DOWN. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL. IS THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, UH, MR. LAVO, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A SEAT FOR A MINUTE, I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. SURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION TO CLOSE. SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. AMBA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP? AND, UH, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION ON THIS APPLICATION? ANYONE ON THE BOARD? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU MS. SALVE. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. MR. ME, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. MARSON? AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. BLE? AYE. MR. ME AYE. AND VICE CHAIRMAN WOLF? AYE, YOUR APPLICATION IS APPROVED SO WE CAN GO IN WITH YOUR PROJECT AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN THIS EVENING. THANK YOU ALL. HAVE A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY AND NEW YEAR. YOU DO THE SAME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT APPLICATION FOR THIS EVENING IS HENRY AND JAM TROSKEY 25 BORDEN'S ROAD, SEEKING A BULK VARIANCE FOR THE EXISTING SIX FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCING IN THE FRONT YARD. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD. ALRIGHT SIR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM AND TELL THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH TO HELP YOU? GOD? I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. UH, HENRY KY. S-T-R-O-N-S-K-I. YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES. OVER TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. AND WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, SIR? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I, I WANNA START OUT BY SAYING I PUT THIS UP. UH, I WASN'T ASSIGNED TO SNEAK ANYTHING IN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WHEN I PUT IT UP, I, I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS A SCREEN SCREENING FOR, UH, AN AREA THAT WAS, I ONLY HAVE ONE PLACE ON MY PROPERTY TO STORE THINGS OUTSIDE STUFF. SO IT WAS KIND OF AN EYESORE FROM THE STREET. AND I'M LIKE, WELL, LEMME, LET ME PUT UP THIS, WHAT I CALL THE SCREEN. AND I, I GUESS IT'S A FENCE REALLY. UH, AND WHY I CALLED IT A SCREEN IS I'M AN E-H-V-A-C BUSINESS [00:15:01] AND WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE WE PUT EQUIPMENT IN, WE, WE PUT THESE SCREEN WALLS UP IN FRONT TO KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCEALED. UH, I BROUGHT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS THIS HELP, BUT I BROUGHT SOME PICTURES OF THE SCREENS I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHICH YOU SEE, UM, ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL MARK IT. EXHIBIT, HOW MANY PHOTOS ARE THERE? I GOT FIVE PA FIVE COPIES OF EACH. SO SEE THIS, THIS, WELL, NO, JUST, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAND 'EM OUT TO THE OH, OKAY. WE'LL MARK IT FOR THE RECORD PACKAGE OF 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5. PHOTOS AS EXHIBIT A NINE. A NINE, YEAH. A NINE. ARE THESE NEW? THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED BEFORE. UH, NO, I DIDN'T SUBMIT THESE BEFORE. THIS IS JUST SO I CAN EXPLAIN THE EXPLANATION FOR PUTTING, PUTTING THIS WALL UP FENCE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL. SO ANYWAY, I, I INSTALLED THIS, UH, UH, THIS, THIS FENCE FOR YOU ALL, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. AND IT'S BEEN UP FOR LIKE TWO AND A HALF YEARS. AND I GUESS SOMEBODY CALLED THE TOWNSHIP, UH, THE LADY DOWN. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. OKAY. UM, IT'S 220 20 FOOT OFF THE ROAD. SO I GUESS YOU HAVE PICTURES OF, OF THE AREA, RIGHT? WHERE THAT'S THE, WE SUBMIT PICTURES OF THE, UH, FENCE ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE THAT. IS THIS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE YES, IT'S AN EXAMPLE. CAN I? SURE. THESE ARE REALLY EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SCREENING. SEE BEHIND THIS MM-HMM . IS, UH, EQUIPMENT FOR HVAC. SO YOU PUT THAT OFF SO YOU CAN'T SEE ANYMORE. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE I, THAT'S WHERE MY THINKING PROCESS CAME IN. I, I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT 'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT, UH, TOWNSHIP THINK I JUST WENT AHEAD AND PUT UP A FENCE ON MY KY REALLY? AS A FENCE. IT'S NOT CONNECTED. IT'S UH, THIS IS JUST TO SHIELD. IT'S A PANEL. YOUR YES. ELECTRICAL. ELECTRICAL. THERE'S A BACKHOE BACK THERE. THERE'S A LAWN GENERATOR. TRASH CAN. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH, SO IT JUST COVERED EVERYTHING UP AND TO ME IT LOOKED A LOT BETTER. I WAS, I THOUGHT I WAS IMPROVING WHAT I HAD HERE. I HAVE NO OTHER POLICE ON THE PROPERTIES TO PUT ANYTHING. I'M SORRY, WHAT'S BEHIND THAT? MY CAMERA, SIR. OH YEAH. WELL, BEHIND, UH, THERE'S A BACKUP BACK THERE. UH, THERE'S A, UM, LET'S SEE, I GOT EXTRA, UH, SLATE FOR MY, UH, DRIVEWAY. THESE PIECES BREAK. MAKE COUPLE PILE OF THAT. UH, TRASH CANS. LAWNMOWER, SNOWBLOWER, GENERATOR. I HAVE A, UH, ALSO GENERATOR TREE. WELL, THE GENERATOR IS SEPARATE. GENERATOR IS, OH, HERE WE GO. OKAY. THIS IS, THIS IS EQUIPMENT. THIS IS ACCOUNTABLE EQUIPMENT, WHICH HAS, UH, DOES THE BOARD HAVE A PLAN? I THINK IT HAS SIGNATURE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. YES, THIS IS, THIS IS THE, ALRIGHT, SO SECTION TWO FENCES. THERE'S ONE STREAMING AROUND THE, WHAT'S THE CAPITAL, WHAT ACCOUNT EACH FROM THE HOUSE AND IS THERE A GENERATOR? DID YOU GET A PERMIT FOR THAT? OH YEAH. SO THESE ELECTRICAL PANELS ARE ALL FOR YOUR HVAC, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THE WHOLE HOUSE ACTUALLY. OKAY, SO IT'S THE POWER FOR THE, ALL THE POWER FOR THE HOUSE. YES. OKAY. MR. TAYLOR, ANY COMMENTS? UM, WHEN DID YOU GET THE, UH, THE PERMITS FOR THE HVAC IN THE RECALL? WELL, WHEN I BUILT THE HOUSE IT WAS LIKE, UH, FOUR YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO. ALRIGHT. BECAUSE THEY, THEY AREN'T [00:20:01] ACTUALLY PERMITTED WITHIN THE FRONT YARD. SO I THINK WHATEVER THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION WOULD BE GENERATOR IS, IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN IN ANY THOSE FRONT YARD. THIS IS PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THIS TO INCLUDE THOSE STRUCTURES IF THE BOARD IS SO INCLINED THAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO REQUEST VOTE MEMBER APPLICATION ACCORDINGLY. UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, YOU MENTIONED YOU THE H EAC BUSINESS MM-HMM . THE BACK YOU HAVE THERE, IS THAT USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BUSINESS? NO. IS IT OWNED BY THE BUSINESS? NO. NO BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED? OH NO. SORRY. MY BUSINESS IN THAT WAS REALLY ALL I HAD. MR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. CAN I JUST ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT? SO YOU'RE SAYING IF THERE WAS A PERMIT APPROVED FOR THAT GENERATOR, THE LOCATION WOULD'VE BEEN PART OF THAT PERMIT APPROVAL? CORRECT. IF IT WAS SHOWN ON THE PLANS TO BE THE HVAC EQUIPMENT AND THE GENERATOR, THEN BOTH OF THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON WHATEVER ELECTRICAL OR CONSTRUCTION PERMITS. AND THAT AT THE TIME PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN EVALUATED AND TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PART OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS HAVING SOMEONE'S GENERATOR SITTING OUT BY THE STREET OR IN THEIR FRONT YARD, REALLY NOT THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE. THE POINT IS TO GET THEM LIKE SWIMMING FIELDS AND SHEDS AND OTHER STRUCTURES BEHIND THAT FRONT BUILDING LINE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO PUT IT IN THIS AREA? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE THE EQUIPMENT. YES. UH, THAT WAS THE REALLY THE BEST PLACE THAT WE THOUGHT PUT IT. UM, WE, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING, UH, ALONG THE DRAWINGS, BUT WE DID SUBMIT THE WHOLE GENERATOR PACKAGE AND ALTOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE DOCUMENTS. SO I DIDN'T, I DON'T REMEMBER, UM, ANYBODY ASKING ME WHERE IT WAS GOING. I'D HAVE TO CHECK BACK, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. I MEAN, THAT WOULD'VE JUST POLICE THAT THING THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY LOT OF WORK TO DO TO PUT IT THERE, YOU KNOW. SO YOU CAN YOU SEE IT FROM, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT FROM THE STREET? NO. YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE NOW. YEAH. IT'S HIDING. I KNOW. CAN YOU EVEN REALLY SEE THE FENCE? UH, IT'S ABOUT, UH, YES. IT'S NOT THE FRONT. IT'S LIKE OFF OFF THE SIDE AND IT'S PROBABLY, I'M GONNA SAY 150 FOOT OFF THE STREET MAP. OKAY. BUT THERE ARE TREES. I MEAN, IT'S BACK THERE. TREES FRONT, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN FRONT. YEAH, NO DOUBT. SO IT'S PRETTY WELL HIT. MM-HMM . YOU HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS FARM HERE. IT SETS BACK PRETTY FAR. OH YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT, I'M GONNA OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? YES SIR. PRE HELLO EVERYONE. SIR, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. RICK MUCA. M-U-S-C-A-V-A-G-E. AND YOUR ADDRESS? 25 SAW ROAD, METFORD, NEW JERSEY. TAKE IT AWAY. OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS AVI. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT, I'M ON THE BOARD AT THE BRADDOCKS MILL CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION, OF WHICH THIS HOME IS ONE OF OUR 55 HOMEOWNERS. ARE YOU, YOU HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION OR YOU YES. DID THEY ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING YOU TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF? YES, THEY DID. AND UM, YES, I'M ON THE BOARD. I'M VICE PRESIDENT THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR I'LL BE PRESIDENT, BUT WE ADOPTED THAT RESOLUTION BACK IN SEPTEMBER. OKAY. TAKE IT AWAY. OKAY. UM, THE ASSOCIATION'S COVENANTS, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY GOAL IS THE, THE PRESERVATION OF THE NATURAL SURROUNDINGS AROUND THIS LAKE. WERE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF THE OTHER LAKES. THE PROPERTIES ARE BIGGER. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CUT ANYTHING DOWN. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP EVERYTHING AS NATURAL AS AS POSSIBLE. UM, ONE OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE KIND OF MIRRORS WHAT THE TOWNSHIP HAS WHERE NO FENCE IN THE FRONT YARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE THAN FOUR FOOT HIGH. AND IT CAN'T BE ANYTHING MORE THAN SPLIT ROOF. SO THIS WAS NEVER BROUGHT TO US. UM, THE FENCE, WHICH IN THE VARIANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SIX FEET TALL. THERE'S A GENERATOR IN THE FRONT YARD WITH SOME OTHER HVAC EQUIPMENT THAT SHOULD HAVE HAD VARIANCE TOO. BUT THAT FENCE IS SIX FOOT, THAT'S 32 FEET OF FENCE. THERE'S ANOTHER A HUNDRED FEET OF FENCE THAT RUNS ALONG THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND A NINE CAR GARAGE THAT, UM, IS [00:25:01] ACTUALLY EIGHT FOOT TALL. SO THAT, THAT A HUNDRED FEET OF FENCING IS EIGHT FOOT TALL. AND IT SCREENS, AS THE HOMEOWNER SAID, SOME LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO SCREENS TWO TRACTOR TRAILER, UH, STORAGE CONTAINERS, WHICH I HAVE ALL THIS IN. THERE'S THREE COPIES OF EACH PHOTO. SO IT KIND OF SHOWS ONE PHOTO SHOWS. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE'LL MARK 'EM ONE AT A TIME. WE'LL MARK IT THE FIRST AS EXHIBIT OH ONE. YES. THIS, CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHAT THIS IS? YES. SO THIS IS A PICTURE. IT SHOWS THE HVAC EQUIPMENT BEHIND THE SIX FOOT TALL FENCE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER FENCING BEHIND IT, MAYBE 50 FEET OR SO, UH, IS SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THEN YOU'LL MARK THIS AS EXHIBIT OH TWO. IDENTIFY WHAT THIS IS. YES. THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THE SIDE, UM, OF THE NEIGHBOR, UH, ON ADJACENT PROPERTY SHOWING BEHIND THE FENCE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT AND SOME, SOME STONE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO TWO TRACTOR TRAILER CONTAINERS FOR STORAGE BACK THERE. SHE CAN, I I'M ASSUMING YOU CAN MAKE THOSE OUT ON THE DOOR. YEAH, I'M JUST, UM, NOT EXACTLY, I MEAN, THE TRACTOR AND THE OTHER STUFF COULD EASILY BE STORED IN THE MINE CAR GARAGE THAT HE HAS THERE. HE CAN'T PUT THOSE CONTAINERS IN THERE. SO, UH, I MEAN FROM THE, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ELSE IS ABIDED BY THE RULES. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WERE DONE HERE WITHOUT ASSOCIATION APPROVAL. BUT THIS IS THE TOPIC FOR TONIGHT. SO, UM, WE DON'T FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE EXCEPTION HERE WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER 54 HOMES WERE ABIDING BY NOT JUST THE TOWNSHIP RULES, BUT ALSO THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE. I'M SORRY. DID HE SEEK APPROVAL AND YOU DENIED IT OR HE DID NOT GO BEFORE THE, AFTER THE TOWNSHIP CAME TO HIM, HE CAME TO US TO SEEK APPROVAL AND DENIED. OKAY. WHEN WAS THAT? UM, UH, YOU AND, AND LL MIGHT GO TO TELL YOU WHEN THAT FIRST, UH, I THINK, ARE YOU ASKING HIM WHEN HE DENIED IT? YEAH. NO, BUT IT WAS RIGHT AT THE SAME ONE. DID THE TOWNSHIP REQUIRE HIM TO GO GET, UH, TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT FOR THAT? WHEN DID THE TOWNSHIP COMPRESS? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT, YEAH, I, I DON'T, IT IS SOMETIME PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP. THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST FOR, I MEAN, BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, WE SPENT A LONG TIME WORKING ON THE PROPERTY AND LOOKED FANTASTIC, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE CONTAINERS HAD BEEN SITTING THERE AND WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA GO AWAY BECAUSE THEY DID PARK THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT MM-HMM. THE FENCE WENT UP AND I COULD SEE FENCE IN THE FRONT ON THAT. THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM TO PUT THE HVAC EQUIPMENT AND THE GENERATOR ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. BUT IF THE, THE HOUSE IS ALSO KIND OF ANGLED, SO EVEN ANYTHING ON THE SIDE WOULD PROBABLY BE VIEWED FROM THE, THE BIG GLASS WINDOWS IN THE BACK BLUE REASON, IT'S NOT THERE. CAN YOU SEE THOSE CONTAINERS FROM THE ROAD OR JUST FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES? UH, YOU CAN'T SEE 'EM FROM THE ROAD NOW THAT THE FENCES ARE, YOU CAN'T, NO. OKAY. THE FENCE. THAT'S WHY THE FENCE IS EIGHT FOOT TALL BACK THERE INSTEAD OF SIX. 'CAUSE IF YOU NOTICE THOSE CONTAINERS AND THE PICTURES ARE, I HAVE IT ON MY TABLET, PROBABLY SIX FOOT TALL. YEAH, THEY'RE, I MEAN THEY'RE STANDARD TRACTOR TRAILER CONTAINERS. RIGHT. SO THREE FOOT TALL AND THE, UH, THE FENCE, HE'S TALL. JUSTICE HALL, THE CONTAINERS. AND YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOVI WHILE HE SEE YOU? THANK YOU SIR. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEAT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION TO CLOSE. THANK YOU MR. RICKERS. SECOND. THANK YOU MS. AHO. ALL IN FAVOR? A. AYE. OPPOSED? MR. ROSKI, YOU WANT TO BACK UP? SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF YOUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION MM-HMM . ABOUT YOUR, OKAY. UM, AT THE VERY LEAST, THE UM, CONTAINERS ARE NOT PERMITTED ANYWHERE IN BEDFORD. MM-HMM . AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN STORE SOME THIS EQUIPMENT IN [00:30:01] YOUR FAIRLY LARGE GARAGE? WELL, I'M A CAR FLICKER, SO IT'S KIND OF LOADED. WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN THE CONTAINER, SIR? UH, CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS, JUNK LIKE THAT. AND THE OTHER ONE WAS LEFT OVER FOR CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S TRUE. THAT IS TRUE. UH, UH, I CAN GET, I WAS GONNA GET RID OF THE ONE, THE OTHER ONE I'D LIKE TO KEEP, BUT I CAN'T KEEP ONE. I GET RID OF. NO, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT PERMITTED ANYWHERE IN THE TOWN SHEET. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED. NO. NO SIR. THEY'RE 24 C BOXES IS WHAT THEY ARE, RIGHT? YEAH. YEP. THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT PERMITTED. SO THE THREE OF THEM ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND ONCE YOU REMOVE THEM, I DON'T KNOW. SOME OF THAT FENCING CAN BE REMOVED. UH, IF YOU DON'T, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE USING IT FOR, JUST TO HIDE THOSE TRAILERS. WELL THE BACKHOE AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF TOO. WELL, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF IT? SO WHAT DO YOU USE THE BACKHOE? I MEAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER TRACTOR IN THE, I MEAN WAS THE BACKHOE. WHAT DO YOU USE THE BACKHOE FOR? UH, NO PROPERTY LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY SOMETHING GOING ON, YOU KNOW, LIFTING THINGS UP LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WANT MOVE THIS, UH, UH, COULDN'T WORKING AROUND. I PICK IT OFF AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ON SKIDS, I CAN MOVE IT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SITS THERE MOST OF THE TIME. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT AN ICE SOURCE. IT'S A GREEN, UH, JOHN DEERE TRACTOR. IT'S NOT A GIGANTIC TRACTOR. NO. I MEAN I COULD SEE IT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I FEEL LIKE THE, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD WHERE THERE'S, WE USUALLY ALWAYS ASK PAT, DID YOU GO TO YOUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION? AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT DIDN'T. YEAH. SO WHAT DO IN THE, LIKE IS THAT, DOES THAT HAVE ANY UM, IT'S NOT, NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE FILED. IT'S NOT LEGALLY THAT WOULD BE BEARING ON THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. NOT, NOT LEGAL, LET'S SAY. CORRECT. SO HYPOTHETICALLY, LET'S ASSUME YOU GUYS APPROVED IT AND THE HOA DENIED IT. YES. IT STILL HAS THE DENIAL FROM THE HOA AND RETROSPECTIVE RE RETRO REVERSELY. IF YOU GUYS DENY IT AND HE GOES TO THE HOA AND THE HOA APPROVES IT, HE STILL CAN'T HAVE IT. 'CAUSE YOU GUYS DENIED IT. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEY BOTH HAVE TO APPROVE THE HOA IF THEY DENIED IT. CORRECT. THEY STILL CAN'T HAVE IT REGARDLESS. CORRECT. OF WHAT OUR DECISION IS. CORRECT. AND THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND HIS H HOA, NOT THE TOWNSHIP OF METFORD. MM-HMM . ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD IN THAT CASE? WOULD ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION REGARDING THIS APPLICATION? EXCUSE ME. I'M SO SORRY. THE, THE, IT, OUR PUBLIC'S BEEN CLOSED AND THERE'S A REQUEST FOR A MOTION. DO YOU WANNA REOPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC? WE CAN'T DO, OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH, NO, WE, WE CLOSED THAT SECTION. CAN I SPEAK? SURE. UH, I DO HAVE A TEXT FROM MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO TELL, TELL, SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THE STRUCTURE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS BOARD RESPECTFULLY CAN ONLY CONSIDER SWORN TESTIMONY AND THAT WOULD BE RIGHT. IMPERMISSIBLE. I HAVE A, I HAVE A COPY OF THE TEXT. IT'S HAS TO BE SWORN. SHE HAS TO RAISE HER HAND AND SAY YES. SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH. NOTHING BUT, SO WE CAN'T JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. WE CAN'T ENTER THAT IN THE RECORD. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST AS A BOARD MEMBER, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS HERE BEFORE I CAN APPROVE ANYTHING HERE. SO GO FOR WORK. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE, DENY THE APPLICATION. WOULD ANYONE CARE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND IT. SO WE ARE VOTING TO DENY THIS APPLICATION IF I CAN HAVE A ROLL CALL. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IF YOU VOTE YES, YOU'RE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL IF YOU VOTE NO, YOU'RE VOTING TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. THANK EVERYBODY. GOT THAT? YES. IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL. OKAY, MR. MARSON? AYE. MR. RICKARD? AYE. MS. AMBA? AYE. MR. MEHAN AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN OF LAW? AYE THE APPLICATION'S BEEN DENIED. HAVE A GOOD DAY SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. NEXT APPLICATION IS JEVON FERRY. I HAVE HOPE PROBLEM PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY. TO INVERNESS DRY SEEKING BOTH VARIANCE WITH A SIDE YARD SETBACK AND LOCK COVERAGE FOR THE INSTALLATION [00:35:01] OF AN INGROUND SWIMMING POOL. GOOD EVENING, SWEAR SIR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM AND TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. SPIRI, S-T-A-F-F-I-D-R-I. YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. I AM CHAIRMAN. BACK TO YOU. OKAY, TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, SIR. I'LL START BY SAYING NOT NEARLY AS PREPARED AS THAT, UH, FIRST GUY. THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY. NO PROBLEM. BUT I GOT SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN. SO, SO MY NAME'S JEVON SUPERIOR. UH, I'VE LIVED IN MEDFORD FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW ON THE SAME RESIDENCE. UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO CONSTRUCT AN GROUND POOL WITH CONCRETE DECKING SURROUNDING THAT, THAT WILL REQUIRE REAR AND SIDE SETBACK VARIANCES AS WELL AS LOCK COVERAGE VARIANCES. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR A POOL THAT'S BIG ENOUGH FOR MY FAMILY AND ME, MY WIFE, AND MY TWO LITTLE KIDS, AS WELL AS ENOUGH DECK DECKING FOR SAFE ENTRY AND PLAY AROUND THE POOL FOR MY KIDS. MY PR MY PROPERTY DOES BACK TO AN OPEN FIELD THAT IS, UH, OWNED BY OUR HOA WHO ALREADY HAS APPROVED THE PROJECT AND ONLY ONE DIRECT NEIGHBOR IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I'M THE FIRST HOUSE WHEN YOU TURNED INTO THE COMMUNITY. UM, WE DO HAVE ALL OF OUR PLANS SHOWING THE PROPER DRAINAGE. IT WILL HAVE NO ANY, NO IMPACT TO BOTH THE HOA NOR MY DIRECT NEIGHBOR. UM, I DID GET ALL THE DOCUMENTATION FROM I BELIEVE SCOTT TAYLOR'S GROUP DESIGN GROUP HERE, UM, ABOUT THE TREES AND THE FENCES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA ASK THIS QUESTION, THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM. THANK YOU. IF YOU WANNA JUST TOUCH ON 'EM. OKAY. YOU HAVE RESPONSES? YEAH. WELL, NOT WELL. I'LL, I'M FROM THE, FROM THE HIP HERE, BUT, UH, THE ONE IS THE FRONT FENCE IN MY PROPERTY. WE DID REPLACE THE FENCE I GUESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, BUT IT WAS IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT WE HAD BEFORE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS NOT, UH, A PROPER FENCE THERE. AND I DID SEE THAT YOU WANTED LANDSCAPING. I THINK IN FRONT, LIKE SO WHEN YOU VIEW THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THERE'LL BE LANDSCAPING THERE. SO WE'LL ADD, UM, THE LANDSCAPING THERE OF AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. UM, AND ALONG THE SIDE OF THE FENCE, THE FENCE IS THERE. NOW THERE'S A DAMAGED TREE NOTED IN YOUR REPORT, UM, THAT'S BEEN DAMAGED FOR A VERY LONG TIME. ACTUALLY, OUR HOA JUST REMOVED, UM, THE DEAD TREE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. SO THAT TREE'S NOT THERE ANY LONGER EITHER. I THINK LIGHTING WAS A PIECE ON HERE TOO. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE LIGHTING IN THE POOL, BUT NOTHING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FROM WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY. MR. TAYLOR, I THINK YOU ADDRESS THE COMMENTS IN THE REPORT, MR. CHAIRMAN AND RESPOND, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. BOARD QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO OTHER PICTURES OF THE FENCE? I, I JUST, WE DOWN SO WE CONVENIENTLY HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN. BACK UP. DO I HAVE A STREET VIEW FRIENDS? I DUNNO. YEAH, THAT'S JUST LET US LOOKING AT, YES. THANK YOU. UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT, UM, I'LL SEE IF, UH, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS JUST FOR A MOMENT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION? THANK YOU. AND A SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU MR. MORRISON. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? COME BACK UP. AND DOES, DOES SOMEONE APPEAR TO MAKE A MOTION REGARDING THIS APPLICATION FOR TWO INVERSE DRIVE? ANYONE? WE NEED A MOTION FOR PEOPLE. IT'S A SIX FOOT FENCE IN THE FRONT YARD, RIGHT? UH, WELL, WELL YEAH, THOSE FIVE. IS THAT A FIVE FOOT FENCE OR A SIX FOOT FENCE? UM, I'M NOT SURE. . IT'S ABOUT MY HEIGHT. SO IT'S ABOUT SIX. [00:40:01] CAN YOU SEE OVER TAKE? IT'S ONLY THE IN THE FRONT. I KNOW, THAT'S WHY I LIKE NOW OFF THE MATTER THAT THAT PIECE OF MY HOUSE THAT GOES BACK, THAT WAS IN ADDITION THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY ADDED PROBABLY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO PERMIT. AND THAT FENCE WAS THERE. MR. TAYLOR, IS THERE ANY LEGAL ISSUES WITH IT BEING ONE FOOT FROM THE STREET LINE OR THERE ARE PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUES OFF DEFER LEGAL ISSUES? UM, THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE TO BE SET BACK AT LEAST A FOOT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. WE HAD SOME COMMENTS, UM, AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF POTENTIAL CONDITIONS THAT THE MATERIAL BE REQUIRED TO BE WOOD. IT'S MR. BOARD HAS FOUND SOME OTHER APPLICATIONS 'CAUSE THE VISUAL IMPLICATIONS AND IMPOSITION OF A BRIGHT LIGHT VINYL FENCE BEING A FOOT OFF THE SIDEWALK IS MUCH DIFFERENT FROM SORT OF A FADED WOOD FENCE. WHICH ONE IS IN THE LANDSCAPE A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UM, AND THEN WE WERE ALSO, UH, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK, RIGHT? SO THIS IS NOT RIGHT. IF IT WERE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MOVED BACK. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD NEED TO GET A LEASER LICENSE AGREEMENT FROM THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS. SO THE HR LA WOULD ANYWAY. OKAY, SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR MOTION FROM THE BOARD. WE'RE THINKING. I UNDERSTOOD. AND DID, DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD AGREE TO PUT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AROUND? YEAH, LIKE THERE'S NOTHING IN FRONT OF THAT I CAN PUT. OKAY. YOU KNOW THAT MM-HMM . SOMEBODY THAT'S BETTER AT LANDSCAPING AND MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING LIKE HIDE. IS THAT THE IDEA? TO HIDE THE FENCE? MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND SOFTEN MORE THAN HIDE. UNDERSTOOD. A ROW OF SOLID HARBOR CAN BE AS SO SOMETHING WORTH. JUST TRY TO BREAK THAT UP. OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SOME SUPER CHANNEL. YEP. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. I'LL SECOND WITH THAT. THANK YOU MR. RICHARDS. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. MARON? AYE. MR. RICK? AYE. MS. LUMBO? AYE. MR. MEHI? AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN WILL AYE APPROVED. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER HERE. SO THE NEXT APPLICATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IS FOR JANET MCCAFFERTY 16 ROBINSON ROAD SINKING A ZONING INTERPRETATION OF SECTION FIVE 19 D ONE AND SUBSEQUENTLY SEVERAL BULK VARIANCES FOR FRONT SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACKS FOR THE CONSTRUCTIONS OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN THE RGD TWO ZONE DISTRICT. YES, MR. WIL. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE. YOU TOO. CHRIS NORMAN. I'M THE, UH, LAW FIRM OF THE PLAT LAW GROUP ON BEHALF OF JANET PROPERTY AND MY CLIENT. SHE'S SWEAR. ABSOLUTELY MA'AM. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. JANET MCCAFFERTY. M-C-C-L-A-F-F-E-R-T-Y. BACK TO YOU COUNSEL. OKAY. THIS APPLICATION IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE 'CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BIFURCATED PROCESS. THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT THERE, THERE, MY, MY CLIENT AND CONTRACT PURCHASER OF A LOT THAT'S NEXT TO ANOTHER LOT. BUT BOTH OF THE LOTS ARE UNDERSIZED. BOTH LOTS EACH HAVE AN EXISTING DWELLING ON 'EM. ONE IS OCCUPIED BY THE FISHERS AND MS. MS. FISHER AND MR. CODY WHO ARE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM. UH, THEY'RE THE CURRENT OCCUPANTS. AND THE LOT THAT MY CLIENT IS PURCHASING IS, IS CURRENTLY IT'S UNINHABITED, IT'S IN DILAPIDATED CONDITION. IT'S IN THE OLD COLONY CLUB NEIGHBORHOOD AT 16 ROBINSON MILL ROAD OR ROBINSON ROAD. FIRST, WE'RE SEEING A ZONING INTERPRETATION THAT THERE'S NO LOT MERGER BECAUSE IF THERE IS LOT MERGER THEN THERE'S BASICALLY ONE LOT WITH TWO HOUSES ON IT AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A SUBDIVISION AND THE APPLICATION WOULD HAVE TO GO FORWARD PLANNING BOARD. CORRECT? UH, IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT THE LOCKER DOCTRINE DOES NOT APPLY, WE'RE IN FRONT OF THE RATED BOARD WITH THE ZONING BOARD AND WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE BULK VARIANCES TO CONSTRUCT THE HOME BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER SIZE LOT. THIS IS A LOT WHERE THE ORIGINAL HOME WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1937. IT'S, IT'S 0.189 ACRES OF THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE ACRE IN THE RT. TWO ZONE [00:45:01] IS AN ACRE AND A HALF. AND I CAN TELL YOU MORE THAN PREDOMINANTLY AND JAN'S GONNA PROVIDE TESTIMONY, SHE'S, SHE'S DONE A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON THIS THAT IN THE OLD POLLY CLUB, MOST OF THE HOMES DO NOT HAVE CONFORMING LOT SIZES. IN FACT, IT'S, UH, IT, IT'S, I THINK ONLY SHE, SHE DID A, UH, UH, MEASUREMENT ACCOUNTING ON 127 LOTS. ONLY SIX OF 'EM HAVE CONFORMING LOT ZONES. SO WE BELIEVE THAT FROM ANY OBJECTIVE PERSPECTIVE THAT THERE IS NO LOT MERGER BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHEME WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE ZONING CHANGED. AND THE ZONING CHANGED IN 1980 WHEN THE PINE LANDS COMMISSION CAME INTO BE. AND THE PINE LANDS ALL OF A SUDDEN DOWNS ON JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IN MEDFORD AND ANYWHERE ELSE IN PINELANDS. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE LOTS STILL EXIST. UH, SO THAT, THAT'S THE SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION. AND, AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO, UH, ASK SOME QUESTIONS TO JANET. ALRIGHT, JANET, WHERE WHERE DO YOU RESIDE CURRENTLY? THREE SANDRA RI IN MOUNT LAUREL, NEW JERSEY. OKAY. ARE YOU THE CONTRACT PERSON YOU SERVED OF THIS PROPERTY AT 16 ROBINSON? MY HUSBAND AND I ARE, HE'S ALSO HERE. OKAY. AND HOW BIG IS THE LOT? POINT ONE? NINE ACRES. OKAY. AND WHAT'S ON THE PROPERTY TODAY? UM, IT'S GOT A DILAPIDATED HOME, UM, THAT SHE SAID WAS BUILT 1937 AND IT'S BASICALLY UNINHABITABLE. OKAY. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR DEVELOPING THIS LAW? UM, MY HUSBAND AND I WANT TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND BUILD A MODEST SIZE, A ONE AND A HALF STORY HOME. UH, 1480 1000, FOUR 80 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY GLO. UM, THE DILAPIDATION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE, AND I KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN SOME PICTURES OR SUBMITTED SOME, UM, THAT WAS THE PHOTO THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION. JUST BLEW IT UP. OKAY. WOULDN'T PHONE UP. AND, AND THE HOME YOU PROPOSED A 1,480 SQUARE FOOT HOME WAS NOTED IN, UH, MS. TAYLOR'S REPORT. IT WOULD BE TWO BEDROOM WHILE WITH A BASEMENT FIRST FLOOR AT ALSO PARTIAL STORY. YES. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LARGE HOME WITH A LOT OF CARS PARKED IN, IN THE DRIVEWAY. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A RETIREMENT HOME FOR SOMETHING, CORRECT? YES, PRECISELY. AND OKAY. AND WHO'S GONNA RESIDE IN THE HOME? MY HUSBAND AND I AND OUR DOG, . OKAY. UM, THERE'S TWO BEDROOMS, UM, TWO BATHROOMS. UM, YEAH. OKAY. WHAT OTHER FEATURES WOULD THE NEW DWELLING HAVE? UM, IT'S GOT A DECK AND A WALKOUT BASEMENT. OKAY. AND THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE LAKE? YES. ON LAKE, CORRECT, YES. OKAY. UH, IN, IN THE PROCESS OF DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON PURCHASE, DID YOU CONSULT THE OLD COLONY? OLD TAUNT AND COLONY CLUB, UH, IN ADVANCE OF FILING THIS APPLICATION? MANY TIMES. UM, WE MET WITH HIM ON ZOOM A COUPLE OF TIMES, UM, INITIALLY AND THEN WE ALSO MET IN PERSON. UM, WE MET ON THE PROPERTY TO DISCUSS OUR PLANS PRELIMINARILY AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH WITH THE ENGINEER AND THE SEPTIC DESIGNER, OF COURSE, THINGS, YOU KNOW, SHIMMY AROUND A LITTLE BIT WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. UM, BUT YEAH, WE MET WITH THEM. UM, GOSH, AT LEAST THEY HAD A DOZEN TIMES. OKAY. WHAT ISSUES DID YOU ADDRESS IN THIS PROCESS? THEIR MAIN CONCERN WAS THEY WANTED THE HOUSE TO BE 20 FEET AWAY FROM THE LAKE AND ALSO THE DECK, THERE'S A DECK IN THE FRONT. THEY WANTED EVERYTHING 20 FEET. THAT'S JUST KIND OF THEIR, THEIR MANTRA. AND THEY WANTED NO DISTURBANCE OF THE, UH, EXISTING VEGETATION. UM, SO OF COURSE WE AGREED TO THAT. WE HAD TO MODIFY OUR PLANS A LITTLE BIT. UM, THEY ALSO WERE OF COURSE, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED WITH THE TREES. WE, THEY DO HAVE A TREE REPLACEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS IN THEIR HOA REGULATIONS. SO WE MET WITH THEM AND WE SUBMITTED, I THINK THAT THE APPLICATION, OUR TREE REPLACEMENT, RENEWAL REPLACEMENT PLAN. AND THEY APPROVED IT ATATING AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SUBMITTED INTO EVIDENCE. IT JUST, IT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION. WE HAVE IT. OKAY. I HAVE EXTRA COPIES OF IT IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT. BASICALLY IT SHOWS YOU WHICH TREES ARE GONNA BE REMOVED AND WHICH ONES WOULD BE REPLACED IN THAT PROCESS IF, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. DID YOU ALREADY HAVE IT ? UM, DID THE HOA POSE ANY OBJECTIONS TO YOUR PLAN? ONCE WE, UM, AGREED WITH THE 20 FEET, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WANTED EVERYTHING 20 FEET BACK, UM, AND MADE THE CHANGES TO OUR PLAN, UM, THEY DID HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS. IN FACT, THEY, OF COURSE THEY SIGNED THE FORM, WHICH THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT IN PLACE BEFORE WE DID THE, EACH OF THE COURTESY. OKAY. AND ANOTHER AGENCY YOU HAVE TO CONSULT IS THE BROLIN TO COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH FOR A SEPTIC APPROVAL FOR A 0.19 ACRE BLOCK. CORRECT? YES. DID YOU OBTAIN THE, A COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH APPROVAL FOR THE S YES, WE DID. OKAY. WHAT DID THE BOARD OF THE COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH REQUIRE? [00:50:01] SO THEY REQUIRE IT TO BE 50 FEET AWAY FROM THE OTHER SEPTIC, UM, SYSTEMS, UH, OF OUR NEIGHBORS. AND THEY ALSO REQUIRED TO BE, UH, 25 FEET FROM THE PORTION OF THE WALKOUT BASEMENT. ACTUALLY FROM ANY BASEMENT IT'S 25 FEET. SO WE HAD TO BASICALLY CONVERT A PORTION OF OUR BASEMENT INTO A SLAB BECAUSE YOU CAN BE 15 FEET FROM THE SLAB. THAT ALL MAKES SENSE. SO IT WAS REALLY SHIFTING THINGS AROUND. UM, BUT WE MET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND 20 FEET FROM ROBINSON ROAD AS WELL. 20 FEET FROM THE ROAD? YES. PARDON ME. OKAY. AND PREVIOUSLY THE 1937 LOW ST WALL THAT'S ON THERE, THAT WAS SERVICED BY CESSPOOL AND THAT, THAT WE REMOVED AS PART OF THE PLAN. OKAY. SO YOU DESIGNED THE LAYOUT OF THE HOME ON THE LOT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE HOA AS WELL AS THE BRO COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT? YES. OKAY. AND INCLUDING THE SUBMISSION OF THE OLD TREE PRESERVATION THING. RIGHT. WHICH IS, WHICH IS, I MEAN, LIVING ON THE LAKE, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL. WE UNDERSTAND. RIGHT. OKAY. WHAT TYPE OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES DO YOU PROPOSE? SO WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY SHEDS OF ANY KIND THAT HAD BEEN QUESTIONED, I THINK IN THE PLANNING, UM, CONSULTANTS, UM, LETTER. UM, WE DON'T PROPOSE ANY SHEDS. UM, SHE MENTIONED ABOUT HVAC EQUIPMENT AND WE CAN PUT THAT UNDER THE DECK OF THE RAMP. THERE'S GONNA BE A RAMP IF YOU GET, UM, SO WE DID, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES. UM, WE DID, UM, INDICATE AS PART OF HER LETTER, SHE COMMENTED ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL LOT COVERAGE. SO WE DID REQUEST ADDITIONAL COVERAGE, UM, ANTICIPATING, UM, THE NEED FOR WALKWAYS, UM, TO THE PARKING, UM, TO FROM THE HOUSE TO THE DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. AND THEN FROM THE HOUSE TO THE DOCK. OKAY. TO AN EVENTUAL DOCK AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING. THE TOP, THERE'S NO, AND AND NOTWITHSTANDING FOR, FOR A LOT THAT'S 0.19 ACRES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ONLY INCREASING LOT COVERAGE BY 7.2%. RIGHT. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT, AND EVEN THE COVERAGE RATIO ON THE, ON THE WORKSHEET. UM, BUT IT'S A PERSONAL LOT. IT REALLY IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER CLAIMS ON ROBINSON ROAD AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE COVERAGE. OKAY. AND THE PROPERTY YOU'RE PURCHASING SEEING IS OWNED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNING OWNER OF MR. CODY AND MS. FISHER? YES. ARE BOTH YOUR LOT AND THE FISHER'S CODY'S LOT BOTH UNDERSIZED NOT BEING THE ONE AND A HALF ACRE REQUIREMENT? YES. OKAY. WAS THERE AN EVER AN INTENT TO MERGE THESE LOTS? THE OWNERS HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY NEVER INTENDED TO MERGE THESE LOTS. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND THEY'VE ALWAYS INTENDED THEM TO BE SEPARATE. UM, THE STRUCTURE AS IT STANDS, IT'S DILAPIDATED, BUT IT'S THERE. CAN I JUST JUMP AND ASK ONE QUESTION? DO YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF THE NEIGHBOR, OF THE OWNER'S ALTERNATE LOT? HOW, HOW LARGE THAT IS ARE HERE? UM, BECAUSE THAT'LL REALLY HELP THAT, THAT'LL HELP SOLVE WHETHER OR NOT THE MERGER APPLIED. JUST FOR THE, JUST FOR THE BOARD. I'M GONNA, I JUST WANNA TELL THE BOARD WHAT, DO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MERGER DOCTRINE IS IN THE FIRST PLACE? SO WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US A 1 0 1? SO WE'RE PAGE, SO THE LOCKTON MERGER DOCTRINE, WHAT THAT SAYS IS WHEN TWO UNDERSIZED LOTS ARE OWNED IN COMMON OWNERSHIP FOR PURPOSES OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE DEEMED TO BE MERGED WHEN THE MERGING OF THE TWO PROPERTIES CREATES A CONFORMING LOT OR CLOSE TO A CONFORMING LOT. SO THAT'S WHY MY QUESTION IS, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A 0.19 ACRE LOT, BUT THEY'RE ABOUT IS IN THE SAME BALLPARK. YEAH. ONE THREE ACRES. SO IT'S STILL NOT 1.5 ACRES. IT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE. NOT EVEN CLOSE. BUT THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THAT. THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING JUST TO SOLVE IT RIGHT OUT THE BEGINNING. 'CAUSE IF THEY CAME IN AND SAID THAT THEIR PROPERTY WAS ONE ACRE AND YOU GOT 0.19, THAT THAT'S THE, AND AT THAT POINT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT'S WHAT THE LEFT LOCKER DOCTRINE SAYS. BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO IT THAT THE COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED. AND THE EXAMPLE IS THESE AND, AND, AND, AND THESE ARE BASED ON OBJECTIVE THINGS. IF SOMEONE OWNS A LOT HERE AND THERE'S A T LOT BASED IN HERE, NO ONE'S GONNA MERGE A LOT THAT'S ADJOINING, THAT'S FACED LIKE THIS. THE OTHER ONE IS THE L LOT WHERE SOMEONE OWNS A LOT THAT FRONTS ON THIS STREET AND THIS LOT FRONTS ON A DIFFERENT STREET THAT, SO COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED EXCEPTIONS. WE BELIEVE THE EXCEPTION IS PERTINENT TO HERE IS VIRTUALLY EVERY LOT IN OLD, OLD TAUNTON IS UNDERSIZED. RIGHT. EVERYONE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE ZONING IS ALMOST THE ALMOST SHOULD BE THE VARIANCE TO, TO THE RULE. THE RULE IS IS THESE ALL HOUSE, THESE LOTS ALL HAVE HOUSES ON 'EM. UM, AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S A UNIQUE PART OF THE EXCEPTION IS, IS IS IF ONE OF THESE LOTS WERE VACANT, I I, I WOULD MIGHT LEAN [00:55:01] TO AN INTERPRETATION THAT THAT WOULD MERGE WITH THE OTHER LOT BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING CLOSER TO PEOPLE FORMING LOT. BUT WHEN THEY BOTH HAVE AN EXISTING HOUSE ON 'EM THAT SHOWS NO INTENT TO MERGE. THAT'S, THAT'S JUST OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE THAT IT, IT SHOULD STAY THE WAY IT IS. AND IF THERE'S NO NEED TO GO BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A SUBDIVISION AND NO NEED TO GO BACK TO THE PINELANDS COMMISSION AND HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, AND IN THIS CASE, ONE IS OCCUPIED AND ONE IS RIGHT. RIGHT. YES, YES. SO, SO I, OKAY, SO I'M GONNA CONTINUE WITH MY QUESTIONING IF THEY WANNA TALK, WE'LL JUST HAVE NICE TO MEET . UM, YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A SEAT, I THINK, ALICIA, IF YOU HAVE A SEAT OVER HERE AND IF WE NEED YOU, YOU CAN FILL, MAYBE FILL IN ANY, ANY UH, GAPS THAT, OR QUESTIONS THE BOARDS MAY HAVE. OKAY. UM, OKAY. DID YOU PREPARE A REPORT DETAILING THE LAST SIZE, THE DATE OF CONSTRUCTION OF ALL THE HOMES IN THE OLD I DID PREPARE THE REPORT. I WAS, I ABOUT A DOZEN HOMES SHOT. SO BASICALLY, OBVIOUSLY THE OLD, UH, COLONY CLUB WAS AROUND . SO I REFERRED TO AN ONLINE PROPERTY RECORD SOURCE AND I IDENTIFIED THE PROPERTIES AND I PREPARED THAT GRANT THAT I THINK WAS IN YOUR PACKAGE. SO THEY DON THE GRANT. BY THE WAY, SHE, SHE'S A DREAM CLIENT. SHE DOES THIS ALL ON HER OWN. I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO TELL HER TO DO IT. SHE'S VERY, BUT I'M SURE APPARENTLY. SO YOU SHOULD BE PAYING HER THEN. THANK YOU . OKAY. WHAT WERE YOUR FINDINGS FROM THE PREPARATION OF THAT REPORT? WELL, AND REALLY A LOT RELATED TO SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND THE REVOLUTION AND THE, THE CHANGING, UM, LOT SIZES AND, AND SETBACKS AND WHATNOT. SO I DID FIND THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT. UM, THERE'S QUITE A FEW HOMES IN OUR 0.20 AND LESS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THAT DOCK GRAPH, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF GO FROM THE SMALLER GUNS OVER AND THEN THERE'S A BUNCH THAT ARE IN THE 0.48 AREA BECAUSE I GUESS THAT WAS A LOT SIZE THAT WAS ALLOWED. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF 'EM, YOU, YOU DID A TOWN. UM, I, I HAD NOT DONE THAT. I WAS WORKING WITH THE PICTURE, SO I THOUGHT THAT REALLY SHOWED THE, THE LOT SIZE SITUATION AND I THINK THE 29 ACRE LOT, IT'S JUST CONSISTENT, ESPECIALLY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE 127 LOTS, ONLY SIX OF 'EM MEET THE ONE AND A HALF ACRE MINIMUM. LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT IS DEVELOP. CORRECT. RIGHT. 'CAUSE AS, AS YOU GO AWAY FROM THE LAKE, THE LOTS WERE DEVELOPED LATER AND THEN LITTLE BIT BIGGER. AND ROBINSON ROAD WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE OLDER PARTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY, THOSE THEY WERE BUILT IN I 30 AND 1940. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. OF THOSE NINE LOTS, FOUR OF THOSE LOTS ARE SMALLER THAN 0.19 ACRES. SO THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOTS EQUAL TO OR SMALLER THAN THIS LOT WHICH SHE'S SEEKING TO REBUILD A HOME OF THE SAME SIZE MM-HMM . CORRECT? YES. SIMILAR SIZE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, DOES THIS SUPPORT AN OBJECTIVE INTERPRETATION THAT THE LOCKER DOCUMENT SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED? I BELIEVE IT DOES. OKAY. IS THE PROPOSED LAST SIZE AND SIZE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING YOU PROPOSED TO CONSTRUCT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OF ROBINSON ROAD? YES. YES. AND, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE OLD QUANTUM COLONY? YES. WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS OF THE RGT ZONE DO NOT REFLECT THE EXISTING DEVELOPED CONDITIONS IN THE OLD COLONY? YES. OKAY. DOES THIS SUPPORT YOUR LEGAL ARGUMENT THAT THE LOCHNER DOCTRINE DOES NOT IMPLY? YES. OKAY. OKAY. UM, WITH REGARD TO THE BULK VARIANCES, UH, YOU'RE SEEKING BULK VARIANCES, WE RELIEF TO PERMIT THE CITING OF 180 SQUARE FOOTING ON THIS 0.1 AND EIGHT CURVE LEFT? YES. OKAY. ON WHAT GROUNDS ARE YOU SEEKING THE RELIEF? IT'S REALLY ONLY HARDSHIP GROUNDS. UM, YOU REALLY CAN'T, CAN'T DEVELOP ON THE LOT FROM THE SIDE SETBACKS TO THE FRONT AND THE REAR SETBACKS. THE EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT DOESN'T HAVE THOSE, THOSE SETBACKS RIGHT NOW. UM, SO APPROVAL, UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL REQUIRED THAT THE SEPTIC SYSTEM BE IN SUCH A POSITION THAT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF HAD TO MAKE THEM, UH, FIT TOGETHER. SO HAVING, TRYING TO PUT ANY OTHER, THE LOT ANYWHERE ELSE, PARDON ME, THE HOUSE, ANYWHERE ELSE, IT, IT WOULD JUST BE TOO DIFFICULT. AND AGAIN, WE MET WITH HOA AND THEY HAD THEIR REQUIREMENTS, EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS NOT DEED RESTRICTED, [01:00:01] THE CURRENT OWNERS HAVE THE DEED AND IT'S NOT DEED RESTRICTED, BUT WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO COMPLY, BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THEY WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THE, THE LAKE FIRM. SO, UM, NOT SO THAT UNDER HARDSHIP, UM, WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD MAKE IT NOT POSSIBLE TO DEVELOP A HOME WITHOUT THIS BULK VARIANCE ROOM. OKAY. AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT WITH BULK VARIANCE IS IF IT'S THE FLEXIBLE C VARIANCE, WHICH MEANS THAT WHAT YOU PROPOSE REPRESENTS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, THEN, THEN, THEN A CONFORMING PLAN, WHICH IS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE IN THIS SITUATION. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE DEMOLITION OF THIS UNSIGHTLY DWELLING, WHICH HAS BEEN THERE FOR PROBABLY DECADES, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE UNTIL THERE'S A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO REPLACE IT. DO YOU THINK THE BENE THE, THE DESIRABLE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT'S GONNA BE A BE AVE NET BENEFIT TO THE HOTEL? YES, WE DO. AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE HOA, WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT EVEN JUST, YOU KNOW, THE COLOR OF THE HOME. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH, YOU KNOW, I FIRST TIMES, YOU KNOW, BROWNS, YOU KNOW, GRAY, YOU KNOW, COLORS NOT SOMETHING SHOCKING. YOU MENTIONED A WHITE FENCE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE MENTIONED A WHITE FENCE. SO WE'RE REALLY, UM, GONNA FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE OTHER HOMES, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND THE COLORS. IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON ROBINSON ROAD DETRIMENT NOW? I I THINK THIS IS UNSIGHTLY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S SET BACK FROM THE ROOM A LITTLE BIT. NO. WHAT YOU PROPOSED TO DO? NO, NO BUT NO DETRIMENT TO THE UPGRADE? NO. OKAY. NO. AND IT, IT'S, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ON THE STREET AND, AND PRETTY MUCH WITHIN THE OLD TALL CALL. YES. THAT'S, YES. AND, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT IN BEDFORD, BECAUSE I DO A LOT OF RUNNING IN THE TOWN, BIRCHWOOD LAKES, THERE'S LOTS OF HOUSES IN BIRCHWOOD AND PEOPLE COME IN ALL THE TIME, THEY DO TEAR DOWNS OR THEY BUILD ADDITIONS MM-HMM . AND WE THINK THAT THIS SORT OF FITS THIS THE SAME THEME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. OKAY. UM, ANYTHING WITH LIGHTING? I KNOW THAT WAS NOTED IN MICHELLE TAYLOR REPORT. YES. YES. AND WE CERTAINLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LIGHTING PLAN, BUT WE HAD SUBMITTED A LETTER. I THINK IT SHOULD BE IN, IT'S A, A RESPONSE LETTER TO THE REPORT MAYBE? YES. YEAH. UH, RESPONSE LETTER WAS PRODUCED AND HAS ON RECORD. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. SO WE DID RESPOND THAT CERTAINLY WE WILL HAVE, WE DIDN'T, DON'T HAVE A PLAN, BUT WE AGREED TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE LETTING RECOMMENDATIONS IN HER LETTER. UM, FULL CUT OFF, DIRECT, DOWNWARD, LOW ON MORE COLOR THAT. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING IN, IN MS. TAYLOR'S REPORT THAT YOU OBJECTED? NO. OKAY. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING IN HER REPORT YOU YOU'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE? OKAY. I WAS DOING HOMEWORK. IT'S GONNA PUT ME ON THE SPOT TOO. , SHE, SHE, SHE DID RECOMMEND FOR EFFICIENCY AND I'M AN ACCOUNTANT SO I LOVE EFFICIENCY. SHE DID RECOMMEND THAT WE INCLUDE A, THAT WE INCLUDE A REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL MOCK COVERAGE. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY SMART AND, AND I APPRECIATE HER FOLLOW THIS, RIGHT? OR YOU WANNA KEEP TRACK OF THESE THINGS 'CAUSE YOU CAN GET CREEPING ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AND THEN NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THESE U HUGE BLOCK COVERAGE DIFFERENCES AND THEN THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHAT TO YOUR ZONING STANDARDS MATTER IF YOU GIVEN VARIANCES ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO, RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZES OUR APPLICATION IF, UNLESS THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL LISTEN TO MR. TAYLOR'S REPORT THAT MR. TAYLOR GO FIRST. I THINK IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. THE, UH, APPLICANT AND COUNSEL HAVE ADDRESSED, UH, THE COMMENTS AND AGREE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE CHANGES AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE PLAN. UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING A SHED BASED ON THE VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUESTED. UH, A SHED IN THE FUTURE WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE A VARIANCE FOR LOT COVERAGE THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK. SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT THAT IF THE COURT WERE TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THAT AS A REMINDER TO THIS APPLICANT AND, AND FUTURE OWNERS. UM, ARE YOU SAYING TO PUT IT IN APPROVE? NO, NO. I'M SAYING JUST AS A REMINDER THAT THIS APPROVAL DOES NOT INCLUDE A SHED. ANY REQUEST FOR A SHED GOTCHA. WOULD'VE TO RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR NOT COVERAGE HEARINGS. COMPLETELY ACCEPT. MM-HMM . PATRICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE. YOU CAN OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC AND OBJECTION. WELL, YEAH. I WANNA TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. FIRST ONE QUESTION. IS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE H CURRENT HOUSE THERE NOW STAYING THE SAME, OR IS THAT TOTALLY BEING ABANDONED AND DESTROYED AND START OVER FROM SCRATCH? THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CURRENT HOUSE IS CLOSER TO THE LAKE AND IT'S A LITTLE TILTED. SO YES, THAT'S GONNA BE DESTROYED AND REMOVED. OKAY. AND YOU'RE STARTING OVER FROM FRESH. 'CAUSE AGAIN, THE HOA WANTS TO 20 FEET BACK UNDERSTAND. SO I THINK UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN ACTUAL, MAYBE IT'S 13 FEET, [01:05:01] SO THERE'S AN EXTRA SIX FEET TO MOVE BACK. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE BOARD QUESTIONS. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A SEAT AND WE'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. COME ON UP. YOU STATE YOUR NAME, BE SWORN IN. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM AND TELL THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. THANK I'M SO SHORT. SORRY. KATHY WARE. KATHY MCKAY. IT'S WRE. GOT IT. TAKE IT AWAY. MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE, UM, WHEN MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY LAST OCTOBER, BUT, UM, I YOUR LAST NAME WHERE? I'M SORRY. YES, THANK YOU. UM, I LIVE AT SIX, UH, 14 ROBINSON ROAD. UH, JAN WAS VERY NICE TO ALWAYS KEEP ME ABREAST AND ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AND WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I REALLY SINCERELY APPRECIATED THAT. UM, I, I HAVE, WE, I NOW HAVE TWO LOTS, BUT HE STILL HAS MY HUSBAND'S NAME ON IT IS 2.01 AND 2.02. UM, MY ONLY, I ONLY HAD ONE ACTUALLY. I TALKED TO JAN ABOUT JUAN CNN INTO MY SKYLIGHTS IN MY GUEST BATHROOM. BUT THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, A CONCERN THAT I HAD. UM, AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME. IT'S JUST RUN THE RUNOFF WHEN THEY, UM, BUILD A HOME. I DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE TO OUR, OUR PROPERTY, THE RUN. 'CAUSE I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE 10 FEET FROM THE, FROM THE FOUNDATION AS A RUNOFF. I'M JUST AS CONCERNED IF THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A SWALE OR SOMETHING DIRECT THAT, TO DIRECT THAT WATER AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. THAT'S ALL. I MEAN, HONESTLY, I'M VERY HAPPY TO HAVE A NICE HOME, PUT THERE INSTEAD OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S THERE WITH IT, A DILAPIDATED HOME. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN, UH, WE, I WAS THERE FOR FIVE YEARS. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S BEEN IN THIS CONDITION THAT WHOLE TIME. IT'S BEEN IN THAT CONDITION. I DO BELIEVE MARIAN'S TOLD ME LIKE 19 YEARS. RIGHT. 20 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. OF COURSE, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY. AND MY HOME WAS BUILT AND OUR, OUR HOME WAS BUILT IN 1950. OKAY. SO, YEAH, THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ENGINEER. I, YEAH. YEAH. THERE IS LAND INFORMANT S SWALES, UH, SHOWN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY THAT DIRECT THE WATER TOWARD ON THE LAKE. AND A HOT MAN, UH, CREATED WILL BE, BE, WILL NEED TO BE SUBMITTED, UH, TO THE TOWNSHIP WHO REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEER FOR APPROVAL TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO INCREASE IN RUNOFF ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AWESOME. THAT'S ALL QUESTION I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? AND YEAH. YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THAT? I'D REALLY BE HAPPY TO HAVE A NICE HOME NEXT DOOR. US . MAYBE THEY'LL EVEN INVITE YOU OVER. OH, WE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ACTUALLY. WE TALKED. MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY. HEY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR SURE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE CLOSED MOTION? THANK YOU MR. RICKARDS. SECOND. THANK YOU MS. AMMA. ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED? OKAY, COME BACK UP. WELL, ESSENTIALLY I, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR, I GUESS YOU TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT IT WOULD BE A REQUEST FOR A MOTION THAT THE LOCKED DOCTRINE DOES NOT APPLY AND THAT THE BOARD WOULD GRANT THE BOTH. FOR INSTANCE, YOU COULD PROBABLY DO IT IN CONSOLIDATED MOTION. THAT'S EXACTLY IT, YEAH. . YEAH. UNLESS YOU DECIDE THAT THE LOCK DOCTRINE DOES APPLY AND THEN THE BOARD LACKS JURISDICTION AND THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND DO ALL WITH NO S**T. UM, WHO WOULD CARE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS APPLICATION? ONE OF MY FINE PEOPLE. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION ON BOTH, BOTH COUNTS. UM, THAT IT DOES NOT APPLY THE DOCTRINE, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. AND, UH, THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED AS WELL AS THE ALL, ALL THE UH, LETTER CORRESPONDENCE WITH NO ACCESSORIES DONE WITH NO ACCESSORY SUBSTRUCTURES. CAN I HAVE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. MEMBER ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MORRISON? AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. LUMBO? AYE. MR. ME AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN WALKER. HI. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT. THANK YOU. AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. YEAH, YOU TOO. THANKS GREG. I LIKE THAT PROJECT NEIGHBORS TO COME. YEAH. AND, AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. UM, OKAY. THE NEXT APPLICATION FOR THIS EVENING WILL BE, UH, MICHAEL LEVINTON 1 54 TOTON BOULEVARD, SEEKING BOTH VARIANCES FOR FRONT SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS AND BUILDING AND LOT COVERAGES ON AN UNDERSIZED LOT FOR [01:10:01] THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY. DWELLING IN THE GD IS ZONING DISTRICT. ALL THREE PROVIDE TESTIMONY. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU ALL SWEAR OR AFFIRM, TELL TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES, SIR. I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST, STARTING WITH MR. ADAMSON. UH, JOSEPH ADAMSON. A DA IM SO NM, PRINCIPAL OF ADAMSON REBA WEB ARCHITECTS. AND SIR? UH, MIKE LEVISON. LEV GREGORY AND TOYOTA. AND YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR. YOU SIR DANIEL PATTERSON. I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING OFFICER WHO'S GONNA TESTIFY FIRST. FIRST, SORRY. COULD YOU JUST PLEASE BEFORE WE BEGIN, PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF YOUR EXPERTISE AND CREDENTIALS? UM, OKAY. SO I HAVE A DEGREE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING FROM HUNTERS UNIVERSITY. HAVE A DEGREE IN LANCE SURVEY FROM NEW JERSEY INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY. I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND LANCE SURVEYOR. I HAVE BEEN FOR OVER A DECADE, UH, CURRENTLY OWN MY OWN PRACTICE CALLED PATTERSON SURVEYING IN ENGINEERING, LOCATED IN BEDFORD, NEW JERSEY. AND, UH, PROVIDED EXPERT WITNESS TESTIMONY BEFORE NUMEROUS LANGUAGE BOARDS INCLUDING THIS BOARD. BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS CORRECT. THE BOARD RECOMMEND THE BOARD ACCEPT HIS CREDENTIALS AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES. SO, ALRIGHT. THE APPLICANT, UH, PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A, UH, TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING DWELLING CONSTRUCT A NEW DWELLING AT 1 54 TO BOULEVARD LOCK 33 0 9, LOCK FOUR. UM, THE REASON WE'RE HERE IS, UH, IT'S AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING LOCK. IT'S BASICALLY UNDERSIZED IN EVERY ASPECT. NONE OF THE, UH, BULK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LOCK DIMENSIONS ARE CONFORMANCE OF THE WAY THE CURRENT ZONING IS WRITTEN. SO EVEN THE EXISTING GLOCK IS, UH, LARGELY NONCONFORMING. I THINK IT ONLY HAS ONE CONFORMING CONDITION IN THE REAR GUARD. UH, SO BY WAY OF REDEVELOPING THE SITE WITH A SLIGHTLY LARGER STRUCTURE OR INCURRING, UH, NEED FOR VARIANCES FOR, UH, ALL THE BULK REQUIREMENTS, UH, AS INDICATED ON THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED. SO VARIANCES FOR FRONT YARD, ONE SIDE YARD, THE COMBINED SIDE YARD, THE REAR YARD, AND ALSO THE BUILDING COVER AND IMPERVIOUS COVER. I'LL NOTE, UM, THE IMPERIOUS COVER WERE ACTUALLY, UH, DECREASING FROM WHAT'S EXISTING, UH, BY WAY OF REMOVING SOME UNNEEDED CONCRETE AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE BACKYARD. UH, WE'RE GONNA SORT OF TIGHTEN THAT UP. UH, WE'RE REMOVING SOME UNNEEDED GRAVEL IN THE FRONT, UH, BUT WE'RE STILL PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING. UH, WE JUST THOUGHT IT WASN'T NECESSARY TO KEEP ALL THAT THERE. UH, SORT OF IN EXCHANGE FOR INCREASING BUILDING COVER, UM, WE RECEIVED A REVIEW LETTER FROM TAYLOR, UH, WHICH I WENT THROUGH AND HAD PROVIDED RESPONSES, UH, WHICH I'LL SORT OF GO OVER NOW. THE FIRST COMMENT WAS BASICALLY TO EXPLAIN THE NEED FOR VARIANCES, WHICH I BEGUN TO OUTLINE ALREADY. UH, WE WOULD REQUEST THESE SINGLE ONE VARIANCES BASED ON HARDSHIP DUE TO THE NARROWNESS AND UNDERSIZED NATURE OF THE LOT. IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING THE WAY OUT. UM, WE DON'T FEEL THAT IT WOULD CAUSE ANY DETRIMENT 'CAUSE WE'RE REALLY NOT, THERE'S A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE SIDE YARDS, BUT, AND, AND THERE'S AN REDUCTION IN THE REAR YARD, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. UM, THERE'S NO AVAILABLE LAND TO PURCHASE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF LOCK. WHAT ELSE? UH, ONE, ONE THING THAT DID COME UP WAS WE HAD NOT PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGES ON THE, UH, LOCK COVER FOR HVAC PADS AND SIDEWALKS AND POTENTIALLY A, UH, FUTURE NEED FOR A SHED, WHICH WAS TOUCHED ON BY THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION. SO I TOOK THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND REVISED THE PLAN TO INCLUDE THOSE. AND EVEN SO WITH [01:15:01] THAT INCREASE, WE STILL MAINTAIN THE DECREASE IN THE PREVIOUS COVER, BUT WE ARE SEEKING, HAVE AN ALLOWANCE FOR FUTURE STORAGE SHED UP TO, UH, A HUNDRED, UH, 192 SQUARE FEET, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED. JUST SO IF A FUTURE HONOR WANTS TO COME FORWARD, WE WON'T HAVE TO, UH, GO BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THAT. SO ARE YOU REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THAT? THAT IT'S INCLUDED IN THE COVERAGE VARIANCE, BUT IF YOU DON'T PERFORM, IF YOU DON'T CONSTRUCT IT WITHIN A YEAR, THE VARIANCE EXPIRES. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU GET FOREVER. WE DON'T NEED THAT. SO WE'LL JUST GO WITH THE OTHER PERCENTAGE THAT'S ON THERE. UH, WHAT ELSE? THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, GRADING AND DRAINAGE. WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT, UH, THE SITE GENERALLY DRAINS FROM THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OUT TO THE STREET, THE STREET BEING THE LOWEST POINT, AND THEN THE RUNOFFS CARRIED DOWN THE STREET TO AN INLAND ABOUT 200 FEET AWAY. UH, WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THOSE EXISTING DRAINAGE PATTERNS AND WE'VE DESIGNED A GRADING IN SUCH A WAY NOT TO ADVERSELY IMPACT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UH, WITH RESPECT TO TREE REMOVAL, I BELIEVE THERE'S, WELL, I KNOW THERE'S ONE TREE THAT WILL BE AFFECTED, UH, BY THE EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY AND WE'VE NOW DEMONSTRATED WE WILL HAVE ONE REPLACEMENT TREE. NOW I THINK THERE WERE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO, ARCHITECT. ALRIGHT, MR. ADAMSON, CAN YOU JUST PLEASE PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF YOUR EXPERTISE? SURE. I'M A LICENSED ARCHITECT IN NEW JERSEY. UM, I'VE BEEN LICENSED SINCE 2003. UM, I HAVE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF NUMEROUS BOARDS THROUGHOUT NEW JERSEY, INCLUDING THIS BOARD A NUMBER OF TIMES. OKAY. RECOMMEND THE BOARD, ACCEPT THEM AS REGISTERED ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. OKAY. A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON MY INVOLVEMENT. UM, MR. LATU, WHO WAS ALSO, UH, A RESIDENT OF MEDFORD, UM, APPROACHED ME TO RENOVATE THIS HOME. AND WE WENT OUT THERE. THE EXISTING HOME IS APPROXIMATELY 600 SQUARE FEET INTO A ONE BEDROOM BONE. UM, IT'S HAD SOME APPENDAGES ADDED ON THROUGH THE YEARS, UH, NAMELY LIKE A BACK ADDITION. THERE WAS A PORCH ADD TO THE BACK. SO, UH, IT'S IN A REALLY BAD SHAPE TO THE POINT WHERE I WOULDN'T TAKE THE JOB. UH, MR. MR LEVINSON ALSO SPOKE TO SOME OTHER CONTRACTORS IN TOWN, UM, WHO STATED SIMILAR, UH, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR EXPERIENCE. THEY, THEY WOULD NOT TAKE THE JOB EITHER. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH DAMAGE THAT, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE FEASIBLE THAN NOT THE HOME DOWN TO REBUILD. WITH THAT SAID, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE HOPE THE EXISTING HOME IS 600 SQUARE FEET. SO EVEN IF I WAS ABLE TO RENT IT THE HOME, I WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TONIGHT. WE WOULD BE EXPANDING IT. WE WOULD BE GOING UP. EVERYTHING'S NONCONFORMING. JUST THE COMBINED SETBACKS SIDE. SETBACKS ALONE ARE 60 FEET AND THE PROPERTY IS ONLY 50 FEET WIDE. SO LITERALLY ABUSE, NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE. SO, UM, AS I SAID, THE HOME IS QUESTIONABLE. SO IT WAS 600 SQUARE FEET, ONE BEDROOM. UH, MR. LEVITON ASKED YOU TO DESIGN A NEW HOME. WE DID A MODEST THREE BEDROOM RANCH. UM, THE, THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE HOME, I DON'T THINK EXCEEDS 16 FOOT SIX. SO AGAIN, WE TRIED KEEPING CHARACTER TO WHAT'S THERE NOW. AND, UM, THE SIDE SETBACKS, WE DID GO OUT A LITTLE BIT. I THINK WE INCREASED THE SIDE SETBACKS BY A FOOT ON EACH SIDE JUST TO MAKE A HOUSE, JUST TO CREATE SPACES THAT WERE ACTUALLY USABLE, UH, INSIDE THE HOME. NOW THERE'S, THERE'S SPACES THAT ARE JUST VERY SMALL. THE CEILING IS LIKE SIX FOOT 10, YOU KNOW, VERY TIGHT. SO, UH, SO OUR NEW HOME IS 1,350 SQUARE FEET. UH, SINGLE STORY, THREE BEDROOM LIVING SPACE, TWO BATHROOM. UH, WE HAVE A FRONT PORCH SIMILAR TO WHAT'S THERE NOW. AND WE HAVE A REAR DECK JUST ON COVER. UM, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ON HERE FOR ME REGARDING, UH, TESTIMONY TO PROVIDE REGARDING THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURE AND COLORS TO THE STRUCTURE. UM, RIGHT NOW THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS A WHITE HOME. UH, TO THE LEFT, TO THE RIGHT IS A BROWN HOME. AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S A GRAY HOME. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS THAT I CAN PASS AROUND. ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL MARK THEM AS EXHIBIT WHERE WE HAVE TWO A 12. WE'LL MARK RENDERINGS AS EXHIBIT A 1202 COLOR COPIES AND TWO BLACK WHITE. [01:20:04] UH, THERE WAS ALSO, UM, ANOTHER COMMENT ON HERE THAT'S STATED. THE BUILDING IS VERY RECLINE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIREPLACE AND THE FRONT PORCH. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE SHAPE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WOULD ONLY EXACERBATE THE SIDE SETBACKS EVEN MORE. SO WE DECIDED TO REALLY JUST KEEP THIS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. UH, MR. LEVINTON USE THIS AS, AS A RENTAL PROPERTY. UM, HE CURRENTLY HAD A TENANT IN THERE NOW. UM, LIKE I SAID, THE PROPERTY IS TO A POINT WHERE IT'S ALMOST UNUSABLE FOR THIS TENANT TO USE HIM ANYMORE. SO HE'S TRYING TO CREATE A SAFE STRUCTURE FOR OUR PEOPLE. USE. OR DID BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY QUESTION? ASK HER COPIES OF THAT. ONE'S BLACK AND WHITE. ONE COLOR BOARD MEMBERS ALL GET ONE OR, OR JUST A BLACK. WE PASSED. WE PASSED. THERE'S STILL A COPY HERE, SCOTT, SO WE NEED, WE CAN HOLD ON TO THAT IF YOU WANT. DO YOU NEED ONE IN EVENTUALLY I'M GONNA GET A COPY OF EVERYTHING YOU HAVE OVER THERE. . YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE THAT. I'M GONNA GET JOE'S. YEAH, I'LL GIVE HER MINE. THAT'S FINE. WHAT'S THE INTENT OF THE DRIVEWAY? IS IT THAT WHOLE FRONT STILL HAVING TWO CIRCULAR PIECES OF IT? I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT, BUT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PLAN AND IT'S JUST LIKE THE WHOLE FRONT YARD IS A DRIVEWAY. IS THAT NOT ACCURATE? WELL, THAT'S EXISTING ALREADY, SO WE'RE RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING PORTIONS OF IT, BUT WE, EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. THAT'S A BUSY ROAD AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BACK OUT ON THAT ROAD. WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT. THE CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY YOU'RE KEEPING IS THAT YOU PULL OUT AND IT ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT BEING PAVED. IS IT GOING TO BE PAVED? YES, IT'S PROPOSED TO BE PAVED, YES. OKAY. BUT YOU STILL HAVE A DECREASE IN THE IMP IMPROVEMENTS. RIGHT. AND AS IT IS NOW, IT KIND OF EXTENDS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE BACK PRETTY FAR. IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY. OKAY. SO THAT'S GONNA RETURN TO ME WITH GRASS. MR. TAYLOR, ANY COMMENTS? UM, I, I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT IS, UH, THE LIGHT, AND I KNOW MR. ADAMSON GAVE TESTIMONY THAT ONE OF THE HOMES NEXT DOOR IS WHITE. UM, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AND I THINK MICHELLE'S TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ESPECIALLY IN LAKE PINE, WHERE THE PREDOMINANT CHARACTER IS LOCK CABIN AND STAIN LOCK CABINS. IT'S A VERY WARM RUSTIC PART OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHILE WHITE IS VERY TRENDY AND CURRENT RIGHT NOW, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE VARIANCES OR EXISTING NONCONFORMITIES FOR EVERY ZONING PARAMETER, I THINK MOVING AWAY FROM WHITE MAY BE A LITTLE LESS VISUALLY IMPACTFUL IN THAT MORE TOWARDS AN EARTH TONE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT CAN CONSIDER. IT MAY GET BETTER. , WE HAVE NO PROBLEM COMPLYING WITH THE, AN EARTH TONE. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER. ANY BOARD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I WANNA HAVE, HAVE A SEAT AND WE'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE? MOTION? THANK YOU MS. . SECOND. THANK YOU MR. RICKARDS. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ONE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. ANY OTHER LAST QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, MR. TAYLOR, IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH THE STONE DRIVEWAY GOING TO BE A PAVED DRIVEWAY, HAVING TWO CURB CUTOUTS AND HAVING THE CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY? I KNOW THAT THE ORDINANCE TODAY IS THAT, THAT'S NOT PREFERRED, BUT YOU'RE UPGRADING A CURRENT DRIVEWAY FROM ROCKS TO PAVE. DOES THAT, UM, NEED A VARIANCE SO TO SPEAK? IT CONSIDERED LONGER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REGS EXIT. IT'S [01:25:01] RE REMAINING AS, UM, REGULATED VEHICLE SURFACE. SO IT BE COUNTED FROM STORMWATER STANDPOINT AS IMPERVIOUS ALREADY. UM, IT IS AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING CONDITION. THEY ARE CHANGING IT. SO I THINK IF THE BOARD FELT THAT A, A SINGLE A, A SINGLE DRIVEWAY ACCESS WAS MORE APPROPRIATE, I THINK THE BOARD WOULD HAVE THAT RIGHT TO ASK THAT IN LIEU OF THE REQUEST FOR THE OTHER RELIEF. IT WOULD ADD SOME MORE GREEN SPACE. IT WOULD REDUCE, UM, SOME OF THAT IMPERVIOUS. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY BUSY ROAD AND I KNOW WE MADE AN EXCEPTION ACROSS THE STREET BASICALLY, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, IF WE NEED TO ADD A VARIANCE FOR THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE INCLUDED, IS KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT. I, I THINK BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING CONDITION, THE BOARD COULD PROBABLY NOTE THAT THE EXISTING, IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO LEAVE IT AS I, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GO INTO GO TO A BACKOUT. I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND EITHER A STRAIGHT IN DRIVEWAY WITH A HAMMER HEAD SO THAT TURNOUT MOVEMENT BECAUSE THE BACKOUT MOVEMENT ON TOM NOVARTIS IS THE PROBLEM. UM, BUT I THINK THE BOARD COULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING CONDITION THAT IS BEING ASPHALTED THAT WOULD COVER IT. DEFER MR. . HE WOULDN'T REQUIRE A VARIANCE IF HE'S NOT CHANGING THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF IT. IF HE'S JUST GOING FROM GRAVEL TO ASPHALT, HE DOESN'T REQUIRE IT. OKAY. IF HE ADDED ONE FOOT TO IT, HE WOULD NEED A VARIANCE IF HE MOVES IT OVER. BUT HE DO THINK SO IT'S FINE. BUT IF EVEN IF HE MOVED AN ENTRANCE ONE FOOT OVER, THEN HE WOULD STILL NEED A VARIANCE. IF IT STAYS IN THE EXACT FOOTPRINT, HE JUST CHANGES THE PAVEMENT TYPE. NO VARIANCE IS REQUIRED. THAT'S ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN THAT CASE? I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION ON THIS APPLICATION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU MR. MORRISON. CARRIED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU MR. MAN. THANK YOU. UM, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. MARCY? AYE. MR. RICKS AYE. MS. AMBA? AYE. MR. MAY AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN MO ALL GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK. OKAY. OUR NEXT UH, APPLICATION TO BE HEARD WILL BE, UH, JOHN CLARK 35 MAIN TRAIL SEEKING A BULK VARIANCE FOR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK, MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE TO CONSTRUCT AN ATTACHED DECK. MR. CLARK, BE SWORN IN PLEASE. SIR, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM AND TELL TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH TO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. JOHN CLARK GRIFFIN. JONC. YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, SIR. ALRIGHT. UH, DEFINITELY NOT AS PREPARED AS THE FIRST GUY EITHER , BUT, UH, EVERYBODY'S BAR PIE. SO , UH, PROPOSING TO DOING AN ATTACHED DECK ON THE BACK OF MY HOUSE. UM, THE, UH, DECK WILL BE MADE OF, UH, COMPOSITE MATERIALS. UH, LIGHTING WILL BE INSTALLED. UH, RECESS LIGHTING WILL BE INSTALLED UNDER THE SOFFIT. SO THERE'LL BE NO FLOOD LIGHT TYPE, UH, LIGHTING. UM, IT'LL BE UNCOVERED. UH, THE ONLY UNCOVERED WILL COME FROM THE S THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING. ANYTHING ADDITIONAL FROM THE, FROM THERE, UH, TWO SETS OF STEPS THAT WE INSTALL ON SIDES TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF THE DECK. UH, THE DECK WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY TREE REMOVAL AND THE AREA IS CURRENTLY GRASS COVERED. WE NO GRADING OR ANY CHANGES FOR THAT. UM, THAT'S IT. UM, HE DOES ALL THE COMMENTS. I I GOT THE LETTER FROM TAYLOR TWO DAYS AGO, SO I A LOT MORE TIME. UH, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD WAS THE, THE 18 FEET. SO, UH, MY HOUSE CURRENTLY DOESN'T MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT. UM, WHEN WE'RE BUILT IN SEVEN FOUR, SO SETBACK FOR THE DECK. UM, I'M LOOKING FOR TWO FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE PHOTOS, YOU'LL SEE THE FENCE, [01:30:01] THE NEIGHBOR'S FENCE BEHIND WAS INCORRECTLY INSTALLED BY THE OWNERS OF THAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL OWNERS OF THAT HOUSE. AND SO WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE 10 YEARS AGO, THE ORIGINAL OWNERS WERE STILL THERE. THAT FENCE WAS THERE. SO THEN THEY INSTALLED IT WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE. UM, AND THEN THEY MOVED A WEEK AFTER I MOVED IN. UM, THEY CLEARLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, WHERE THE FENCE WAS GOING. I DOUBT THE WAS TO CODE. I DOUBT IT WAS EVEN PERMIT LIKE THAT. SO I ASSUME WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, ALL THAT PROPERTY WAS MINE AND TREATING IT AS SUCH SENSE. AND THEN WHEN I WENT TO A BUILD A POOL AND PERMIT TO GO DOWN THIS PATH, I DID MY PAPERWORK AS AN ENGINEER AND DETERMINED THAT THE SURVEY DRAWING DOESN'T ALLOW TO PUT A POOL ONLY MEAN 20 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT'S WHEN I FIGURED THAT OUT NOT TOO LONG AGO. SO I SAID, OKAY, I, SO I CAN'T DO A POOL, DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR THAT. SO, BUT I AGREE. JUST DO THE DECK STUFF. SO YOUR BACKYARD IS ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN WHAT IT LOOKS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE YOU SEE THAT? YES. YEAH. YOU SEE THE PICTURE, THERE'S A LINE THAT'S ACTUALLY THE PROPER LINE. YEAH. OKAY. INTERESTING. SO, UM, LONG TERM, I, I'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO THE NEIGHBOR. I PROBABLY WILL ATTEMPT TO PURCHASE THAT. OKAY. AND THAT PARKING LOT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS, HE THOUGHT THAT WAS NOT, NEITHER ONE OF US HAD OBVIOUSLY WHERE HE PUT THE FENCE. THAT'S AN INTERESTING STORY. HARD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK THE DRAW, YOU GUYS HAVE PICTURES IN THE APPLICATION? YEAH. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A, A GROUND LEVEL DECK THAT YOU'RE DOING? YES. YEAH. IT WOULD BE, UM, LEAST NINE INCHES, NINE 11 INCHES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GO UP TO THE LEVEL. IT'S A RANCHER. NO, UM, NO BASEMENT, NO WALL. SO WHATEVER THAT LEVEL IS. WOULD YOU HAVE AN ABOVE GROUND LITTLE POOL THERE AT ONE POINT? THAT CIRCLE? YEAH, I, I TAKE IT UP, PUT IT DOWN. OKAY. AND THEN I, THE FENCE IS SHOWN THERE OR NOT, I JUST PUT THE FENCE UP. WE GOT DAMAGE, BUT I WORKED WITH MY NEIGHBOR FENCE ON PROPERTY, SO, AND FLORIDA PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SET RIGHT. SO, OKAY. SO I WORK WITH HIM, PUT TWO PERMITS OVER HIM, WALKING IN HOUSE, PUT A FENCE UP. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHY THE . MR. TAYLOR THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS TIGHT SETBACK? THE ONLY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DECK THAT IS ABOUT THIS FAR FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY LINE. AND WHILE THAT NEIGHBOR MAY OR MAY NOT SELL THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IF THEY DON'T, THE NEXT PERSON THAT MOVES IN MAY WANT TO RECONSTRUCT THAT FENCE AND USE THEIR ENTIRE REAR YARD. SO THAT DOES MAKE MAKE IT SOMEWHAT OF A DIFFICULT SITUATION. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT, THAT TWO FOOT STEP BACK MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO EVEN GET A LAWNMOWER OR A WHEELBARROW OR ANYTHING. ANYTHING VACUUM THERE FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT WAS WHY WE RAISED THAT AS A POTENTIAL ISSUE IN OUR REPORT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FLEXIBILITY TO PULL THAT BACK, EVEN ANOTHER FOOT OR SOMETHING AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE IN THERE. DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY TO COME BACK A FOOT OR SO AND MAYBE MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT WIDER RATHER THAN THAT UH, 17 OR 65 TO 16 INSTEAD OF SAYING THREE OR FOUR FEET OFF FOOT, IT'S EASIER TO GO 10 FEET IF YOU'RE BUYING LUMBER. 16 IS WHAT CAME TO MIND. YEAH. AND THEN MAYBE MAKE A LITTLE WIDER IF YOU WANT TO THAT SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE RATHER THAN BEING THAT TIGHT BECAUSE WE CAN'T OBJECT DOWN THE ROAD'S GONNA HAPPEN WAS WHERE WE WANTED THOSE THAT WENT FIRST SPOT OURSELVES. OKAY. SO THAT, BUT YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH 16 FOOT. I CAN THAT. ALRIGHT. STILL A NICE SIZED DECK. 16 FOOT . YEAH. SO THE ISSUE WE HAVE IN THE BACKYARD IS CASE YOU CAN TELL THE PROPERTY ON, THERE'S NOTHING, YOU CAN'T USE THAT PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. SO I CAN'T, AND ON BOTH SIDES OF MY HOUSES IS I VISTA. SOME HAVE A LOT OF TREES. MM-HMM . I DON'T WANT THE TREES DOWN, SO I DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING NEAR TO, SIR. I DON'T HAVE A LOT DIFFERENT, THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY. THAT'D BE NICE. ANY OTHER BOARD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU WANNA HAVE A SEAT? I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION, YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE. HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE. MOTION TO CLOSE. I WAS LOOKING AT, HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GONNA MAKE A COMMENT. COMMENT. NO, NO COMMENT. ALL I WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE A SECOND PLEASE. A TROOPER SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK UP, SIR. AND CAN I HAVE A MOTION FROM ONE OF OUR OUTSTANDING BOARD MEMBERS ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE? WE NOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECK AT 16 FEET APPROVING A, A STEPBACK OF FOUR OF FOUR FEET. FOUR FEET. FOUR FEET TO SIX. [01:35:01] THANK YOU MR. MEHAN. I'LL SECOND THAT. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. MR. RICKARDS, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. MARON? AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. AMBA? AYE. MR. MEHAN? AYE. VICE CHAIRMAN MOORE. AYE. THANK YOU. SAY CONGRATULATIONS. WHAT'S THAT? SAY? CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS WITH YOUR NEW DECK. UM, OKAY. SO THE NEXT APPLICATION I THINK WE WILL HAVE HAPPY TAILS. MEDFORD, LLC FIVE 60 STOKES ROAD SEEKING A USED VARIANCE TO ALLOW A PET GROOMING BUSINESS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IN THE IRONSTONE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER. YES. UH, GOOD EVENING. UH, PAUL . YES. I MEAN, IT'S RUNNING FOR, FOR, UH, TYLER MADISON AND, UH, HIS BUSINESS. HAPPY TAILS. OKAY, SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR USE VARIANCE. IT'S GOT NO, THERE'S NO BULK VARIANCES. IT IS STRICTLY JUST A USE VARIANCE AS MR. MADISON BOUGHT A PECK GROOMING BUSINESS, UH, ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. AND THE PECK ROOMING BUSINESS, UH, EXISTED ON STOKES ROAD IN A FREESTANDING BUILDING. SO, UH, BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES HE NEEDED TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION. UH, AND HE SECURED A LEASE IN THE IRONSTONE VILLAGE FOR, UH, A UNIT THERE. IT'S IN THE SAME DISTRICT AS WHERE THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS EXISTED, AND THAT ORIGINAL BUSINESS, UH, EXISTED THERE PROBABLY FOR A COUPLE DECADES IN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONE. SO HE, HE, HE WANTS TO MOVE IT OVER TO IRONSTONE VILLAGE. AND, AND THUS, UH, UH, IT THERE, BECAUSE THE, UH, PICK GROOMING WASN'T PER SE A LISTED USE UNDER THE COMMUNITY CO COMMERCIAL YES. WERE BEFORE YOU AS A, UH, AS A, UH, AS A USE VARIANCE. SO, UH, I, I HAVE, UH, UM, MS. TAYLOR'S LETTER AND THAT ASKED FOR, UH, SOME, HAS SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME TESTIMONY WERE PROVIDED. OKAY. AND I'LL, UH, BRING FOR, UH, MR. MR. MADISON, DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM AND TELL THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. TYLER MADISON. M-A-T-T-E-S-O-N-M-A-T-T-E-S-O-N. GOT IT. BACK TO YOU, COUNSEL. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, THE BUSINESS, UH, THAT YOU, YOU WANT TO BRING INTO? YEAH. UM, SO AS HE MENTIONED, LIGHT AS A BIG STAND OR EXISTING BUSINESS. AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, UH, ARE GONNA BE JUST GROOMING DOGS. UM, ACTUALLY MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE AND ONE OTHER PERSON WHO'S HERE IS GONNA BE THE, UH, MAIN GROOMERS. AND SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. OKAY. UM, UH, MS. TAYLOR'S, UH, LETTER ASK FOR, UH, SOME, UH, SOME DETAILS TO DO IT. SO, UH, UM, SO WE'RE GONNA REVIEW IS WHAT, WHERE ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? IT'LL BE EIGHT TO FIVE TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. OKAY. AND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES? UH, FOUR. OKAY. AND SHE ALSO ASKED HER, UH, WERE THERE GROOMING STATIONS? YEP. THERE WOULD BE THREE GROOMING STATIONS, FOUR EMPLOYEES. OKAY. UH, NUMBER OF CLIENTS DURING THE BUSIEST TIMES? UM, I MEAN, THE CLIENTS ARE DOGS AND WE COULD HAVE UP TO SIX OR SEVEN DOGS IN, UH, IN, UH, WITH THE SHOP AT ANY GIVEN POINT. OKAY. BUT WHEN, UM, WHEN, WHEN THEY TYPICALLY, UH, WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THEIR OWN OWNERS, HOW MANY THEY IT IS VERY FEW. UH, WE TRY NOT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE PLUS OUR RECEPTION AREAS GONNA BE RELATIVELY SMALL FOR, YOU KNOW, CON CONFLICT. SOMETIMES DOGS, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET ALONG. SO, UM, TWO TO THREE MAX, WE TRY TO SCHEDULE 'EM AS THAT. OKAY. AND IS THERE A LOADING AREA FOR SUPPLIES? YEAH, SO THERE'S A, AN INDUSTRIAL DOOR IN THE BACK THAT WE'LL JUST BRING ANYTHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, NOTHING MAJOR THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING CONSTANTLY. OKAY. AND AND WHAT ABOUT, UH, CIRCULATION? ACCESSIBILITY? YEAH, THERE'S NO MAJOR STEPS. SO, UH, THERE I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE IF, IF ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. AND IT'S A REC RELATIVELY OPEN AREA TO GET IN. UM, YEAH. OKAY. AND THE, UH, AS FAR AS THE SITE TRAFFIC AND THE ONSITE PARKING THAT'S PROVIDED WITH THE, UH, IN HONOR STONE VILLAGE, GOT PLENTY OF PARKING OUT FRONT THOUGH, IN CASE IT'S VERY GOOD, VERY, ANOTHER DOGS DROP, CORRECT. ? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THAT WOULD BE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE THAT, UH, UM, THE, UH, FREQUENCY AND TIMING OF DELIVERIES ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH. IF, IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE'LL PROBABLY PICK STUFF UP OURSELVES. OKAY. IS THERE A DOG WASTE COLLECTION [01:40:01] DISPOSAL? YEAH, SO, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY DOG TRAINING FACILITY YARD IN IRONSTONE VILLAGE AND SO THERE'S UH, AN EXISTING RELIEF AREA THAT'S, THAT'S MAINTAINED. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY DOG UH, WASTE STATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE UH, UH, YOUR UNIT? UH, NO, THIS ONE'S IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS DESIGNATED BY THE PROPERTY. OKAY. THE MANAGER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, IT'S AWAY FROM ALL OF THE OTHER STOREFRONTS, SO YEAH. OKAY. IS THERE ANY BOARDING AT THE FACILITY? NO, NO BOARDING. OKAY. UM, WHAT THE, UH, AND WHAT IT'S, UM, THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONE, UM, INDICATES THAT THERE ARE, UM, AND THIS IS POINTED OUT MRS. TAYLOR'S LETTER MM-HMM . UM, THAT THERE ARE, UM, UM, THAT THE USE DOES PERMIT, UH, PERSONAL SERVICE SHOPS DEALING DIRECTLY WITH CUSTOMERS. IT GOES ON THE LIST. 'EM LIKE, UH, BEAUTY SHOPS, BARBER SHOPS, CLOTHES CLEANING, UH, OR PRESSING SHOE REPAIR, DRESS MAKING, UH, RY, UH, SELF-SERVICE, LAUNDRY AND OTHER SIMILAR USES. SO WHILE THE PEC GROOMING ISN'T SPECIFICALLY LISTED, IT, IT IS KIND OF, I THINK UNDER THE FLAVOR OF THE, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONE TO BEGIN WITH. AND, UH, SO, UM, WILL THE, UH, WILL, WILL YOUR PROJECT, UH, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE? 'CAUSE THE, THE, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BUSINESS IS, IS PARTICULARLY SUITED FOR THAT? YES. OKAY. AND, UH, WILL, UH, YOUR USE NOT CREATE A SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE PUBLIC GOOD? NO. OKAY. AND, UH, WON'T HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL IMPAIRMENT TO THE INTENT, INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE ZONE PLAN? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY, YOU'RE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? AND YOU'RE JUST RELOCATING TO THIS? YEAH, WE'VE BEEN CLOSED, UM, FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT YEAH, WE, WE HAVE OUR CLIENTELE, WE BOUGHT ALL THE EQUIPMENT, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO BUILD A SPACE OUT AND MOVE IN. OKAY. YEAH, IT WAS A, IT WAS A, IT WAS LOCATED A FREESTANDING BUILDING, UH, ON STOKES ROAD. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH, I THINK NEXT TO THE ZINC. YEAH. NEXT TO THE BOWLING ALLEY. UM, DIRECTOR . MR. TAYLOR, ANY COMMENTS? UM, NOTHING JUST IN TERMS OF WILL EVERY DOG BE TAKEN OUTSIDE BEFORE IT'S GROOMED TO RELIEVE ITSELF OR HOW, HOW IS THAT SORT OF HANDLED? OR IS IT SORT OF GETTING NEEDED? I THINK IT'S IF NEEDED. UM, AND A A LOT OF TIMES THE OWNER WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S RELIEVED AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A RELIEF AREA, YOU KNOW, WILL HAVE SIGNAGE AND PROBABLY A LITTLE MAP THAT DRAWS WHERE THAT AREA IS AT 'CAUSE WE DON'T NEED THEM GOING IN ANY GRASP. BUT, YOU KNOW, BELT ARE GONNA AND THEN THAT'S ACTUALLY CLEANED UP AND DISPOSED OF EITHER BY THE OWNER AND IF IT'S NOT DONE BY THE OWNER, YOU WOULD AGREE TO YES. ENSURE PROVIDING THAT THAT IS YES, WE WILL BE PROVIDING, UM, RELIEF FACTS, YOU KNOW, AT BRANDON, OUR ENTRYWAY. SO FAMILY 'CAUSE OF THAT CONCENTRATION YEP. TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT JUST RUNNING OFF. RIGHT. AND THAT WAS ALL I HAD MR. ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. ANY BOARD QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SEE NONE. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEAT, I WILL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? YES SIR. COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME, BE SWORN IN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH TO HELP YOU? GOD, SIR. I'LL ME GOD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST FOR THE RECORD. PERRY PARKS. P-A-R-K-S. I LIVE AT 1 1 3 S***T ROAD. I'M, UH, OWNER OF THE, UH, DOG TRAINING CENTER. UM, THERE, UM, IT'S ALWAYS A BIG QUESTION, UH, HOW DOGS ARE GONNA AFFECT, UH, PEOPLE IN THE OTHER BUSINESS THERE. I COULD TELL YOU, I GUESS WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE MARCH OR APRIL SINCE IT WAS APPROVED AND UH, UM, IT'S BEEN FANTASTIC WITH THE DOGS AROUND. PEOPLE INVITE US INTO THE STORES WITH THE DOGS. WE ALSO SET UP, UM, YOU KNOW, DOG WASTE IS ALWAYS THE MAIN CONCERN FOR ANYBODY. ANYTIME THERE'S A DOG BUSINESS, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 14 WOODED ACRES THAT ARE SET BACK THAT IRONSTONE, UH, UH, OWNS BACK THERE. AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE FRONT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE, UH, WASTE STATION SET UP AND THE REGULARLY EMPTY TRIPLE BAG. UM, AND OUR DUMPSTERS ARE, UH, EMPTIED PRETTY REGULARLY, SO IT'S ALREADY SET UP. THE BAGS ARE ALREADY, UM, OUT THERE AND I THINK, UH, THIS IS, UH, WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR UH, IRONSTONE. IRONSTONE HAS REALLY PICKED UP OVER THE LAST, UH, SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS. IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE. I WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN TOWN HERE FOR 25 YEARS AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THERE'S AT LEAST SOME TIME IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS DYING, BUT THAT HAS GONE AWAY. YEAH. UM, [01:45:01] IT LOOKS FANTASTIC OUT THERE NOW. JUST NEED TO GET A PET STORE IN THERE. NOW NEXT TO YOU, . DO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY YOU HAVE SOME PERSONAL CHALLENGES? IF THAT'S CORRECT. I WANT TO WISH YOU GOOD LUCK WITH IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE. MOTION TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. YOU WANNA COME BACK UP? AND IF I CAN HAVE A BOARD MEMBER FORMULATE A MOTION FOR THIS APPLICATION AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU MS. AMBA. I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. MR. RICKARD. MAY HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MR. MORRISON? AYE. MR. RICKARDS? AYE. MS. AMBA? AYE. MR. MAY AYE. AND VICE-CHAIRMAN WALKER. AYE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR THANK YOU. WE YOU, IF YOU HAVE DOGS, WE YOU'LL COME AND, UM, SEE, I DO THANK YOU FOR THAT'S WHAT YOU WISH FOR. YOU WANNA SEE MY DOG? HE'S 150 POUNDS NOW. I STILL THINK FOR THE LAST APPLICATION 2024, WE SAVED THE BEST, WHICH IS TOUR BUILDERS LLC 2 0 7 EAST LAKE BOULEVARD, SEEKING BULK VARIS FOR THE FRONT SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM BUILDING AND LOCK COVERAGES TO CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY ADDITION AND A DECK TO THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. GENTLEMEN, I HAVE YOUR NAMES AND BE SWORN IN. ALL RIGHTY. WHO STARTED, PLEASE SWEAR OR AFFIRM TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING ABOUT THE CHANCE TO HELP YOU. GOD, DO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST STARTING WITH RIGHT TO LEFT. NICK GIDO. G-I-O-R-D-A-N-O. JEFF JACOBS. J-A-C-O-D-S. WALTER, LLT. YOU GUYS ARE AN LLC. AND ARE YOU A SINGLE MEMBER OR ALL THREE OF YOU GUYS? IT'S ME. JUST YOU. I'M THE APPLICANT. YOU'RE, BUT ARE YOU THE ONLY OWNER OF THE LLC OR ALL THREE OF YOU GUYS PARTNERS? I'M THE ONLY OWNER. I'M THE PRINCIPAL. ARE DO YOU OWN? AM I, AM I, THIS IS MY ONLY REASON WHY I'M ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION. ARE YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT THE, SO YOU OWN A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT? YES. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS. AS LONG AS IT'S SOLE MEMBER LLC, THEN YOU CAN PROVIDE THE TESTIMONY. BUT IF IT WAS NOT, THEN THEY WOULD NEED AN ATTORNEY. AN ATTORNEY HAVE TO BE, YEAH. SO TAKE IT AWAY. ATTORNEY'S NOT NATIVE WHAT'S SOMETHING? ATTORNEYS IS NOT NEEDED. IF IT'S A SOLE MEMBER, LLC, THE ATTORNEY IS NOT, BUT IF IT'S A MULTI-MEMBER, THEN THE ATTORNEY WOULD BE NEEDED. OKAY. OKAY. SO SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS, I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL LLC. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION. SO DID I, SO I WAS, THAT WAS A GREG MCGUCKIN INSIGHT TO ME. MM-HMM . THAT MAKES SENSE. IT DOES BECAUSE I TRUST GREG MCG . SO THAT'S MY SOURCE. HERE WE GO. OKAY. OKAY. UM, NICK JORDANO, I'M THE PRINCIPAL OF TARS BUILDERS, LLC, HEADQUARTERED HERE IN MEDFORD. I'M THE APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, MR. JACOBS. AND WE'RE SEEKING BULK VARIANCES FOR FRONT AND SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND BUILDING A LOT COVERAGES ON AN UNDERSIZED LOT IN THE G'S, UH, WHICH IS LAKE PARK. OKAY. AND GIVE US A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY AS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO HERE. OKAY. WE'RE DOING ADDITIONS ON AN EXISTING RESIDENCE. OKAY. AND, UH, WE'RE APPROACHING SOME SETBACKS AND SOME COVERAGE LIMITS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER BECAUSE I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE APPLICATION, SO I FIGURED WE WOULD ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW. OKAY. MR. TARA, I'M, WELL LET YOU GO FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT, UM, AND THEN MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MR. ALT GO THROUGH AND EXPLAIN THE ARCHITECTURE. OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN, UM, PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. OKAY. SO JUST BEFORE YOU BEGIN, JUST PROVIDE THE BOARD WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF YOUR EXPERTISE AND CREDENTIALS AS A REGISTERED ARCHITECT. REGISTERED ARCHITECT IN NEW JERSEY AND PENNSYLVANIA FOR THE FA [01:50:01] PAST 50 YEARS. YOU'VE TESTIFIED BEFORE, BOARDS BEFORE, UH, ABSOLUTELY. HERE IN SEPTEMBER. THE BOY IS THE BOARD WILLING TO ACCEPT HIS CREDENTIALS AS A REGISTERED ARCHITECT? YES, WE WILL. MR. JACOBS IS THE OWNER OF, UH, THE BUILDING AND DUE TO, UH, INCREASES IN THE FAMILY SIZE, HE NEEDS A BIGGER SPACE THAN THE SMALL ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT WAS ALWAYS ON THAT PROPERTY. UM, WE'RE EXPANDING THE FIRST FLOOR LIVING ROOM AND THE DEN IN THE BEDROOM, UH, FOR THE INCREASED FAMILY SIZE. AND WE'RE GONNA ADD A SECOND FLOOR FOR A MASTER BEDROOM SUITE WITH A, UH, UM, STUDIO SPACE, UH, ABOVE THE KITCHEN AREA. THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING, UH, SINGLE STORY RESIDENCE IS 2,154 SQUARE FEET. IT OCCUPIES 19% OF THE ORIGINAL 0.26 ACRE PROPERTY. AFTER THE IMPROVEMENT, THE BUILDING COVERAGE WILL BE 3005 SQUARE FEET WILL BE 26.5% OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH, UH, IS BY ORDINANCE REQUIRED TO BE 0.32. HOWEVER, IT'S A PREEXISTING PROPERTY OF THAT SIZE. THE BULK VARIS HAVE REQUESTED BECAUSE THE ZONING ORDINANCE MODIFIED THE SETBACKS OF PREVIOUS, UH, TIME IN, IN, IN HISTORY. UH, THE ORIGINAL SETBACKS OF 4.8 9.6 IN THE FRONT YARD OF 34.7, UH, WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE, ARE NOW NONCONFORMING DUE TO THE, UH, UH, PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. THESE VARIANCES WILL ALLOW MR. JACOBS TO HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR HIS, UM, LARGE SIZE, LARGER SIZE FAMILY. AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THERE'S NO, UH, DETRIMENT TO THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S NO DETRIMENT TO THE, UH, THE, UH, ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, UH, PUBLIC GOOD. AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP, MR. GENERAL. SURE. MR. ALL INDICATED THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, I'LL, I'LL CALL IT THE NORTHERN SIDE YARD. THE, THE TOP SIDE YARD ON THE PLAN EXISTS AT 4.8 FEET FROM THAT NORTHERN SIDE PROPERTY LINE. THAT IS AN, UH, AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING CONDITION. THE VARIANCE IS NECESSARY THAT HAS GONE FROM ESSENTIALLY A ONE STORY TO A TWO STORY, UM, STRUCTURE. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ENTIRELY, UH, INTERSECTION FOUR ABOVE THAT ENTIRE AREA? NO, NO, THE, THE, THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE RESIDENCE IS A GARAGE AREA. WE ARE NOT ADDING ABOVE THAT NORTHERN SIDE. SO YOU'RE EXTENDING, WE'RE EXTENDING, PARDON YOU ON THAT NORTH SIDE, YOU'RE EXTENDING BUILDING FURTHER TO THE REAR THAN IS WITHIN THE REQUIRED SIDE. YOU'RE EXTEND THAT CORRECT. AT THE, AT THE, AT THE RIGHT. THIS IS THE BUILDING EXTENSION FROM THIS POINT BACK. SO THEY'RE LENGTHENING THE BUILDING THE REAR WITHIN THE SETBACKS. THEY'RE MAINTAIN THE LOCK SETBACK YOU CAN SEE ON THE CLOCK PLAN, WHICH IS RIGHT ABOVE THEIR ZONING CHART, THE EXISTING PORCH RIGHT BELOW THAT DARKEST LIGHT. THIS IS WHERE THE BUILDING ENDS CURRENT, CORRECT? YES. THAT'S, THAT'S THE BACK WALL OF THE BUILDING? YES. THAT BUILDING IS BEING LENGTHENED BY 15 FEET OR SO? YES, 15 FEET. UM, AND ALL OF THAT BUILDING ADDITION IS WITHIN THAT REAR YARD SETBACK. IT DOES MAINTAIN THE CURRENT, UH, EXISTING SETBACK, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY A COVERED DECK THAT THEY ARE EXPANDING WITH THE BUILDING. AND THEN I GUESS IN THE, UH, YOU ARE PUTTING THE TWO STORY ADDITION IN SOUTHERN, SO [01:55:01] THAT 9.6 SQUARE FEET WE'RE STAYING, WE'RE STAYING LINED UP WITH THAT. BUT YOU'RE ADDING A SECOND FLOOR AND I THINK IT'S 10 FEET OUT BACK. SO ALL OF WHICH STAYS AWAY FROM THE LAKE BY THE REQUIRED SETBACK. UM, THE COLORS PROPOSED FOR THE HOME CAN BE LIKE TANISH BROWN AND NO FLOOD LIGHTS WILL BE PROPOSED. AND ARE THERE ANY TREES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED? AND IF ANY TREES DO NEED TO BE REMOVED, YOU WOULD AGREE TO OBTAIN A TREE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT PERMIT AS NECESSARY FROM THE TOWN. SURE. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. BOARD QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE, IF YOU GENTLEMEN WANNA TAKE A SEAT, I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, I ASSUME YOU'RE PART OF THE APPLICATION. I, MY OKAY. UM, IT'S MY FAULT. ALL CASE AND ALL CASE. SEE SEEING NONE. MOTION TO CLOSE. PUBLIC. MOTION TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. WANT TO COME BACK UP GENTLEMEN? AND WOULD SOMEONE APPEAR TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS APPLICATION? IT'S THE LAST ONE. SO DON'T EVERYBODY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LETTER FROM , BUT THE CONDITIONS THAT THE BOARD, SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT THE BOARD INCLINED THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE WON'T BE ANY INCREASE OR CHANGE IN DRAINAGE PATTERNS ON THE SITE THAT COMPLY FOR THE TRUE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT ORDINANCE. THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY FLOOD LIGHTS AND ANY, ANY LIGHTING WILL BE DOWN. UM, AND ALSO BE INDICATED THAT THE COLORS COLORS, RIGHT. DOWNTIME THINGS. OKAY. YEP. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, APPLICATION WITH THE AMENITIES THAT SCOTT HAD DISCUSSED. THANK YOU MR. RICKERS. SECOND. THANK YOU MR. MORRISON. APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE. MR. MARON? AYE. MR. RECORDS? AYE. MS. UMBA? AYE. MR. MAYOR AYE. AND VICE-CHAIRMAN BOOK A THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED, GENTLEMEN, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT AND YOUR ADDITION. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR ANY ADDITIONAL ACTION, BUT BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT THIS YEAR. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU AND I ALSO WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY, HEALTHY HOLIDAY, CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ALONG AGAIN NEXT YEAR. SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ANY ADJOURN. ALL IN FAVOR? I OPPOSED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.